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To absolutely hate this government, and what they are doing to our country?

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CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 11:30

To absolutely hate this government, and what they are doing to our country?

Strong words but is is how I feel at this point in time. All of them make me feel physically sick. The latest example -

No wonder Labour won't cut benefits. More than half of Burnham's MPs represent seats where claimant count is higher than their Commons majority

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16147745/No-wonder-Labour-wont-cut-benefits-half-Burnhams-MPs-represent-seats-claimant-count-higher-Commons-majority.html

Half of Labour MPs in seats where PIP claims are higher than majority

Some 212 Labour MPs in England and Wales have more constituents on Personal Independence Payment (PIP) than their winning margin at the 2024 general election .

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16147745/No-wonder-Labour-wont-cut-benefits-half-Burnhams-MPs-represent-seats-claimant-count-higher-Commons-majority.html

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Millytante · 21/09/2026 12:11

Mrschickenlady · 21/09/2026 12:00

See I agree this is where the Reform lot get quite muddled.

So the argument is that Labour want more immigration... why?

It's the right wing that has been invested over the years in importing cheap workers (or, at other times, outsourcing our goods and services and buying them back in for a discount). It was a conservative programme that brought in swathes of uneducated labourers in the 70s and 80s to fill our factories because those workers wouldn't unionize. That's the legacy we still see in places like Birmingham today. I'm not blaming the people - they were offered jobs and took them. But it absolutely was not a socialist programme, it was a capitalist one aimed at breaking the unions.

And if you ask the reform lot where they'd want to live, half of them love places like Dubai - where there is one of the highest immigration rates in the world! It makes. no. sense.

The only arguments that left wing governments ideologically want more immigration ends up descending into great replacement theory nonsense which no one other than the tin hat brigade wants.

I thought any respectable operation such as Mumsnet bans Daily Mail links such as leads this thread.
Always consider the source!

smallglassbottle · 21/09/2026 12:11

soddingspiderseason · 21/09/2026 12:09

Happy to. This kind of nonsense has been going on for years. Brexit escalated it, and that was an utter shitshow. Same people making the same noises now. Tedious.

Hardly tedious. People are actually living with the results. Real people. Unemployed, drug addicted, sick, unable to pay their mortgages, unable to afford rent.

Sorry these people are so tedious to you.

Octavia64 · 21/09/2026 12:14

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I believe it is now government policy to not put migrants up in hotels after the protests and general upset.

i understand that rented houses are being used eg in Thetford recently an address where asylum seekers were living was made known to the general public.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cedjxjypv30o

the government is apparently also looking at other possibilities including ex mod sites - see eg piddingron in Oxfordshire where a local was recently quoted as saying it made hotels sound like a good idea.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckz7zyn1lwypo

People are gathered in the street outside a property. A row of police officers are visible outside the house. Some of the people are wearing hoodies and holding mobile phones.

How asylum protests brought disorder to Thetford

People in Thetford describe how tensions over asylum seekers boiled over into violence.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cedjxjypv30o

BlossomLeaves · 21/09/2026 12:16

I hate what Brexit, the captured media and lack of critical thinking has done to this country, the actions of the current government less so.

Icanthinkformyselfthanks · 21/09/2026 12:20

CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 11:35

Why is Labour destroying jobs?

Pat McFadden, Labour's Work and Pensions Secretary (July 26 probably changed now can't keep up), says the government should help people into employment instead of simply paying benefits. But how can Labour promise more jobs while supporting economic policies designed to suppress demand and increase unemployment?

https://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2026/07/17/whys-labour-destroying-jobs/#gsc.tab=0

@CoventryCity , as I’m sure you must be well aware Mumsnet is very left wing so the amount of YANBUs you’ve received is encouraging. None of it makes sense because socialist governments don’t move from a logical perspective but an ideological one. You can see the idiocy in their policies but that doesn’t matter to them or their voters who’s ideological aim is to punish the ‘rich’; which is to say anyone who has more than they do. It seems they would rather everyone was equally poor rather than everyone being better off but some people being very wealthy. Eventually, as always happens enough of those who voted them in will be negatively impacted by their damaging policies and they will be voted out leaving the next government an almighty task to put the country back on a healthy trajectory. Before anyone brings up Rachael Reeves mythical black hole I should remind people that the previous Conservative administration was fiscally hammered by COVID and a global financial crash.

