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Common racist comments you hear in 2023?

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SleepDreamThinkHuge · 28/04/2023 06:48

Compared to 30 years ago, how is racism different today?

For me, racism terms such as the n word p word are less used than they were 30 years ago. However, people have looked at other avenues. See comments below.

  1. "You have a chip over your shoulder" every time someone mentions racism or their lived experience it goes straight to denial mode. You are blamed for your lived experiences and told to get over it and how UK is not racist.

  2. "The UK abolished slavery. slavery was a long time ago." Every time someone tries to put forward a view of reparations of people who are still suffering from the effects of slavery they are shut down. "that was a long time ago we have changed and evolved."

  3. "I feel like a foreigner in my own country." Which is probably one of the most stupid statements considering that over 80 percent of the population is white. I always answer if you feel like a foreigner how do minorities feel?

  4. "name the racists" commonly said for Megan Markle that she should name the racists she claimed in the Royal family. But lets be honest if you did that the other person in whatever circumstance would just deny it and ultimately you will not be believed and be called someone who plays the race card and tarnishing other people's careers.

  5. "Why do black people have their own spaces if white people had it we would be accused of racism" This is commonly said by the same people who are not as vocal when other groups have their own space e.g. women, LGBT groups etc.. It just seems like whenever black people have their own space people have to put them down. Take Ngozi Fulani the media made it seem she was the bad person people argued why her charity helps black people suffering from domestic abuse. Sad how she was forced out Sistah Space due to the abuse she faced but the media never mention that and the racism she had to face.

  6. "Racism exists in all communities" this is another common one used and is a whataboutery technique. We have seen this with people like Kanye, KSI recently but what people forget there was a lot of criticism from the black community with their actions. So to suggest the black community or any other community does not do anything about racism is for the birds.

  7. "My best friend is black" This is something you would hear from the EDL or Britain First. But you would be surprised how often you hear this by a lot of people. Just because your friend or relative is black, Muslim, Asian etc does not mean you cannot be racist. Even if you are a white mother and your child is mixed race does not mean you cannot be racist. It is baffling how a lot of people seem to forget this and think that my saying I cannot be racist because of this automatically means they cannot.

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Socrateswasrightaboutvoting · 02/07/2023 22:16

Socrateswasrightaboutvoting · 29/06/2023 19:19

You could not script it could you. A few choice words were muttered whilst I was watching that, I can tell you. I actually think the saboteur was worse than the teacher, and she was vile. She put her privilege above the experience and trauma of every black or brown person in the room. I hope there is a special place in hell for her. Did you not feel empathy with the teacher for the discrimination she and her husband had faced?...

I spent a lot of time talking through contributions different ethnic groups have made to society and why we have 'selective' history in history books. Surely if Scientists can downgrade Pluto to a dwarf planet based on facts, Historians can write/provide more accurate historically accurate books and resources.

Socrateswasrightaboutvoting · 02/07/2023 22:17

LadyKenya · 30/06/2023 14:06

No doubt the teacher went into school with the exact, same deplorable attitude that she displayed in the programme@Socrateswasrightaboutvoting . After all she had naff all to learn, as she seemed to suggest. Honestly it is really too much. This is why black people need to teach their children about the richness of black culture, and their history, because too many black children will be taught by people like her in the education system. Leave it to the education system, and black, and brown children will be leaving school without a shred of black pride, and no knowledge of their forebears history.

I spent a lot of time talking through contributions different ethnic groups have made to society and why we have 'selective' history in history books. Surely if Scientists can downgrade Pluto to a dwarf planet based on facts, Historians can write/provide more accurate historically accurate books and resources.

Socrateswasrightaboutvoting · 02/07/2023 22:27

LadyKenya · 02/07/2023 10:48

I just wanted to leave the link below, following on from the Windrush conversation on here. Mr Vanley is included in an exhibition at the V&A South Kensington, which I hope to visit soon. I have read the previous comments, and I am fast at the point where I am reaching my fill of MN. The unfettered racism that is allowed to go on in other threads. I am sick of having to see, and in turn report racist posts. The takeover of the word, woke sickens me as well, as pp have pointed out too. Yet it has happened, and it has been allowed to be turned into a word that is subject to sneering contempt. Objection achieved for the racists. Anyway....

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2021/aug/12/photographer-vanley-burke-immortalised-black-britain-interview

Great read. Thank you.

