Dec Mums - Christmas is coming...the Dec ladies have got all fat...time to have our babies...the novelty's worn flat

[Beans33]

Here's a new link for us all - think it needed doing asap as running out of space!!

I hope this is ok for everyone?

beans, just in the nick of time! Well done

Looks great - hope everyone still reads the last few messages from previous thread as I am desperate for opinions on whether I am about to pop!

Gosh, arti - I don't know I'm afraid. Being a first-timer myself, I'm worried about giving advice wrongly!!

Why don't you repost arti? We've got a whole new thread to fill up! wheeeeeee

no idea arti! My mw said 'established labour' is from 4cm and that's when you can go into hospital, but I've no idea as to whether 2cm-4cm takes a few hours or several days! How was the sweep? I have probably got to have one on Friday - did it hurt?

And here... I give in to the list obsession:

BIRTH ANNOUNCEMENTS

14/11/08 - MrsMattie - Baby Girl "Bella", 7lb, C/S (due 28/11)
19/11/08 - Flumpybumpy - Baby Girl "Niamh Lily", 6lb 13oz, C/S (due 02/12)
20/11/08 - pixsix - Baby Boy, (due 01/12)
24/11/08 - daisydora - Baby Boy "Harry", 8lb 8oz, (due 03/12)
24/11/08 - Amy123 Baby Boy "Robbie Lewis", 7lb 13.5oz (due 3/12)
25/11/08 - Verso - Baby Girl "Frieda Harriet", 8lbs 13oz, C/S (due 04/12)
25/11/08 - LadyThompson - Baby Girl "Octavia Poppy Alice", 6lb 9oz, C/S (due 03/12)
28/11/08 - theyoungvisiter - Baby Boy, HB (due 09/12)
29/11/08 - lal07 - Baby Girl, 6lb 11oz, (due 08/12)

Arti, when i read that Ina may Gaskin book there were a few women in there that were 2 cm dilated up to a week before they started labour, so well it will happen soon but i don't think you have started yet. i know this annoying to hear, but you do know when it's happening.

oh and Bisou, glad to hear you've got your tree up, i want to go out later and get a tree. However most of the places that sell trees around here don' have them available until the 5th. I think it must only be an australian tradition to put the christmas decorations up on the 1st. I have to say i don't know if DS's heart will be in it as he is still quite unwell, we are on the sofa watching Madagascar for the 2nd go in a row. At least i have gotten him off Cars, for now. I am also going to have to go out and get him some yoghurt and rice pudding as it is all he wants to eat today.

Thanks for the new thread beans bisou I've had something similar to what you describe, it isn't hiccups because as you said, I can feel those really clearly. I thought it might be the baby practicing breathing. I have no evidence to back it up with though!

I'm afraid I can't help either arti. Being an inexperienced first timer and all!

Oh and re the secret stork... the postman has put a 'sorry you were out' card through my door which I think must be my secret stork . I was in though which is frustrating as I can't collect it for 48 hours!

Arti, I'm afraid that most people are dilated up to about 2cm for a couple of weeks up to the birth so probably not imminent.
Thanks for the new thread Beans. Was hoping I might manage to have my baby on the last thread, but at this rate, by the time I get round to announcing we'll have moved on another three!
I'm feeling alot more positive today, and actually excited that my baby will be here in 2 days! Had a lovely w/e with DS, taking him to meet live reindeers etc, and all you wise Mums out there are right with your various bits of advice, so thanks for making me feel better.

well I've packed dds bag for if she needs to be shipped off somewhere - only took a few minutes because she doesn't really need anything! PJs, undies, change of clothes...she spends quite a lot of tie in the company of her imaginary friends at the moment (Mr Nobody, Ballerinacorn and Marticorn???!!) so at least I don't have to remember to pack them!

arti I wish I knew, but I'm a first timer too so no help, sorry.

