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Beans33 · 01/12/2008 13:54

Here's a new link for us all - think it needed doing asap as running out of space!!

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traceface · 01/12/2008 22:14

JJ - congratulations!!!

Verso - sorry you've had to go back in - hope she pinks up soon and you can get back to home life

Hatty - I'm aiming for a VBAC too (although am questioning my sanity in that decision the nearer it gets!). Have been told a few things by a MW:
they won't let me go overdue
they won't let me labour for ages (how long I've no idea!)
they won't induce me with drugs

all of the above because there is a risk of the scar rupturing, which they obviously want to avoid.
They are probably giving me a stretch and sweep on Friday this week (I'll be 38+6)to try to get things going, and then presumably if there's no action by due date they'll section me again.
Have also been told by MW to labour as long as I can at home because once I go into hospital they will monitor me and never let me escape!!! I was told to keep an eye on my pulse too - it will go up with contractions, but if it gets to double your normal rate and stays there between contractions, it could indicate a rupture too so you need to go in.
Having said all that I might be told something different on Friday because I never seem to get the same message twice from different people!

Veggiemummy · 01/12/2008 22:21

Ouch Kayz. that hurts.

sorry to hear you are back in but good on you for taking her in, good call on your part.

Hi there LadyT lovely to have you back, and sounding so well. How is your DD, you have one to tell us about now. On the birth thing CS V Vag, i get people friends, family etc raising eyebrows when i say we are having a homebirth and going on about why don't you just go to hospital, get all the pain relief as if i am some sort of sadist. I would like to know whose bloody business is it anyway. we are lucky we live in a day and age where we have lots of medical technology available to us that makes either lots of intervention or by the same token no intervention (but available quickly if needed) in childbirth a safe option (not sure if that makes sense). Basically people should mind their own business and let us birth our babies the way we feel most comfortable doing it.

aahhh feel better now. DS is really ill poor thing just woke up with rigors and a nice high temp have settled him a bit and had him sit with us while we watched the Liverpool match. Now he is back to bed and DH is cutting my toenails and popping some polish on, as i can't reach them, such a good hubby. Hopefully next time they need doing i will e able to reach them.

kayzisexpecting · 01/12/2008 22:23

Oh, I am having a few twinges. Don't know if they will amount to anything. Probably not knowing my luck.

Turniphead1 · 01/12/2008 22:23

Jump - fantastic news!! Well done you - all sounds amazing. Can't wait to hear your little girls name (when you get a chance to decide!)

Verso so sorry your LO and you are back in hospital. Hope the jaundice clears quickly so you can back home.

LadyT great to hear from you! Hope Octavia is settling well (or in any case that you get a bit more sleep tonight!). I agree on staying on this thread - not least because if I go 10 days over like last time it will be well into Jan before I get to join you all!

Veggiemummy · 01/12/2008 22:33

oh Trace- hope you can do it. It is hard for you i guess because your previous bubby was premmie, i'm not sure why they won't let you go overdue, but fingers crossed for you. Just for your own peace of mind the stats for rupture are very low and you are young and fit so would have healed quite well. Recent figures are from the US too where they only do a single layer suture for CS (UK do a double as it should be) so higher chance of rupture, but still the stats are low, i think some like 0.54% double check that with your MW though. However obviously if you did rupture that would be bad so they just take it carefully. You will find (hopefully) that the MW are quite keen to facilitate a a VBAC if thats what you want.

Veggiemummy · 01/12/2008 22:37

keep us posted Kayz

kayzisexpecting · 01/12/2008 22:41

I will do, they seem to have stopped already.

Not to keen on it happening in the middle of the night. Don't fancy waking DS or my Mum really.

mibbes · 01/12/2008 22:42

ladies, sorry no time to catch up, it has been a mad day.

MW at triage confirmed that it was waters starting to break and due to risk of infection I have to be induced tomorrow morning - eeek ! Have spent the day texting friends and putting up xmas decorations - all ready now, not sure how much I'll sleep. Sorry for me post but my head is up my @rse. I'll probably get one of the girls from my TTC thread to post my news here and couold someone forward it on to the email group please ?