LadyKenya · 03/07/2023 09:05

I spent a lot of time talking through contributions different ethnic groups have made to society and why we have 'selective' history in history books. Surely if Scientists can downgrade Pluto to a dwarf planet based on facts, Historians can write/provide more accurate historically accurate books and resources.

I agree@Socrateswasrightaboutvoting . But there has to be the will to do as such. Take the education system for example. There will always be pushback when a change is suggested. Sometimes from people you would expect to know better🙄.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/20/teaching-white-privilege-is-a-fact-breaks-the-law-minister-says

Teaching white privilege as uncontested fact is illegal, minister says

Kemi Badenoch tells Commons debate on Black History Month that schools must offer opposing views

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/20/teaching-white-privilege-is-a-fact-breaks-the-law-minister-says

HadalyEve · 03/07/2023 12:16

Very admirable @Socrateswasrightaboutvoting your patience on the FWR racism thread. I see you and other posters have faced a toxic mess of hostility and personal attacks.

Socrateswasrightaboutvoting · 03/07/2023 20:31

LadyKenya · 03/07/2023 09:05

I spent a lot of time talking through contributions different ethnic groups have made to society and why we have 'selective' history in history books. Surely if Scientists can downgrade Pluto to a dwarf planet based on facts, Historians can write/provide more accurate historically accurate books and resources.

I agree@Socrateswasrightaboutvoting . But there has to be the will to do as such. Take the education system for example. There will always be pushback when a change is suggested. Sometimes from people you would expect to know better🙄.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/20/teaching-white-privilege-is-a-fact-breaks-the-law-minister-says

I saw that first thing but couldnt think of any nice to post other that thanks for ruining my morning @LadyKenya 😂 I remember reading about this at the time, it was not long after I had read Afua Hirsch's Brit(ish): On Race, Identity and Belonging. I couldn't help but think that in Kemi's world there would be many more Nick Ferrari's. When it comes to ethnic people and politics it is not true to say that cream always rises to the top.

Socrateswasrightaboutvoting · 03/07/2023 20:41

HadalyEve · 03/07/2023 12:16

Very admirable @Socrateswasrightaboutvoting your patience on the FWR racism thread. I see you and other posters have faced a toxic mess of hostility and personal attacks.

Yes, same ole, same ole - they are under attac...k, what about..., ridicule deny and repeat. Seriously even Medusa would give that a hard pass.

PinotGroggio · 03/07/2023 20:50

Ah Kemi, the Mumsnet white feminist's darling...

Socrateswasrightaboutvoting · 03/07/2023 20:52

PinotGroggio · 03/07/2023 20:50

Ah Kemi, the Mumsnet white feminist's darling...

Her poor children though

HadalyEve · 03/07/2023 21:10

Socrateswasrightaboutvoting · 03/07/2023 20:41

Yes, same ole, same ole - they are under attac...k, what about..., ridicule deny and repeat. Seriously even Medusa would give that a hard pass.

I knew it would go that way. It’s not something I like being right about.

FWR is a red zone for me. I hate going on there and often use a different username because it’s a very hostile space when it comes to race issues.

Socrateswasrightaboutvoting · 03/07/2023 21:43

HadalyEve · 03/07/2023 21:10

I knew it would go that way. It’s not something I like being right about.

FWR is a red zone for me. I hate going on there and often use a different username because it’s a very hostile space when it comes to race issues.

It's all a conspiracy to control them by the original poster. Mwah ha ha...

HadalyEve · 03/07/2023 22:31

Socrateswasrightaboutvoting · 03/07/2023 21:43

It's all a conspiracy to control them by the original poster. Mwah ha ha...

I know right. That’s some QAnon level paranoia.

Socrateswasrightaboutvoting · 04/07/2023 08:02

HadalyEve · 03/07/2023 22:31

I know right. That’s some QAnon level paranoia.

Seriously

Socrateswasrightaboutvoting · 04/07/2023 08:02

Racist things you hear, straight out of the white privilege playbook. Apologies if we have had there already.
120 - Wail and cry victim when challenged on behaviour.
121- Ethnic women are trying to silence white women
122 - Educate us on racism

123- Provide evidence for racism
124 - That not racist
125 - We are no more racist that any others

PinotGroggio · 04/07/2023 08:06

I just looked at that Disney thread again and WOW. Some of the comments on there. Apparently objecting to diverse casting is a sign of being intellectual, what???

