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To absolutely hate this government, and what they are doing to our country?

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CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 11:30

To absolutely hate this government, and what they are doing to our country?

Strong words but is is how I feel at this point in time. All of them make me feel physically sick. The latest example -

No wonder Labour won't cut benefits. More than half of Burnham's MPs represent seats where claimant count is higher than their Commons majority

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16147745/No-wonder-Labour-wont-cut-benefits-half-Burnhams-MPs-represent-seats-claimant-count-higher-Commons-majority.html

Half of Labour MPs in seats where PIP claims are higher than majority

Some 212 Labour MPs in England and Wales have more constituents on Personal Independence Payment (PIP) than their winning margin at the 2024 general election .

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16147745/No-wonder-Labour-wont-cut-benefits-half-Burnhams-MPs-represent-seats-claimant-count-higher-Commons-majority.html

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LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 12:43

TemperanceWest · 21/09/2026 12:41

This is basically the far right Great Replacement conspiracy twaddle.🙄 Which is rooted in anti-semitism.

Yes, the far right Islamic extremists.

Sweetesttabboo · 21/09/2026 12:45

CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 11:32

More than half of Labour MPs represent seats where there is a greater number of disability benefit claimants than the size of their majority, an analysis has revealed.

Some 212 Labour MPs in England and Wales have more constituents on Personal Independence Payment (PIP) than their winning margin at the 2024 general election.

This is 58 per cent of the party's total 366 seats across the two countries, the analysis by The Times found.

So maybe those MPs understand the difficulties disabled people face?

I’m not sure what your point is.

CaptainMyCaptain · 21/09/2026 12:45

LakieLady · 21/09/2026 11:46

I've never understood why people get more conservative as they get older.

I'm 71, and probably more left wing now than I was in my twenties. My parents were always solid Labour voters too, even though they were very comfortably off. My MIL is 88, and still votes Labour, despite being "not a racist but...".

71 and still Left Wing here.

HectorPlasm · 21/09/2026 12:46

I'm increasingly of the opinion that every post Bevan UK government has been at best totally incompetent and at worst genuinely treasonous. And they've just got increasingly worse as we have a succession of MPs who've never been in the real word and operate in a rarified echo chamber of meaningless babble.

Backedoffhackedoff · 21/09/2026 12:47

The uk (and Western Europe generally) are failing powers.
It’s been 20 years in the making, I’m not sure how you’ve decided it’s the current government’s fault.
It’s globalisation, lack of innovation, and ultimately a tiny country who probably did need to lose a bit of its power on the world stage.

EasternStandard · 21/09/2026 12:47

OnlyUsername · 21/09/2026 12:40

Probably. With supporting posts saying things like Switzerland limit immigration when two months ago they rejected a far-right proposal for a population cap in the knowledge that they can't piss off the EU.

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They do have more restrictive policies generally though.

Abhannmor · 21/09/2026 12:47

Considering half the world is being destroyed by crazed despots I think a bit of perspective wouldn't hurt. Everything went to shit for over a decade after 2008. You think the likes of Farage or Lowe have some magic wand solution to it all. But I doubt it.

EasternStandard · 21/09/2026 12:48

Millytante · 21/09/2026 12:11

I thought any respectable operation such as Mumsnet bans Daily Mail links such as leads this thread.
Always consider the source!

It’s the Times that have looked into it.

CaptainMyCaptain · 21/09/2026 12:48

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 21/09/2026 12:24

Oh so you think victims should stay quiet so they don’t appear “racist”.
Bit like the grooming gangs then.

It is racist to assume any 'immigrant' is a rapist. There are white grooming gangs too.

CheeseToast17 · 21/09/2026 12:49

They are screwing over tenants, I can see they’re trying to help but they’ve now basically caused a huge loss of rental properties and condemned anyone with issues affording their rental to be tarred with a CCJ. All whilst not providing more council housing. It’s a perfect storm.

Backedoffhackedoff · 21/09/2026 12:50

smallglassbottle · 21/09/2026 12:11

Hardly tedious. People are actually living with the results. Real people. Unemployed, drug addicted, sick, unable to pay their mortgages, unable to afford rent.

