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Conception

When's the best time to get pregnant? Use our interactive ovulation calculator to work out when you're most fertile and most likely to conceive.

TAKING CLOMID FOR THE FIRST TIME AND REALLY EXCITED AND SCARED!!!!

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sambrads · 03/01/2008 08:21

HELLO EVERYONE !!!!
I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO CONCIEVE FOR NEARLY A YEAR AND WITH NO LUCK AND AN UNDERACTIVE THYROID THE DOCTOR HAS PRESCRIBED ME WITH CLOMID!!!
I TOOK MY PERIOD ON 23RD DEC AND TOOK IT DAY 1 _ 5 I AM DUE TO GET MY BLOODS TAKEN ON 11TH THEN 23RD IS BIG TEST DAY!!!
I HAVE READ SO MANY SUCCESS STORIES BUT I CANT HELP FEELING NEGITIVE AS I DONT WANT TO GET LET DOWN !!!

HAS ANYONE GOT ANY SUPPORT OR ADVICE OR FEELING THE SAME??
HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE

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cam75 · 08/07/2008 10:56

FAO: This may help someone........

All about Cervical Fluid

Lesson Objectives:

Understand the role of cervical fluid in reproduction and fertility charting.

Learn how to identify and recognize what different cervical fluid types reveal about your fertility status.

Major Points in this Lesson:
Cervical fluid changes throughout the menstrual cycle and is a primary fertility sign.

Cervical fluid is the best sign for learning about the presence of estrogen in your bloodstream.

Cervical fluid is one of the best signs to tell you when you are most fertile before ovulation.

When estrogen is high and you are most fertile, cervical fluid is stretchy and resembles raw egg white.

When you are trying to conceive, it is recommended to have intercourse whenever you observe fertile quality cervical fluid.

Cervical fluid has similar properties to semen and serves similar functions: to support, nourish and transport sperm.

In a typical menstrual cycle, cervical fluid starts out scant and dry just after menstruation, becoming sticky or pasty, then creamy before the more fertile, watery and egg white fluid is observed when you are most fertile around ovulation. After ovulation, cervical fluid is again scant and dry.

Ovulation usually occurs around the last day that fertile quality cervical fluid is observed. This is often called the ?peak? day.

More?

Cervical fluid (CF) is also sometimes called ?cervical mucus? (CM). It refers to the fluid produced by the crypts of the cervix during the menstrual cycle. Changing throughout the menstrual cycle in response to ovarian hormones, cervical fluid is observable at the cervix or as it passes into the vagina.

The easiest and most effective way to know about the presence and quantity of estrogen in your bloodstream (and hence gain clues about your fertility status) is to examine your cervical fluid as it changes during your menstrual cycle. Observing these changes offers a primary fertility sign that can tell you a great deal about what is going on with your fertility.

When you are not fertile, at the beginning of your cycle and after ovulation, cervical fluid is dry and scant or sticky and cannot be penetrated by sperm. At these non-fertile times, the vagina is quite acidic and is even hostile to sperm. Cervical fluid at this time forms a barrier that plugs the cervical canal and prevents bacteria from entering the uterus.

As the presence of estrogen dramatically increases as ovulation approaches, this stimulates the production of large amounts of cervical fluid that is thin, stretchy, watery and alkaline- and receptive to sperm penetration. This most fertile fluid is best described as resembling raw egg white.

?Egg white? cervical fluid provides nourishment for sperm and allows them to move and thrive for the few days around ovulation when you are most fertile. When this kind of cervical fluid is present, sperm can be nourished and transported within your reproductive tract. Once in your reproductive tract in fertile cervical fluid, the sperm can wait for the egg to be released. This ?egg white? fluid is usually observed in the most fertile days just before ovulation, drying up quickly after ovulation.

Ovulation is most likely to occur on the last day that fertile quality cervical fluid is observed, though this can vary. This day is often called the ?peak? cervical fluid day, even though it may not be the day where the most fertile cervical fluid is observed. Cervical fluid observations, however, cannot tell you definitively that you have ovulated- just that estrogen is high, and ovulation is probably approaching.

