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To absolutely hate this government, and what they are doing to our country?

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CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 11:30

To absolutely hate this government, and what they are doing to our country?

Strong words but is is how I feel at this point in time. All of them make me feel physically sick. The latest example -

No wonder Labour won't cut benefits. More than half of Burnham's MPs represent seats where claimant count is higher than their Commons majority

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16147745/No-wonder-Labour-wont-cut-benefits-half-Burnhams-MPs-represent-seats-claimant-count-higher-Commons-majority.html

Half of Labour MPs in seats where PIP claims are higher than majority

Some 212 Labour MPs in England and Wales have more constituents on Personal Independence Payment (PIP) than their winning margin at the 2024 general election .

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16147745/No-wonder-Labour-wont-cut-benefits-half-Burnhams-MPs-represent-seats-claimant-count-higher-Commons-majority.html

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Iheartlibrarians · 21/09/2026 11:48

Higher than the majority- not higher than the number of people who voted for them.

GasPanic · 21/09/2026 11:50

Burham hasn't really done anything yet.

Maybe wait until at least the October budget.

MrsPernicious · 21/09/2026 11:51

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But Labour have reduced immigration by about 20% per year. While under the Cons it was rising. (ref: ONS & HoC Library)

So who is doing the social engineering?
Labour
Conservatives
Big government

Can we have some facts to back up your claims.

angelos02 · 21/09/2026 11:53

They just love spending other people's money. Take money off the workers and give it to those that don't. God forbid someone works hard and expects a completely different lifestyle to those that don't. Must even that out - make everyone about the same. Apart from the super rich.

Mrschickenlady · 21/09/2026 11:54

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Fieldmiceears · 21/09/2026 11:55

Everything was caused by the Tories. Labour have not been in power long enough to have caused any issues!!

backformoreofthesame · 21/09/2026 11:55

They won’t cut benefits - well that’s good isn’t it? Protect the poor and look to build a more equal and working society surely is the right thing

id hate to be like America where you can die if you can’t afford insulin because you lose your job through no fault of your own

I think it’s pretty sick how some people would rather others live in abject misery and poverty so they can get an extra take out each week

smallglassbottle · 21/09/2026 11:58

Yes, employment barriers are affecting young people. People thrown on the trash heap after graduating. Counting themselves lucky if they manage to get a part time job in a cafe. Fake jobs advertised online which they're expected to spend time applying for. How soul destroying.

Government whinging on about the benefits bill yet laying out the proverbial red carpet for people from violent countries who are causing fear and perpetrating violence in once reasonable communities. Then covering up the attacks.

Allowing the economy to stagnate whilst sitting on North Sea Oil.

Constantly threatening us with a war against Russia. I think they'd have a bloody party if it did happen and our youngsters were sent to be blown up fight.

Ideology before human life, as per usual. The last lot were no better of course.

angelos02 · 21/09/2026 11:59

backformoreofthesame · 21/09/2026 11:55

They won’t cut benefits - well that’s good isn’t it? Protect the poor and look to build a more equal and working society surely is the right thing

id hate to be like America where you can die if you can’t afford insulin because you lose your job through no fault of your own

I think it’s pretty sick how some people would rather others live in abject misery and poverty so they can get an extra take out each week

Benefits need reigning in - massively. Never mind scrapping the child benefit cap, scrap child benefit. Have better benefits for those that fall on hard times. But if you have children knowing full well that someone else is going to have to pay for them is so wrong.

Mrschickenlady · 21/09/2026 12:00

MrsPernicious · 21/09/2026 11:51

But Labour have reduced immigration by about 20% per year. While under the Cons it was rising. (ref: ONS & HoC Library)

So who is doing the social engineering?
Labour
Conservatives
Big government

Can we have some facts to back up your claims.

See I agree this is where the Reform lot get quite muddled.

So the argument is that Labour want more immigration... why?

It's the right wing that has been invested over the years in importing cheap workers (or, at other times, outsourcing our goods and services and buying them back in for a discount). It was a conservative programme that brought in swathes of uneducated labourers in the 70s and 80s to fill our factories because those workers wouldn't unionize. That's the legacy we still see in places like Birmingham today. I'm not blaming the people - they were offered jobs and took them. But it absolutely was not a socialist programme, it was a capitalist one aimed at breaking the unions.