Good luck to anyone else heading into scary labour territory in the next day or so....! Look forward to catching up with all the news when I get back !

kayzisexpecting · 01/12/2008 22:46

Good Luck Mibbes, looking forward to hearing your announcement. Will be thinking of you in the morning.

I think sex is on the cards when DH gets home from work. Even if it doesn't bring on labour, it should help me sleep all night.

Veggiemummy · 01/12/2008 22:46

all the best mibbes, i thought you had a little longer than that but hey you may start labour overnight and either way you will see your baby soon hooray!!

LadyThompson · 01/12/2008 23:47

Oooh, good luck Mibbes! Thinking of you tomorrow! Just keep concentrating on meeting the Mibblet.

Kimberly1979 · 01/12/2008 23:57

Geez this thread is moving fast!

Turnip I have an appointment at SJ&L on Thursday also at 1:30pm. What time is your appointment in the morning? I'd love to meet up for coffee somewhere!!

Congrats Chutney and Jump!!!

mibbes good luck tomorrow. will definitely be thinking of you in the morning!

ladyt glad you're back!! Hope everything is going okay with little Octavia! She's precious!

verso sorry to hear that you had to go back to the hospital with your little one. Hope they can get her feeling better quickly.

LadyThompson · 02/12/2008 00:03

Here is my post about DD's birth, for those who are interested. (Otherwise do skip it, it's long!)

Ok, well after months of being quite sanguine about the op, by last Monday night I was extremely apprehensive. Ok, I was totally bricking it about being cut open, and whether my baby would be all right.
In the end, by the time I got to theatre I felt quite calm as the anaesthetist was totally lovely and I have always liked and had confidence in my obstetrician. It wasn?t like ER though. I was expecting gleaming chrome, but it was a bit scruffy (DP and I both thought it was an ante room at first) and like a nutty professor?s potting shed. I was allowed to keep my contact lenses in so at least I was in a position to see it. Putting in the spinal block and the epidural (I had both and then the epidural was going to be kept in for 48 hrs pain relief ? of which more later) was surprisingly much less painful than I thought. The anaesthetic took a long time to take on the one side which was a bit worrying! And the rummaging around in my tummy I found a little disturbing. Not painful at all, but a bit uncomfy and unnerving.
They brought her out and peeped her over the drape quite quickly (she came out crying which I knew was a good sign), and I really was shocked that I didn?t recognise her. God knows why, but I had convinced myself that I would miraculously recognise her as mine. She looked like a complete stranger, and a very slightly grey and waxy one. When they handed her to me she seemed very heavy and I was amazed that she was only 6lb12oz. When I was sewn up (which, like the rummaging, I found the feel of a little disconcerting) DP went off with her whilst she was checked and weighed and so on. It was so reassuring and lovely to have him there, both when I was having the op and when someone had to go off with her. He really was wonderful.
When the spinal wore off, I was left with the epidural, and what was just smarting at first began to turn into serious pain. I was very woozy still, and the baby next to me in the recovery room didn?t really seem like mine. I felt disconnected from her, and seeing DP so obviously besotted with her made me feel strange as I didn?t at that point share those feelings. Mind you, I couldn?t feel much other than intense pain. They kept topping up and topping up the epidural, and yet, aside from a blessed hour or so, I felt every one of those seven layers of stitches. I think I was really crying to DP at one stage, and saying that I couldn?t take it any more, which I think was very distressing for him. In the end I wasn?t allowed to have any more top ups for safety?s sake, and they took me upstairs to my room. Whereupon...they realised the mattress was soaked with all my epidural top ups, and that was why they hadn?t been working. They'd just been squirting out my back. It wasn?t anyone?s fault: the team looking after me were fantastic, but I hadn?t realised how tricksy and unreliable epidurals can be. They can?t resite them if they have failed, so it had to come out and I had loads of morphine. It took ages to work and didn?t cover the pain, though I did manage to get some sleep. The took DD off to the nursery for the night. The next day, I had even more morphine and I spent a VERY strange day two, though far less painful. They make you get up on Day Two. It hurts like hell.
But I still didn?t feel connected to DD. I cared about her and I was glad she was safe. But I didn?t feel that overwhelming love you read about and I was so worried and woozy and sort of...numb. I think it was borne of a sort of shock, both of the pain but also her arrival, which I now realise I was less psyched up for than I thought. Oh, and the drugs of course. But I let myself feel it, hoping desperately that it would fade away. I didn?t really talk to DP about it that much, because I didn?t want to worry him or spoil things for him. But I think he knew really.
However, on Day 3 I told them I didn?t want any more morphine and I was sore but everything began to improve rapidly. I felt so much brighter and felt much more of an interest in DD and began to find her lovely and kind of amazing. And the day after that, it was just me and her, as DP had to leave London for a day to do some urgent work, and do you know what? All of a sudden she was completely under my skin and I adored her. And that?s how I have been ever since. I am very tired and still sore but I just love everything about her.
Just a few random other points: I thought I would care about daft things like the nurses changing my maternity pads when I was too feeble. Needless to say, I didn?t give a toss. Turnip?s tip of taking dried apricots to make you go to the loo is a good one. Those guys are a banker, more so than the gloopy laxative syrup they give you. I didn?t use my iPod or my personal dvd player. I barely watched telly and I couldn?t concentrate to read either. My make up did get used as it helped me to feel humanoid, but I would say definitely take a nice moisturiser and a lip balm ? hospitals are very drying. On the the same note, take lots of nice drinks or get someone to bring them in for you. You need to keep drinking, it?s easier and more pleasant than eating when you feel rough, and hospital water gets very boring. And that, my dears, is about it.