And the site stuff thread about FWR is now locked as it reached 1k. You fought the good fight @Socrateswasrightaboutvoting but they will just never get it.

HadalyEve · 04/07/2023 09:00

Socrateswasrightaboutvoting · 04/07/2023 08:02

Racist things you hear, straight out of the white privilege playbook. Apologies if we have had there already.
120 - Wail and cry victim when challenged on behaviour.
121- Ethnic women are trying to silence white women
122 - Educate us on racism

123- Provide evidence for racism
124 - That not racist
125 - We are no more racist that any others

The FWR thread is full of that and more.

HadalyEve · 04/07/2023 09:06

PinotGroggio · 04/07/2023 08:06

I just looked at that Disney thread again and WOW. Some of the comments on there. Apparently objecting to diverse casting is a sign of being intellectual, what???

And the site stuff thread about FWR is now locked as it reached 1k. You fought the good fight @Socrateswasrightaboutvoting but they will just never get it.

The Disney thread is horrendous. I’m a teensy bit glad it was there though for the FWR thread because you know if all the racism had been deleted, then it would have gone
124 that not racist
125 you making it all up, was no racism because I remember that thread and…

There was plenty of that going on when it had only been linked!

I do expect MN to erase the evidence though. The modern day equivalent of shredding documents to hide nastiness.

skullbabe · 04/07/2023 12:15

OMG both those threads are a dumpster fire. Well done @Socrateswasrightaboutvoting for fighting the good fight but it is so obvious that many of these women don’t see our full humanity. It was very interesting to see many racism apologists from the threads I frequent pop up on that thread.

GoogleMeNot · 04/07/2023 18:35

Socrateswasrightaboutvoting · 04/07/2023 08:02

Racist things you hear, straight out of the white privilege playbook. Apologies if we have had there already.
120 - Wail and cry victim when challenged on behaviour.
121- Ethnic women are trying to silence white women
122 - Educate us on racism

123- Provide evidence for racism
124 - That not racist
125 - We are no more racist that any others

Also white women are discriminated against because not all body types are represented in the media rolls eyes

AnAngelAtMyTableWithMe · 04/07/2023 18:47

Just popping in to say I have been reading with dismay and it all makes me feel tired. One of those weeks when you just get so fed up with it. So thank you to those of you who put yourselves out there to challenge these things. @HadalyEve yes have had that many times, you get racism deleted eventually after it sits there and once deleted people can say it never happened, not really racist, you're twisting things... blah blah so sometimes it pays to leave it.

Socrateswasrightaboutvoting · 04/07/2023 22:13

@PinotGroggio @skullbabe I just couldn't let it lie yesterday. I did get a little sarcastic at the end. Some days I channel Reni Eddo- Lodge - an eye roll, a heavy sigh and a hard pass. As for the other one - its batshit crazy. I am liking the style and retorts of some of the non deluded posters and as for the other side of the argument, card carrying...

Socrateswasrightaboutvoting · 04/07/2023 22:17

GoogleMeNot · 04/07/2023 18:35

Also white women are discriminated against because not all body types are represented in the media rolls eyes

The struggle is real...🙄 Seriously, wouldn't life be great, if that was all you had to worry about.

Socrateswasrightaboutvoting · 04/07/2023 22:24

HadalyEve · 04/07/2023 09:06

The Disney thread is horrendous. I’m a teensy bit glad it was there though for the FWR thread because you know if all the racism had been deleted, then it would have gone
124 that not racist
125 you making it all up, was no racism because I remember that thread and…

There was plenty of that going on when it had only been linked!

I do expect MN to erase the evidence though. The modern day equivalent of shredding documents to hide nastiness.

How messed up do you have be to be to be prepared to die on a hill of 'x mythical creature should be white'.

skullbabe · 04/07/2023 22:35

So telling so many posters kept saying that they were sad because they pictured the Little Mermaid as red headed…….😳

HadalyEve · 05/07/2023 01:24

skullbabe · 04/07/2023 22:35

So telling so many posters kept saying that they were sad because they pictured the Little Mermaid as red headed…….😳

And how the Snow White doesn’t have white enough skin and it’s a disgrace they aren’t lightening the skin of the Latina actress.

But all this was defended as part of an “interesting and wide ranging discussion” of a “high intellectual standard”.

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