Whether icing, twotting, or in need of a dip in the pity paddling pool, come stroke the friendly orange cave unicorn with us. (Chocolate pretzels are on the house). It's JUST SHAGGING THREAD 17!

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Ladies, Fred title says it all; we are the ones who shag as much as our men can cope with in order to get upduffed without the stress of scientific whatnots!

Fred rules (copied from previous Fred)

1. Thou shalt shag as much as humanly possible in order to get upduffed.
2. Thou shalt not partake of OPKs, temping, or charting.
3. Thou shalt keep symptom spotting to a minimum.
4. Thou shalt share and with your fredmates where needed.

JSing lingo;

ERTD = Evil Red Tide of Dooooooommmmmmm. Or AF to most others.

Pant snot = Egg white cervical mucus.

Doing a kitten = Getting upduffed soon after joining (warning: may induce in other posters).

Viroid = This is you, dear poster. This is from the first JS thread when someone tried to type 'ladies' and it autocorrected to 'Viroids' - so there you go!

POAS = Pee On A Stick (of the pregnancy detecting kind, not from a tree). Also known as PIAR (Pee In A Ramekin - cos we're posh birds innit). Or PIATLH (Tea light holder) PIAWG (Wine glass) or anything else you care to pee in!

Shagging like something = JSing like a teenage nymphomaniac.

Giving a hooya = Giving a much needed slap to a fellow poster in danger of slipping into ttc obsession.

Contraband = Of COURSE none of us EVER partake of any silly OPKs or temp charting. They are Contraband.

The link to Part 16 is here

The link to the latest grads thread is here

Happy shagging shaggers!

Fi- don't be silly! Just because I've got ishoos it doesn't mean that it's any the less upsetting in your world. I mean, I could say well I shouldn't feel angry or upset because I know someone who had a hysterectomy at 29 for cancer, but we feel the way we feel. I don't ever get annoyed at other people being upset as it's your life and your feelings so please don't worry. hope the Doritos did the trick and you're feeling a bit better. I'm sure it will happen for you. It's hard to be patient I know, but don't lose heart.

Well we have definitely dtd at the right time. Please little Super Mario Swimmer do your job! This feels like the last chance saloon for me as next month I have to have a HSG and then the ball will be rolling towards assisted conception I guess. I have honestly never seen more signs of my own fertility as I have this month. I'm so willing it to happen. There are millions of sperm released and it only takes one so there must be a chance right? Come on Mario!

I'm giving Mario extra ???! come on little plumber, jump up the ladder!!

(I would utterly love it if you had a boy and called him Mario or middle name at least! )

Can't guarantee that I'm afraid Zing as went to school with a Mario and the name gives me the shivers a bit! probably just shot my chances to shit saying that, if I was a superstitious person, which of vourse, I'm not

Willing with all my might that there'll be a bear cub soon!

Nausea, Minion?

I dreamt I got pulled over by the police for reckless driving while eating a millionaire's shortbread at the wheel. Very specific. They let me off with a caution. I woke up feeling very relieved. What's that all about then? I've never been pulled over or anything like that. Anyone like interpreting dreams here and got any ideas?

Thanks for the cheer leading; I might join you!

Gah - hadn't finished! Pom poms>

Yeah I seem to vomit every day before the arrival of ERTD, which is always a right laugh...

Yes, I'm definitely up for cheerleading, that would fulfill a lifelong ambition for me actually!

oh poor minion, that sounds horrible.

Bear Amazing dream! Any of our fellow viroids any good at dream analysis? I dreamt last week 3yo neice came to stay with us and I let her out of my sight for a mo and she shaved her head, SIL went MAD and made me shave my head too. Told DH when I woke up and he said he doesn't want to speculate about what that says about my relationship with SIL (DH's brothers wife), which is a bit strained at the best of times!

Cripes Minion - that's horrible. Have you seen the doctor about it?

Essie - I agree with your DH. That's the sort of dream I would have too!