Verso · 02/12/2008 01:43

Fabulous birth story, LadyT. (and can I say I love your naming of the "mibblet" earlier too ). I am SO sorry to hear about your epidural though - sounds terrible. You must have been in utter agony. Well done for getting through it. I can't believe they didn't check the epidural (well I can believe it, sadly...)

I can totally identify with the baby-feeling-like-a-stranger thing. I had that with both of mine and it's really quite disconcerting. You're suddenly handed this peculiar bundle and expected to get on with it because >drum roll< it's yours!

Must write my story down too. My battery will go soon though so will have to be once DD2 and I get out of prison hospital.

Speaking of which - time to wake her for a feed, which is so hard because she gets really upset when I have to put her back under the lights .

(I love this thread, btw.)

mibbes · 02/12/2008 06:16

Lady T what a fab story (except the pain bit !), you sound so in love with your wee bundle now , gives a girl reason to get on with it !

Verso glad to hear you are sounding upbeat missus - hope you can escape soon xx

Well update is that contractions started at midnight - almost the minute I got into bed ! Managed to sleep through 1.5 hours of them but now they are every 5 mins (although only last 30 sesconds). Got bored lying in bed so am up and about and so glad it has kicked off by itself - not convinced the contractions are sore enough though , these has better not he BH !!

poisondwarf · 02/12/2008 08:05

mibbes great to hear it's started on its own. All the best for today - can't wait to hear about your adventures later.

Will come back on & catch up with everyone else later.

traceface · 02/12/2008 08:20

that's ace mibbles - very exciting. Hope all goes well!
It's snowed! There's a lovely white blanket everywhere and it's still snowing proper big flakes! DD is so excited and has already been out to help dh scrape the car!
Went to antenatal physio class last night with dh. Some helpful tummy toning exercises for now and post-birth and some stuff about comfy positions for labour...but the best thing was just spending a few hours with dh. That sounds so silly because we are both in the house together most evenings, but seem to end up watching tv or one of us on the computer (guilty face!!). Anyway, we had a really good chat in the car on the way and I told him how I'd been feeling a bit lower... am scared to share with him because my PND was VERY hard for him to deal with and is the main reason why we have 4 1/2 yrs between dd1 and this baby. He was really supportive and understanding and although I'm still teary today, I do feel better that it's not my 'secret' anymore. Expecting my CPN call today to let me know what to do with my meds...
Anyway, enough of me.
Really hope things are starting to happen for you Kayz... Verso - hope the jaundice level has come down nicely overnight and that you can get home soon...
Have filled my tummy with porridge (equal quantities of oats, milk and golden syrup!) and dd has gone to pre-school, so am off for a self-indulgent lie-down to try to shift my headache...
Catch you later xxx

rosmerta · 02/12/2008 08:26

mibbes good luck for today!

verso hope you and dd2 are out of hospital soon

veggie hope ds is feeling better today

ladyt I can't believe they didn't check the epidurals either! But I do completely understand the whole not feeling connected with them. I think there's such a huge build up with the pg & then the birth that you forget there's an actual baby at the end which you're expected to fall in love with immediately!