Cervical fluid observations tell when you are most likely to be fertile and offer an excellent way to time baby-making intercourse. To know for sure that you have actually ovulated and are no longer fertile, you will need to chart your temperature as well and observe a thermal shift (temperature rise) on your chart.

The prime advantage of the cervical fluid sign is its ability to answer the question ?Am I now fertile?? which is at least as relevant as the question ?When did I ovulate?? It is not necessarily the same question.

Amazing Cervical Fluid

The main function of fertile cervical fluid in reproduction is similar to that of semen: as a medium for sperm nourishment and migration. Sperm survival and migration after intercourse is important because conception is rarely timed to exactly coincide with ovulation. Successful fertilization depends on the storage and constant release of sperm to the female upper reproductive tract at around ovulation time. Increased cervical fluid may also cause an increase in libido (sex drive) and produces lubrication to make intercourse more comfortable and pleasurable at this time.

Cervical Fluid supports sperm survival in the following ways:

They are admitted into the reproductive tract from the vaginal environment.

They are filtered, leaving only morphologically normal sperm to proceed.

They are nurtured and supported biochemically.

They are stored for later release so that there can be a constant supply to ensure that sperm release can be coordinated with ovulation so that conception can occur.

?Typical? Cervical Fluid Pattern

While your cervical fluid pattern may vary from cycle to cycle and it may vary from woman to woman, a typical cervical fluid pattern looks like this:

Immediately following menstruation there is usually a dry vaginal sensation and there is little or no cervical fluid.

After a few days of dryness, there is normally a cervical fluid that is best described as "sticky" or "pasty" but not wet. While this kind of cervical fluid is not conducive to sperm survival these days may be considered as "possibly fertile" if found before ovulation.

Following these "sticky" days, most women generally notice a cervical fluid that is best described as "creamy". This fluid may be white, yellow or beige in color and has the look and feel of lotion or cream. At this point the vagina may feel wet and this indicates possible increased fertility.

The most fertile cervical fluid now follows. This most fertile fluid looks and feels like raw egg white. It is slippery and may be stretched several inches between your fingers. It is usually clear and may be very watery. The vagina feels wet and lubricated. These days are considered most fertile. This is the fluid that is the most friendly and receptive to sperm. It looks a lot like semen and, like semen, can act as a transport for sperm.

After ovulation, fertile fluid dries up very quickly and the vagina remains more or less dry until the next cycle. Some women may notice small amounts of fertile-looking fluid after ovulation as the corpus luteum produces small amounts of estrogen, but you are not at all fertile after ovulation has been confirmed.

Cervical Fluid Type
Corresponding Fertility Status

Dry
Probably Not Fertile

Sticky
Probably Not Fertile

Creamy
Possibly Fertile

Watery
Fertile

Egg white
Most Fertile

Note: You may be fertile for up to a few days after observing fertile cervical fluid. FertilityFriend.com?s Fertility Analyzer recognizes the cervical fluid types and will alert you to your fertility status based on the day?s sign as well as previous days? signs if you may still be fertile.

LindsayS · 08/07/2008 21:36

Thanks Dungun Girl - have really struggled to find that information. Much appreciated.

lauralou1 · 08/07/2008 21:41

hi cam75

how are you sorry to hear your af came but you have still got one more month i am keeping everything crossed for you always

i had a really sharpe pain over the weekend and discharge phoned the fertility nurse and she said it is not ov but i am also not sure they care how is work

dungngirl

i will let you no all the information about are doctor in turkey spoke to family over there today and they said we should go asap but going to finish the clomid first you never no it might work how are thing s for you are you ok and have you had any luck with your doctor yet ?

baby dust to u all

nandos · 08/07/2008 22:51

hi everyone..
dungungirl, u r so patient ! waiting all this time ..
well good luck to you and everyone here and i will update you abt me soon..am on other threads as well if u wanna chat there

cam75 · 09/07/2008 08:38

lauralou,
af hasn't arrived sorry if i have said that b4. I am currently on cycle 2 and have about 4 more if nothing. I am being focus and not negative it will take time that's all.
Being back at work is a blessing really as i am busy and not thinking about things so much. The first month was rough. My partner is going away soon so i will have to stop until he returns.
How are you my darling?