And if you ask the reform lot where they'd want to live, half of them love places like Dubai - where there is one of the highest immigration rates in the world! It makes. no. sense.

The only arguments that left wing governments ideologically want more immigration ends up descending into great replacement theory nonsense which no one other than the tin hat brigade wants.

smallglassbottle · 21/09/2026 12:01

MrsPernicious · 21/09/2026 11:51

But Labour have reduced immigration by about 20% per year. While under the Cons it was rising. (ref: ONS & HoC Library)

So who is doing the social engineering?
Labour
Conservatives
Big government

Can we have some facts to back up your claims.

It's been going on since the 60s. I'm more interested in patterns of behaviour throughout society not pissing about over statistics. The trajectory is always the same regardless of numbers. Reducing a few here and a few there makes no difference to the over all picture.

soddingspiderseason · 21/09/2026 12:02

And here is today’s Burnham bashing thread. Its getting rather tedious.

soddingspiderseason · 21/09/2026 12:03

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Abject nonsense.

smallglassbottle · 21/09/2026 12:03

soddingspiderseason · 21/09/2026 12:02

And here is today’s Burnham bashing thread. Its getting rather tedious.

Perhaps people are sick of living on a sinking ship.

DreadedInn · 21/09/2026 12:04

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But why? Why would any government do that? What do you honestly believe they would be hoping to achieve?

smallglassbottle · 21/09/2026 12:04

soddingspiderseason · 21/09/2026 12:03

Abject nonsense.

Come back in a couple of years and still stand by this? We shall see.

smallglassbottle · 21/09/2026 12:05

DreadedInn · 21/09/2026 12:04

But why? Why would any government do that? What do you honestly believe they would be hoping to achieve?

Permanent demographic change.

VickyEadie · 21/09/2026 12:06

loulouljh · 21/09/2026 11:45

I agree with you whole heartedly. The country is a mess.

What do you think has caused the mess and are you of the impression it's only happened in the last 2 years?

I ask because the OP specifically blames the current government for "it".

angelos02 · 21/09/2026 12:06

DreadedInn · 21/09/2026 12:04

But why? Why would any government do that? What do you honestly believe they would be hoping to achieve?

Low skilled immigrants are more likely to be compliant, not question things, put up with low wages and bad work environments and a lower expectation of standard of living. In other words, big business welcome them.

soddingspiderseason · 21/09/2026 12:06

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Yep, there are a few of them who pop up every day with the same old schtick. That £72 million clearly buys a lot of bot time.

Fluffyholeysocks · 21/09/2026 12:07

The calibre of politicians accross the board be it Labour, Tories or other parties is very poor. I have no confidence in any of the parties at the moment. The cabinet is abysmal - no talent, no business experience and very uninspiring. I have to turn the TV off when Rayner and Phillipson come on. Cringeworthy. Could we have a technocrat Gov next please?

DreadedInn · 21/09/2026 12:08

smallglassbottle · 21/09/2026 12:05

Permanent demographic change.

For what reason?

soddingspiderseason · 21/09/2026 12:09

smallglassbottle · 21/09/2026 12:04

Come back in a couple of years and still stand by this? We shall see.

Happy to. This kind of nonsense has been going on for years. Brexit escalated it, and that was an utter shitshow. Same people making the same noises now. Tedious.

Birdnoises · 21/09/2026 12:09

The UK has public sector debt of 2,984 BILLION. (or 2.98 trillion).

That is 94% of GDP
We pay between 301 and 312 million A DAY in debt interest.

This is clearly unsustainable.

The welfare bill does need to be tackled ( amongst many other things). Apparently other countries do not have the problem with run away disability payments we do as they have a better way of assessing claimants to make sure those who really do need it, get it.

smallglassbottle · 21/09/2026 12:09

soddingspiderseason · 21/09/2026 12:06

Yep, there are a few of them who pop up every day with the same old schtick. That £72 million clearly buys a lot of bot time.

Am I a bot then? I'd like to know where my money is if I am?

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