The 37th Just Shaggers are on their way! Watch out for accidental erections and bruising injections, polish your perfect ovaries, we're climbing a mountain and digging deeply to get our BFPs!

[honeysucklejasmine]

Ladies, Fred title says it all; we are the ones who shag as much as our men can cope with in order to get upduffed without the stress of scientific whatnots!

Fred rules (copied and adapted from previous Fred)

1. Thou shalt shag as much as humanly possible in order to get upduffed.
2. Thou shalt not partake of OPKs, temping, or charting.
3. Thou shalt keep symptom spotting to a minimum.
4. Thou shalt share with your fredmates where needed.

JSing lingo

ERTD = Evil Red Tide of Dooooooommmmmmm. Or AF to most others. Also know as 'the witch', 'bitch witch' and 'that one with the red shiny convertible'

Viroid = This is you, dear poster. This is from the first JS thread when someone tried to type 'ladies' and it autocorrected to 'Viroids' - so there you go!

Pant snot = Egg white cervical mucus.

Doing a kitten = Getting upduffed soon after joining (warning: may induce envy in other posters).

POAS = Pee On A Stick (of the pregnancy detecting kind, not from a tree). Also known as PIAR (Pee In A Ramekin - cos we're posh birds innit). Or PIATLH (Tea light holder) PIAWG (Wine glass) or anything else you care to pee in! PONF = Pee on Nigel Farage. Self explanatory, who wouldn't?

ROC - Receptacle of Choice - what one chooses to use for the task of POAS. Option decorations include photographs of political leaders.

JIAC = Jizz in a Cup. Preferable to jizz on the carpet or jizz in the eye. This one's for the lucky men in our lives.

Shagging like <strong>something</strong> = JSing like a teenage nymphomaniac.

Giving a hooya = Giving a much needed slap to a fellow poster in danger of slipping into ttc obsession. Warning - this may happen to you if you start trying to POAS at 5dpo. PUT. THE. PISSY. STICK. DOWN. IT'S TOO EARLY!

Contraband = Of COURSE none of us EVER partake of any silly OPKs or temp charting. They are Contraband.

Icing = ovulating. Another autocorrect development!

Getting your Cape on = planning some serious pouncing on DH/DP

TWOT - Two Weeks of Torture. AKA Schroedingering!
TWPU - Two Week Piss Up!

Keeping your gingers = fingers crossed, yet another autocorrect development! Shortened to 'gx'

Doing A lemon = Testing WAAAAAAAY to early!

The link to Part 36 is <a class="break-all" href="http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/2263704-O-Come-all-ye-Viroids-joyful-and-triumphant-Deck-the-halls-with-Contraband-All-I-want-for-Christmas-is-a-BFP-Just-Shag-all-the-way-no36" target="_blank">here</a>

The current Grads Fred is <a class="break-all" href="http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/a2272951-The-JS-Grads-turn-19-Were-cooking-and-popping-out-our-JSing-babies-with-style-co-ordinated-changing-bags-and-a-healthy-dose-of-humour" target="_blank">here</a>

The rather nobbish article in which we became a little bit notorious is <a class="break-all" href="http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/the-dark-side-of-mumsnet-my-shocking-tour-of-the-websites-nether-regions-8905055.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>

We are the dark side of MN. Welcome

Hmm sounds odd pooch. I can't think of any reason for them changing. Might be worth going for a check up

Poochie unless it starts properly tomorrow, I'd be booking an appointment. I am tempted myself as they are much shorter all round now. Used to get four days heavy bleeding, now get three days medium and some spotting.

Jelly high five POAS buddies again!

pooch forgive my shite memory but have you suffered mc recently? I know they can mess up your cycle.

Also, if you've swapped to pg vits, particularly pregnacare, they sometimes have this effect. Personally I think epo and b6 make my periods a bit lighter. Probably imagination/coincidence.

Also, I had random light flow with lots of ewcm in it 2 cycles ago. Back to more like normal now though...

I may get flamed for this but if not maybe poas? We've been through this with chat and wiggly and I don't for one second want to get your hopes up, but it might help to put your mind at rest?

A gp app wouldn't hurt. They'll prob do bloods, just make sure you tell them you've been ttc for over a year sneaky if they haven't been in charge of a prescription obvs.

Evening ladies

Just checking in hope everyone is having a nice start to their weekend we're currently getting snow.....so hoping this turns into shag fest

Quick question met a friend earlier who is upduffed and has a lovely bump to show for it and shock horror I kept eyeballing it with feelings of total envy anyone else ever experienced this? Had to have a word with myself as in trying my hardest not to become a total neurotic psycho especially after only one month of proper trying I have a cheek to be feeling this way

Defo an excuse to break dry January me thinks!