DungunGirl · 15/07/2008 08:46

Hello...

been rather silent on here...
How is everyone?

xserialshopper · 15/07/2008 09:41

Hi DungunGirl --- I'll talk to ya I keep an eye on this thread just to see how you're doing So how are you doing? What's been happening? Have you had a nice peaceful rest?

I've finished my second round of Clomid and am waiting to see if af turns up on Sunday. I'm 41 and have been trying for about 5 years now, so af has more of a chance of turning up than not The 2ww wait isn't soo bad for me cos I've gotten used to it!!!

Update me

Love X

lauralou1 · 15/07/2008 10:21

hi dungungirl

how are you ?

am good just started taking my provera again today so af should come in about 10 days then i am on my second dose of clomid but they are putting me on 100mg wasnt sure of the dosage as had bad side effects with 50 mg

nurse said try taking it late evening then sypmtoms will be less by sleeing through it hopefully i will ov with 100mg

so what have you been upto ?

take care love lauralou1

DungunGirl · 15/07/2008 11:14

xserialshopper

I am doing ok thanks.

I am continuing with my weight loss programme (still driven by myself - no help from anyone! ).

I am really happy today actually, as I have promised myself a nice summer dress and the one that I have been wanting for ages was in the monsoon half price sale. So I got it!!!

Best thing is as well, is that I chanced trying a size 16 and it fit perfectly! Hooray! Made my day!

interesting how 2 stone lighter I am only 1 dress size smaller! But hey! I think it won;t take too much to fit into a size 14...my size 16 skirt is already a little lose around the waist!

I continue to fight the battle of trying to get the NHS to assist me with my subfertility. I was discharged from the subfertility unit about a month ago now and have been in limbo since. I have tried to get my GP to refer me to the PCOS clinic/endo unit but she refused as she does not agree with the use of metformin.

So as usual....up against a wall.

I am seing another GP next week to try and talk him into referring me there.

So you are on clomid then! Good luck. Many people get pregnant on the 3rd dose. Sooo fingers crossed!

lauralou1 · 15/07/2008 11:43

hi cam75 how are you havent from you in ages hosw is it going ?

cam75 · 15/07/2008 12:01

hello all,

help me please inspiration needed. Af came today(sad) just thinking if i should continue with it????
on the upside i am ovualting as test's show that i am now since i have started the treatment i suppose it is good news.
On the other hand i am not sure what to feel? my boobs are sore and i was really tired. I have at least 4 more cycles to go so maybe one of them???
Sorry to be on a downer.
Lauralou how are you doing? dungungirl?
regards to everyone else.

cam75 · 15/07/2008 12:04

lauralou i am fine,
i came on here the other day and no one was around. I went on another thread on this site and they were horrid.
How are you?

DungunGirl · 15/07/2008 15:33

cam75 and lauralou

I am fine thanks. Sorry to hear that blasted AF arrived...it is so heartbreaking isn't it !

Weird to think that before I wanted kids, a slightly delayed AF and I was panicking like hell!!! And now all I want is for AF not to turn up! Madness!

Wow...so they are putting you up to 100mg then Lauralou? Hopefully it will be the last kick your ovaries need and within another couple of months there might be good news! I'll keep my fingers crossed!

lauralou1 · 16/07/2008 18:23

hi cam75 dungungirl

how are you both ?

i had the dietican today she has put me on the low gi diet seems really good is that what you were on dungungirl ?

cam sorry to hear about ur af coming i have had to take provera again to bring one on as i never ov on the 50mg this month fingers crossed it works this month ........

how are you feeling ?
how many months has your doctorgave you of clomid ?

DungunGirl · 17/07/2008 08:49

lauralou

YUP! That is right. I have been on the low GI diet.
I really love it. It is so much easier to stick to.

In fact, I am going to just keep eating low GI for the rest of my life!