Sorry these people are so tedious to you.

how does the outcome in a couple of years diff from the outcome of the last 50 years of having South Asian and Caribbean immigration in the 50s and 60s?

people said the same thing about them

RowsOfFlowers · 21/09/2026 12:50

The amount we spend on welfare is completely unsustainable

CheeseToast17 · 21/09/2026 12:50

Oh and they are taking away legal rights and protections for disabled children due to their blindsided push to have all children in mainstream.

Tomikka · 21/09/2026 12:50

Coffeeandallthebooks · 21/09/2026 11:42

The economist Richard J Murphy has estimated there is a tax gap.

Companies which shut down in the first year of trading have their tax liabilities end with them. They don't pay VAT, corporation tax, or anything else, and often the sole trader who wound them up starts a new company totally free of any tax liability.

We need to get the money we are due much more than we need to curb spending. Changing the law to make tax a personal and not company liability should be a priority.

The sum the government is missing out on is in the region of 17 billion pounds a year.

Richard Murphy has been saying this for decades. His complaint is that there are too many small businesses and we should only have big businesses

often the sole trader who wound them up starts a new company totally free of any tax liability.

If he could let HMRC know about that to “fix” the self assessment form as it keeps working out that I have tax to pay
However I’m not registered on companies house, so that could affect my ability to register / dissolve / register as opposed to my tax return which asks me about any business I undertake

What he is actually referring to is fraud. There’s this guy called Tommy who is a bit upset about HMRC taking his ex wife Jenna to court for fraud & unpaid tax. Perhaps they believed Richard

Backedoffhackedoff · 21/09/2026 12:51

CheeseToast17 · 21/09/2026 12:49

They are screwing over tenants, I can see they’re trying to help but they’ve now basically caused a huge loss of rental properties and condemned anyone with issues affording their rental to be tarred with a CCJ. All whilst not providing more council housing. It’s a perfect storm.

It has always been the case that you can get a ccj from unpaid rent.

it’s up to the landlord if they want one granted and enforced

EasternStandard · 21/09/2026 12:55

RowsOfFlowers · 21/09/2026 12:50

The amount we spend on welfare is completely unsustainable

The Times is also reporting PIP is set to double by 2030, which sounds quite steep. It’ll be £45bn a year.

Octavia64 · 21/09/2026 12:56

EasternStandard · 21/09/2026 12:47

They do have more restrictive policies generally though.

Switzerland doesn’t

It’s part of the Schengen area which has free movement.

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 12:57

Interesting that Labour is being backed by unions on spending increases among foreign nationals. That's taking money away from the public sector increases. There is some good to come of it after all.

Meadowfinch · 21/09/2026 12:57

Taking a more even handed view,......

Starmer tried to cut benefits and his mps rebelled. Welfare will have to be cut sooner or later, but this govt don't have the guts to do it, so it needs to wait either for a general election or an IMF intervention.

Rachel Reeves was completely incompetent, and has cost us a lot of jobs - including mine. We wait to see if Burnham/Healey will be any better.

Having said that, Boris & Liz Truss were both barking mad, and by the time Rishi Sunak became PM, the damage was already done. None of them, Labour ot Tory deserve to be popular.

I fear Reform will win the next GE, welfare spending will be cut significantly and the following few years will be pretty uncomfortable for a kot of people.

But, no, hating the govt makes no sense yet. They haven't decided much yet. At least wait for the budget and see what they do.

EasternStandard · 21/09/2026 12:58

Octavia64 · 21/09/2026 12:56

Switzerland doesn’t

It’s part of the Schengen area which has free movement.

More restrictive for the asylum process. Quite a few EU countries do.

ExtraOnions · 21/09/2026 13:00

I have a Labour MP
My disabled daughter get’s PIP
It supports her in college
She also has a part-time job

What is the point you are trying to make ?

luckylavender · 21/09/2026 13:00

AgentJohnson · 21/09/2026 11:38

Yeah because the nano second that Labour has been power correlates exactly with this country’s decline. 🙄

Goodness me, that's a strange conclusion. It's almost that you can't remember the 14 miserable years that came before.

Bonden · 21/09/2026 13:01

loulouljh · 21/09/2026 11:45

I agree with you whole heartedly. The country is a mess.

And the CONSERVATIVES have been in power for the vast bulk of living memory. Ffs.

BellaCriesAndThatsAlright · 21/09/2026 13:06

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You'd think they'd put all that corrupt money pouring in from dodgy sources to better use.

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