That's your hormones spicy. Be nice in RL but seethe in here!

pooch I'd heard vitamins can cock everything up so I've switched from pregnacare to folic acid.

that's interesting re vits. yes I was sporadically taking them but have been more consistent recently! may try just frolic for this cycle.

no mc tink so am really thinking the vits, trying not to think it's anything bad. I know af on bcp isn't "real" as such but even on cerazette that stops many ladies af mine were heavier than at the moment :-/

I have some ic's so may poas in the am just to close that chapter off. I'd be ok with a bfn as dealt with this cycles disappointment on weds so don't worry about getting my hopes up.

thank you for everyone's replies.

you are definitely not alone spicy I've been like that for years! this is the place to vent!

jelly I am indeed proud of your 2day streak! re monitor, I used to press and hold m button to move days on. had to do it at time I wanted to set for poas each day though. think you've got acbfm not normal cbfm like me though? have a quick google. you should have up to cd5 to change it. if it doesn't ask for a stick on cd6 don't worry, it can ask between cd6 and 9 for first one.

hi rhi sorry for bfn but fx you'll get a bfp soon!

pooch I'd get checked, and also lie about time ttc if you can. you might be able to get a day21 test out of them, and if so make sure they do amh and rubella too

bat if you take it at different times you'll have a jagged chart and probably won't ve able to see the thermal shift. can you set s vibrate only alarm on your phone and put under your pillow? are u using ff?

thanks lil I've just booked an appointment for Tuesday. is amh the egg quantity one? what would they be testing for the rubella for? I know rubella virus is dangerous in pregnancy, didn't realise there was a test in relation to fertility. sorry know I'm being ignorant am genuinely interested. it's all a learning curve!

thank you for the tips though, will don my best fibbing face :-)

Sorry for delay sunshine, was a full day traveling. I've been to Malaysia for work. Pleased to be home now!

7 jelly?! That's just greedy! I have a cousin like that though, dread her announcing another one. Get yourself a treat to help though - announcements are always hard.

Chuck them lil. They are probably fine but if you did it would you trust the result anyway or think 'they are out of date, what do they know?'. If so, chuck! If not, give them a crack next month!

Look forward to checking back for some POAS action later!

Definitely worth wasting a cheapie - it would appear I bleed regularly in early pregnancy, I have even miscarried before realising I was pregnant such is the flow. Thought this current one was a goner too.

I would imagine the rubella is tested for to ensure you're immune. You can't have the jab in pregnancy and it would be criminal to go to all the trouble of gettng upduffed and then catch rubella, possibly ruining everything.

So I POAS.

Do you see what me and DH see? We are bleary eyed as it was early in the morning. Don't quite trust it, today is day 28 of my 27 or 28 day cycle. We'll see what happens but I believe I may have had my last gin for a while...

Holy shit stoat that's a MFBFP!!! Congrats!!!!!! Well done you!

Also broke my two day temping streak. Cat woke me up at 6:00am today, I got up and kicked her out the room then realised I hadn't temped. Fuck.

I'll see if I can move the monitor on a day Lil but I'm not fussed if I can't!

That's a beaut stoat! Congrats!

And it's asking for sticks on day 6 again, I guess because I didn't get my peak!

Stoaty that's amazing! You have been well and truly upduffed, congratulations!

stoaty you beauty! Good on you!!!! Fucking yes!! I'm feeling this lucky Fred

It's very surreal. DH back to sleep, me just . Was expecting it to take 6 months at least. The daily mail said I was too old. Don't believe it yet, will buy more tests later. I haven't pissed on enough. Thank you for your kind words, i know it's madly unfair of me to maybe be up duffed already.

That's annoying about the temping jelly

Well done stoat Huge congratulations!! You must be over the moon

stoaty dh back to bloody sleep?!? What are they like. Can you remind me of your stats pet.

I'm 34, no DC, we thought we were trying last month but it was the wrong time so this month used Ovia and here I am . Used a bit of bog standard lube a couple of times so thought it was a no goer.

I wonder if this is why my back has been so bad.

Congratulations stoat that's a lovely line!

country where are you from? I think you must be near me geographically

stoat congratulations you little beauty! Well done! That's lovely news.

I will never be upduffed because Mr G is a ball sack there was no shagging chez gaggia last night. What a waste of an egg.

gaggia I think I've just thrown you with my use of pet . Im a West Country girl. Born and bred bumpkin!

gaggia LTB.