I did want to say though Verso that if you continue to have problems with BF, you may also want to get them to check for tongue tie? I know this can often go undiagnosed, but can be a cause of difficulty with latch. I've actually got it myself, and only discovered/realised it since reading up on BF (I have a very mild case). No wonder I can't do certain singing excercises well though - there's a blimmin bit of tendon (or whatever it is) holding my tongue too tight.

veggie I didn't realise 1st of Dec tree decorating was an Oz tradition - TBH I think DH just gets sick of me asking all the time so he just lets me put it up as long as it's December. I just love the fairly lights. I would decorate my whole house with them if I could! Hope DS is feeling better super fast so you can both have fun getting in the Christmas spirit too.

veggie also wanted to say that we use a fake tree so that's why we can do it so early. There aren't any real ones here yet either. I do love how real trees smell, but feel a bit bad when it comes to 'chuck out' time. Although I think they are more eco about how they grow/harvest/recycle them now.

JB glad to hear I'm not the only one with the pulsating thing! I wondered whether it might be breathing practice too. It's strange isn't it?

I'd better get to bed - almost 1.30am here. Have a lovely day everyone!

Wow that birth list is already looking mighty impressive & we're only just starting December. Can we have an updated due list pretty please?

arti I think the others are right - 2cm doesn't necessarily mean much other than you're headed in the right direction (and I don't think it makes a difference that it's not your first, but I could be wrong). Doesn't mean labour's not imminent either though ... have you had any other signs? I'm surprised they gave you a sweep at 39 weeks actually - I remember being quite taken aback when they offered me one on my due date last time. What's the big hurry?

I fear I may be addicted to Diagnosis Murder. It's so bad it's good. Anyone else watching it??!!

Yes Verso I was going to say the same as Bisou about the tongue-tie. It's my pet obsession and I would urge all of you to make sure it's checked for and checked for again (lots of health professionals think it doesn't interfere with breastfeeding and so may notice it but not mention it, but they are wrong). DS's tongue tie wasn't diagnosed until 6 weeks (corrected at 7 weeks) and we had a terrible time of it which lasted until 3 months when I was able to exclusively breastfeed him. I'm still so angry at how it could have been missed, and it will be one of the first things I check for when DD is born - I am NOT going through that hell again.

beans thanks for the new thread, love the title!

arti with ds I was dilated for about a week before he finally decided to make an appearance! Probably not what you wanted to hear though!

veggie we haven't put up our xmas tree yet, usually do it around a week beforehand. But ds & I have been making lots of decorations to go on. No colour-coordinated decor for me this year!

Thanks for the new thread Beans.

I have hardly no bump now. It seems to have moved completely south. There is no bum in my ribs!! But I have what feels like a watermelon between my legs. I am hoping it means he wont be long. I don't like looking like a cowboy when I walk.

Arti I'm not too sure really. I am sorry I am feeling useless.