I've been having twinges & niggles as well but hasn't developed into anything else yet. Don't think Junior will be appearing on his due date!

kayzisexpecting · 02/12/2008 08:38

Morning,

LadyT Sorry about the pain and not feeling connected with DD at first. I remember DH going to make some phone calls and leaving me with DS and I was thinking 'What the hell do I do with him'

Mibbes I hope everything goes smoothly. Looking forward to hearing from you.

Well, everything stopped last night. I got about 2 hours sleep due to bad back and not getting comfy.
I am in a real mood with DH as he has demanded a lie in because he worked until 11 last night. I didn't go to bed until he came home and didn't sleep all night but I still have to get up with DS.

Hope everyone is ok. I wont moan anymore I promise.

abbymeg · 02/12/2008 08:53

traceface You're in York? 20 minutes away and we have frozen slush. Nowhere near as romantic! I will definitely be residing indoors today!

Mibbes super good luck for today; I'm very excited for you!

LT Congratulations again; your birth story was great and I'm pleased that the op went well (despite afterwards). I felt a bit detached from DD after her birth; I think it's common, and probably not helped by CS, especially because you feel a bit anxious beforehand. Please can I ask you - how did they administer spinal and epidural - what order did they do it and did they give you a local? I'm curious because I only had a spinal last time, but I'm going to have both this time. Thank you.

JJ Massive congratulations.

Turniphead1 · 02/12/2008 09:15

Mibbes I am so excited for you. Really sounds like you will be avoiding being induced! Can't wait to hear your news.

Verso hope all goes well today.

Kayz hope something kicks off again for you today.

*Kimberley - I am at J&L for the 12 noon antenatal. Would you like to meet at 12.30 for a quick sandwich? We could do either the coffee shop inside J&L or somewhere on the High Street.

LadyT thanks so much for sharing your birth story! My friend that I saw yesterday said exacatly that feeling of expecting to but not recognising her baby (she had a section to - don't know if it is connected but she found the sight of the baby appearing "as if by magic" from behind the curtain added to this . I didn't bond immediately with DD - but it all happened in time just as it has with you and little O. I am also glad the dried apricots worked. I swear by 'em! Hope you are getting some rest. xxx

trace so glad you had a heart to heart with your DH. So much better to get how you are feeling out in the open.

kayzisexpecting · 02/12/2008 09:16

We have loads of snow. About 30 minutes from York and there is loads.

Will also be staying in all day. Might chuck DH in the snow!!!

OrangeCrush · 02/12/2008 09:24

We've got a fair bit of snow too - glad I've not had any signs of labour yet as 40 mins to hospital on a good day! DH had to turn back on way to work, but think this might be more because he wanted to be at home 'just in case' rather than he really couldn't get over the Pennines.

EffiePerine · 02/12/2008 09:31

Mibbes: good luck! Hope you're well on the way now with no need for an induction

LadyT: amazing birth story, thanks for taking the time to write it all out. I'm fascinated by the idea of a planned CS and knowing your baby will arrive, must be so nerve-racking. I wonder if hormones have anything to do with a feeling of limbo after the birth? I suppose with a VB you get that hormonal build-up to the event. Anyway, sounds like you and Octavia are settling in with each other very nicely

Verso: sorry you're back in hospital, fingers crossed for a v v speedy recovery for Frieda. Is your DH on parental leave now?

Trace: glad you talked with your DH, I'm sure he's much happier knowing what is going on. Strange how our instinct is to protect our partners when they're prob feeling exactly the same!

No snow here, just blardy freezing (though sunny). Off to Covent Garden at lunchtime for some emergency Xmas shopping

Nolda · 02/12/2008 09:36

Congratulations Lal, Tyv, ChutneyMary and Jump.

Good luck Mibbes I'll be thinking of you today.

On a different note - serving suggestion: raspberry leaf tea with a mince pie, yum.

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