Do you guys get weird dreams in general sort of PMS time? I always seem to get nightmares :/

Not sure Fi - never really considered it, but I do get cheese dreams I always have nightmares or weird dreams after eating cheese too late in the day. I used to work for a Professor of Pharmaceutics and he showed me studies that had been done on this and it is a real thing. He wasn't pulling my leg either. He didn't have time for that!

My app has a notes section and there seems to be a pattern of PMS nightmares.... Though I need eat alot of cheese and crusty bread last night.... Maybe I do every PMS time? Hmmm

My weird dreams always appear after a period of stress, so I don't dream when I am stressing about something, but when the stress is over and I'm relieved, then my imagination goes nuts!

I wonder what it is in cheese that causes that?

I eat cheese before bed all the time, never causes dreams or nightmares. I lurve cheeeesseee! Essie I'd hide all scissors/razors next time u are with sil, just in case!

well I have been feeling pretty crappy the last couple of days. feeling tired and have a mouthful if ulcers. not 1 not 2, about 6 of the buggers.

plus I keep needing a wee. no not a symptom. its zings fault

bear when can we find out if Mario reached the next level? du du du du, d d d d du de du de do to Mario theme music in case that wasn't obvious

Oh I'm still icing Lil so there will be a twot after this although probably not quite two weeks, more like eleven days which is a bit easier to cope with.

I think mouth ulcers are a sign of Vitamin B6 deficiency Lil. DH gets them loads. He takes multi-vits anyway, but he also take L-lycene which I believe is an amino acid and it works wonders. I take it for cold sores too which I get all the time in the winter. Zovirax and such ike doesn't work on me, but lycene does.

Thanks bear. not heard if lycene...off to Dr goofle I go! I've heard the b6 thing too but I don't think its that. I eat a lot of green veg and I've been taking conception bits for months. I think some people are just prone to gauging there mouth with the toothbrush them. I did read once that its thought to occur a lot in women in early 20's. at 28 I was hoping to have grown out of it by now!

I don't find there's a pattern but every now and then I dream DH is cheating on me, which I know would never happen, but I wake up so annoyed at him! The last time, it was with my best friend and I really struggled to talk to her, how ridiculous!

I have a question... When I was using the OPKs, they were showing I was icing on day 18/19 in a 28 day cycle- surely that's too late in the cycle to ever get pg?

Not that I know this month if I'm icing (I'd like to say its cos I'm being strong but actually I've just run out of opk sticks!) but we've been JSing as much as possible without it being a chore!

I think that's on the low side for literal phase broody but not impossible. I think ppl have mentioned on here taking b vits can help lengthen this. im sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong

b6 can lengthen luteul phase broody. I think the normal range is 10-16days though. last month is ov'd around cd18.

today is cd 16 and I think I might be ov right now! wish dp would hurry up and get home from work, bet he'll be too tired to dtd when he gets home as well.

Apparently 10 days is fine for literal phase Trood. People on here have conceived with that. Strange dreams too. That's a tough one Trood. Mine are usually about dragons and odd stuff so I was a bit surprised that this one was about real life.

Lil - the other bit of useless crap information I found out about this is that if you use toothpastes with bicarbonate of soda in like Arm and Hammer for example that can give you ulcers. That came from a dentist via DH's MIL.

I have to say one of the scariest dreams I had was when I was 8 m pg with one of mine.

I had a dream that he was born as a 2 year old, with wild hair, dressed in green dungarees and orange shirt and the first time I saw him he was sitting in a pushchair yelling. and he was so ugly and freaky I told DH I don't really want him, then I started crying...

I woke up sobbing so hysterically DH woke up and got quite worried coz I couldn't stop crying and I couldn't talk either!

(disclaimer: our kids are beautiful and look nothing like that monster toddler! )

not heard the bicarb one bear but my dentist told me to try a toothpaste without sodium lauryl sulphate in. I'm yet to remember to look for one!

zing that's a v funny bad dream!