Woohoo for lists

Ok... just one more list before bed then

LadyOfTheFlowers due 30/11 DC#3
badkitty due 01/12 DC#1
ChutneyMary scheduled c/s 01/12 (due 10/12) DC#3
twinkle183 due 01/12 DC#3
pwcbird due 01/12 DC#2
rosmerta due 02/12 DC#2 - Homebirth/West Mid, W London
RawChocolate due 02/12 DC#3
melissa72 due 02/12 DC#1
Modernlove due 03/12 DC#1
DonnyLass due 03/12 DC#2, (BOY!)
Doozie due 3/12 DC#1
penny99 due 3/12 DC#1
Katie3677 scheduled c/s 3/12 (due 14/12) DC#2 - Hereford County Hospital
goneundergroundtillfamilyknow due 04/12 DC#3
Hanni22anni due 04/12 DC#2
BrightShinySun due 05/12 DC#2
Nolda due 05/12 DC#2 Princess Anne, Southampton, (BOY!)
mibbes due 06/12 DC#1 - Stirling Royal
majormoo due 06/12 DC#3 - Royal Sussex, Brighton
elenamaesmummy due 07/12 DC#2
jenduck due 07/12 DC#1
Beans33 due 07/12 DC#1 - St Thomas', London
Ebs26 due 07/12 DC#1 - Darent Valley, Kent, (GIRL!)
hiccymapops due 07/12 DC#2, (BOY!)
poisondwarf due 08/12 DC#2 - Homerton, London, (GIRL!)
toratora due 08/12 DC#3
Mina30 due 08/12 DC#2
jumpjockey due 08/12 DC#1, Homebirth, Cambridge
JezzaJ9 due 08/12/08 - Hope, Manchester
JamInMyWellies due 09/12 DC#2 - St Johns, Chelmsford
Natalie537 due 09/12 DC#2, (GIRL!)
hennaly due 09/12 DC#7
Artichokes due 10/12 DC#2, London, (GIRL!)
Kmp1 scheduled c/s 10/12 (due 17/12) DC#1, London, (BOY!)
Webbi due 11/12 DC#1
Bisou due 12/12 DC#1, Australia, (BOY!)
fishnchips due 12/12 DC#3
Jackstini due 12/12 DC#2
kayzisexpecting due 12/12 DC#2, Malton, North Yorks, (BOY!)
Alliebongo due 12/12 DC#3 - West Suffolk
KutilPutil due 13/12 DC#2
traceface due 13/12 DC#2
cococat due 14/12 DC#1
pootleflump due 14/12 DC#2
monkeydops due 15/12 DC#2
Veggiemummy due 15/12 DC#2 - Homebirth, Derby, (BOY!)
abbymeg scheduled c/s 15/12 (due 21/12) DC#2 - St James, Leeds, (BOY!)
hotmama scheduled c/s 15/12 (due 21/12) DC#3 - Nottingham City Hospital
Jollybear scheduled c/s 15/12 (due 26/12) DC#1
bunnysgirl due 16/12 DC#2
chinchi due 17/12 DC#2 - Calderdale Royal, Halifax
Purple79 due 17/12 DC#1 - St Thomas', London, (GIRL!)
IceCube due 18/12 DC#1 - Homebirth, Cheshire
snorris due 18/12 DC#5, (GIRL!)
SummerLightning due 18/12 DC#1 - Addenbrookes, Cambridge, (BOY!)
Twiga/okaythen scheduled c/s 18/12 (due 26/12) DC#3
moaningminnie2020 due 20/12 DC#2
reban due 20/12 DC#4
Ninii due 20/12 DC#2
Indith due 20/12 DC#2 - Homebirth, Durham
RhinestoneCowgirl/MaeWest due 21/12 DC#2 - Homebirth, Bristol
waitinggirl due 21/12 DC#1 - Whittington, London
preggiejane due 21/12 DC#1
georgiepig due 22/12 DC#2
NineUnlikelyTales due 22/12 DC#2
hattyyellow due 22/12 DC#3 (GIRL?)
Turniphead1 due 24/12 DC#3 - St John & Elizabeth's, N London
zoejeanne due 24/12 DC#1 - Scarborough
HollyMiranda due 24/12 DC#1 - Chelsea & Westminster
anjlix due 24/12 DC's#1&2 - St Thomas', London (TWIN GIRLS!)
Missmama due 25/12 DC#3 - Birmingham Heartlands
EnchantedWithEdwardCullen/DisenchantedPlusBump due 25/12 DC#3
kitkat9 due 25/12 DC#3
Annagt due 25/12 DC#1
strikey due 25/12 DC#2
GettingBiggerBird due 25/12 DC's#2&3 - Homerton, London (GIRL & BOY!)
purplepansy due 25/12 DC#3
PinguRocks due 25/12 DC#1 - St Thomas', London
Lowrib due 25/12 DC#1 - Homerton, London
mybumpsaboy due 25/12 DC#1, (BOY!)
tm2 due 26/12 DC#1
GordontheGopher due 26/12 DC#2
LitterBug due 26/12 DC#3
Crazycatlady due 26/12 DC#1 - Homebirth/St Thomas', London
Olipop due 27/12 DC#2 - West Middlesex, London
simmo14 due 27/12 DC#2, (GIRL!)
rowergirl due 27/12 DC#2
CatDean due 27/12 DC#1 - Homebirth/Homerton, London
feb due 28/12 DC#2
babblington due 29/12 DC#3
emmanbump due 29/12 DC#1
Kimberly1979 due 29/12 - St. John's and Lizzies (BOY!)
EffiePerine due 30/12 DC#2 - Homerton, London (BOY!)
march29 due 31/12 DC#2
TheInvisibleHand due 31/12 DC#2 - Royal Free, London