I am allowed the foods that all other diets told me to cut out - just have to chose the lowest gi option! So it is fantastic!

I have a weakness for rice , so the fact I can have it just as long as it is basmati or brown long grain is excellent!

Good luck with it!

sars87 · 20/07/2008 10:38

hi all, been looking for information and support about clomid so was nice to read this and know am not alone. Due to start my first course tonight and really nervous. x

lauralou1 · 21/07/2008 13:51

hi cam75 dungungirl

how are you both ?

it has been very quite on here lately

hope you are allgood

love lauralou
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

cam75 · 22/07/2008 10:58

laura lou,

it's like a ghost town on here lately??
I am fine just finished cycle 3 of clomid!!!!
How are you?

lauralou1 · 22/07/2008 12:59

hi cam

i no what u mean WERE IS EVERYONE

i am ok just waiting for af to come then i can start 1oomg second dose you are on you 3rd cousre already it is going really fast yours isnt it mine seems like it is takin ages ......

how is everything anyway are you and your partner coping ok

how is work i am still off not looking forward to the side effects of 100mg

how come your doctor has given you clomid for 6 months my consultant said i can only have for 3 months as you are only allowed it 12 months in any life time and might need it to concieve more children what has your consultant said ?

take care lots of baby dust to you

cam75 · 22/07/2008 13:20

I am not sure why, i think they should off done it earlier on(angry)

Things are goo i really thought that i was pg but it's that af playing with me. I can't believe that it has gone so fast myself it is unbelievable.
My partner is good he is understanding and i feel blessed to have him. He is going away next month for 3 wks so if i am not pg b4 then it will have to wait till he comes back for me to start the treatment again.
I was feeling down b4 but i have turned it around and i am more positive and focus now.
I am ov now which is good so it's just a matter of time b4 the swimmers meet my egg
How are your side effects? i just get the hot flushes and i had some cramps but it has passed now.....

DungunGirl · 22/07/2008 13:38

hey lauralou and cam75

I know what you mean....we can;t be the last ones can we!

Well....tried to insist on referel to the PCOS clinic and was turned down again. This time the GP said that I should be patient and wait to be re=referred to the fertility unit in September. DARRRNNNNNNN!!!!!!

I think if this month is another babyless month, next month will be HELLO to self administered Clomid!

I will you guys advice ok!

lauralou1 · 22/07/2008 13:43

dungungirl

if you are going to take them yourself be careful ok and if you need to no anything just ask

i dont blame you really as your gp and consultant sound s**t it must be doing your head in take care lots of baby dust to you

cam75 · 22/07/2008 14:13

dungungirl,
honey what the * is going on? Please honey do not get dishearted by this keep on going.
They really don't have a clue whjat they are dealing with do they? there is no empathy with women in our condition?(angry)
how are you other wise?

Pinkali37 · 22/07/2008 14:41

Dungungirl, hi there, wow you have been very restained with the clomid.

Ok so here i go and will probably be shot down by someone for saying this BUT......

DUNGUNGIRL - Get those tablets down your neck!!!! BY reason for saying this is, that the giving of clomid and the care provided whilst on it is somewhat discretionary and totally different depending on the area of the country you live. For example, I was told to go on them by consultant, GP prescribed and other than a day 21 blood test (WHICH ONLY lets you know if you have ovulated) there was no monitoring. You don't even need the blood test!! If I were you, take 50mg (NOT 25mg which I think i remember a fertility nurse telling you to start with, as this will be a waste and 25mg really will not do anything) start with 50mg which is still a relatively low dose. Take days 2-6. Abstain days 10 to eve of day 12 (remembering it is easier to get pregnant if you 'do it' just before ovulation than afterwards) then give DH the eye (and a little bit more) from eve of day 12 to 17 and beyond and see how you go. It may take a couple of months HOWEVER by then you may need to or may not need to go to fertility clinic. Just do and don't be scared by all the stories you hear. Just be aware of severe pain, fever and sickness!!! x

Pinkali37 · 22/07/2008 14:42

oops that was supposed to be "Restrained" and "My"

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