Bisou's gone to bed so I'll have a go - hope this is right:

LadyOfTheFlowers due 30/11 DC#3
badkitty due 01/12 DC#1
ChutneyMary scheduled c/s 01/12 (due 10/12) DC#3
twinkle183 due 01/12 DC#3
pwcbird due 01/12 DC#2
rosmerta due 02/12 DC#2 - Homebirth/West Mid, W London
RawChocolate due 02/12 DC#3
melissa72 due 02/12 DC#1
Modernlove due 03/12 DC#1
DonnyLass due 03/12 DC#2, (BOY!)
Doozie due 3/12 DC#1
penny99 due 3/12 DC#1
Katie3677 scheduled c/s 3/12 (due 14/12) DC#2 - Hereford County Hospital
goneundergroundtillfamilyknow due 04/12 DC#3
Hanni22anni due 04/12 DC#2
BrightShinySun due 05/12 DC#2
Nolda due 05/12 DC#2 Princess Anne, Southampton, (BOY!)
mibbes due 06/12 DC#1 - Stirling Royal
majormoo due 06/12 DC#3 - Royal Sussex, Brighton
elenamaesmummy due 07/12 DC#2
jenduck due 07/12 DC#1
Beans33 due 07/12 DC#1 - St Thomas', London
Ebs26 due 07/12 DC#1 - Darent Valley, Kent, (GIRL!)
hiccymapops due 07/12 DC#2, (BOY!)
poisondwarf due 08/12 DC#2 - Homerton, London, (GIRL!)
toratora due 08/12 DC#3
Mina30 due 08/12 DC#2
jumpjockey due 08/12 DC#1, Homebirth, Cambridge
JezzaJ9 due 08/12/08 - Hope, Manchester
JamInMyWellies due 09/12 DC#2 - St Johns, Chelmsford
Natalie537 due 09/12 DC#2, (GIRL!)
hennaly due 09/12 DC#7
Artichokes due 10/12 DC#2, London, (GIRL!)
Kmp1 scheduled c/s 10/12 (due 17/12) DC#1, London (BOY!)
Webbi due 11/12 DC#1
Bisou due 12/12 DC#1, Australia, (BOY!)
fishnchips due 12/12 DC#3
Jackstini due 12/12 DC#2
kayzisexpecting due 12/12 DC#2, Malton, North Yorks, (BOY!)
Alliebongo due 12/12 DC#3 - West Suffolk
KutilPutil due 13/12 DC#2
traceface due 13/12 DC#2
cococat due 14/12 DC#1
pootleflump due 14/12 DC#2
monkeydops due 15/12 DC#2
Veggiemummy due 15/12 DC#2 - Homebirth, Derby, (BOY!)
abbymeg scheduled c/s 15/12 (due 21/12) DC#2 - St James, Leeds, (BOY!)
hotmama scheduled c/s 15/12 (due 21/12) DC#3 - Nottingham City Hospital
Jollybear scheduled c/s 15/12 (due 26/12) DC#1
bunnysgirl due 16/12 DC#2
chinchi due 17/12 DC#2 - Calderdale Royal, Halifax
Purple79 due 17/12 DC#1 - St Thomas', London, (GIRL!)
IceCube due 18/12 DC#1 - Homebirth, Cheshire
snorris due 18/12 DC#5, (GIRL!)
SummerLightning due 18/12 DC#1 - Addenbrookes, Cambridge, (BOY!)
Twiga/okaythen scheduled c/s 18/12 (due 26/12) DC#3
moaningminnie2020 due 20/12 DC#2
reban due 20/12 DC#4
Ninii due 20/12 DC#2
Indith due 20/12 DC#2 - Homebirth, Durham
RhinestoneCowgirl/MaeWest due 21/12 DC#2 - Homebirth, Bristol
waitinggirl due 21/12 DC#1 - Whittington, London
preggiejane due 21/12 DC#1
georgiepig due 22/12 DC#2
NineUnlikelyTales due 22/12 DC#2
hattyyellow due 22/12 DC#3 (GIRL?)
Turniphead1 due 24/12 DC#3 - St John & Elizabeth's, N London
zoejeanne due 24/12 DC#1 - Scarborough
HollyMiranda due 24/12 DC#1 - Chelsea & Westminster
anjlix due 24/12 DC's#1&2 - St Thomas', London (TWIN GIRLS!)
Missmama due 25/12 DC#3 - Birmingham Heartlands
EnchantedWithEdwardCullen/DisenchantedPlusBump due 25/12 DC#3
kitkat9 due 25/12 DC#3
Annagt due 25/12 DC#1
strikey due 25/12 DC#2
GettingBiggerBird due 25/12 DC's#2&3 - Homerton, London (GIRL & BOY!)
purplepansy due 25/12 DC#3
PinguRocks due 25/12 DC#1 - St Thomas', London
Lowrib due 25/12 DC#1 - Homerton, London
mybumpsaboy due 25/12 DC#1, (BOY!)
tm2 due 26/12 DC#1
GordontheGopher due 26/12 DC#2
LitterBug due 26/12 DC#3
Crazycatlady due 26/12 DC#1 - Homebirth/St Thomas', London
Olipop due 27/12 DC#2 - West Middlesex, London
simmo14 due 27/12 DC#2, (GIRL!)
rowergirl due 27/12 DC#2
CatDean due 27/12 DC#1 - Homebirth/Homerton, London
feb due 28/12 DC#2
babblington due 29/12 DC#3
emmanbump due 29/12 DC#1
Kimberly1979 due 29/12 - St. John's and Lizzies (BOY!)
EffiePerine due 30/12 DC#2 - Homerton, London (BOY!)
march29 due 31/12 DC#2
TheInvisibleHand due 31/12 DC#2 - Royal Free, London

Thanks for all your advice. I don't mind if it means nothing as I feel so crappy. Might go to bed for a bit.

PD - I am not sure why the swept me. It was a consultant (I am seeing her weekly as I had pre-eclampsia last time). I think she has a very medicalised approach and basically thinks it is better to get the baby out incase I get sudden onset pre-e again. As long as she does not try for induction I don't mind. There is no way I want anothe induction - it was hellish.

Trace - the sweep was less painful than I thought they were meant to be. It was very uncomfortable and it felt like a badly done smear but that was it. I am bleeding a bit now though.

whoops!

haha I have list competition

pd my mum said that I was the only one of the 4 of her children that she had problems with BF, and that when I was given a bottle I resolutely refused breast ever again. So I agree with you, it's really important to have tongue tie checked for, it should be standard procedure with all newborns if the mums want to BF. You can still have it snipped as an adult too I believe... and I've wondered since finding that out if it would make a my singing any better. Don't think I'm that keen to find out at this stage now though!

Ok... I really am going to bed now!

Wow, another new thread!

Re signs of labour, would agree with everyone else. Also, although prelabout can go on for a while it might not - with DS I had a show late one night, niggly contractions through the day then to the hospital at 1am to find I was 5 cm dilated (DS born 3 hours later). I asked the mw when I should go in as I didn't want to leave it too late (due to the ABs) and she pointed out that she couldn't tell when I would be in labour! I was nearly turned away from the hospital last time as they didn't think I was having proper contractions (could still talk and stuff), luckliy they did an internal and let me stay, or DS would have been born in a taxi somewhere