Happyjoe · 21/09/2026 12:23

Selective labour bashing again! Have a look at their progress in a calm manner.

https://fullfact.org/government-tracker/

Just yesterday press release about specialised 'rape courts', to speed up the backlog of cases and as a woman, I found that good news. These are things they are doing right.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5lympv9nw3jo

While Labour are making mistakes, I don't think they are given credit for things they are doing and trying to do. Everyone too expects instant results despite the absolute mess they inherited from the last gov who trashed our country completely and didn't even try to make it better. Labour too have a couple of wars to contend with, none of this makes easy governing.

Government Tracker – Full Fact

Full Fact is monitoring the government’s delivery on its promises

https://fullfact.org/government-tracker/

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 21/09/2026 12:24

sharksnip · 21/09/2026 11:33

Ooohh we are early with the benefit bashing and racist posts today. Morning everyone lol

Oh so you think victims should stay quiet so they don’t appear “racist”.
Bit like the grooming gangs then.

soddingspiderseason · 21/09/2026 12:25

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EasternStandard · 21/09/2026 12:25

smallglassbottle · 21/09/2026 12:09

Am I a bot then? I'd like to know where my money is if I am?

It’s standard from a few don’t worry.

BoredZelda · 21/09/2026 12:27

CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 11:32

More than half of Labour MPs represent seats where there is a greater number of disability benefit claimants than the size of their majority, an analysis has revealed.

Some 212 Labour MPs in England and Wales have more constituents on Personal Independence Payment (PIP) than their winning margin at the 2024 general election.

This is 58 per cent of the party's total 366 seats across the two countries, the analysis by The Times found.

Labour voters tend to be more likely to live in poorer areas. Disabled people are more likely to be poor. Right wing parties have targeted disabled people for decades. Disabled people tend to believe more in things like inclusion. Why are you surprised about this statistic?

Femalemachinest · 21/09/2026 12:28

angelos02 · 21/09/2026 11:59

Benefits need reigning in - massively. Never mind scrapping the child benefit cap, scrap child benefit. Have better benefits for those that fall on hard times. But if you have children knowing full well that someone else is going to have to pay for them is so wrong.

Agree. Loop holes need sorting out. I have a team leader on just less than 40k, he openly tells us he puts so much in his pension he takes home the same as a general op. His partner doesnt work, they have 4 kids, all now at school. He should be living off his wages not tucking it away and taking top ups. Someone else has dropped a days work because they now have a child so they get top ups and doesnt make much difference to them.

OnlyUsername · 21/09/2026 12:30

Those sources saw you coming, OP.

MyManinCaracas · 21/09/2026 12:32

sharksnip · 21/09/2026 11:33

Ooohh we are early with the benefit bashing and racist posts today. Morning everyone lol

Do you think it’s racist when other countries limit immigration? Like Japan, Australia, New Zealand. Switzerland?

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 12:32

CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 11:40

Please highlight where there is racism so I can report it to MN (and so that your post makes sense), Thanks.

(lol)

Are you surprised you've been accused of that - again?

EasternStandard · 21/09/2026 12:33

OnlyUsername · 21/09/2026 12:30

Those sources saw you coming, OP.

It’s initially in the Times not DM. But not everyone can access that.

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 12:34

Labour have their voters to appease - they keep their MPs in jobs, being so generous with handouts.

SecretDressAgent · 21/09/2026 12:35

soddingspiderseason · 21/09/2026 12:02

And here is today’s Burnham bashing thread. Its getting rather tedious.

Are we not allowed to criticise?
Would you like a Ministry of truth and we must sign up to it?

TemperanceWest · 21/09/2026 12:35

Is this going to end up like a previous thread which was OP posting endless links and cut and pastes to articles about crimes committed by Muslim asylum seekers?

BigBilly · 21/09/2026 12:39

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Victims of attacks at the hands of migrants are far lower than in the general population you (at least) xenophobe

OnlyUsername · 21/09/2026 12:40

TemperanceWest · 21/09/2026 12:35

Is this going to end up like a previous thread which was OP posting endless links and cut and pastes to articles about crimes committed by Muslim asylum seekers?

Probably. With supporting posts saying things like Switzerland limit immigration when two months ago they rejected a far-right proposal for a population cap in the knowledge that they can't piss off the EU.

TemperanceWest · 21/09/2026 12:41

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This is basically the far right Great Replacement conspiracy twaddle.🙄 Which is rooted in anti-semitism.

Femalemachinest · 21/09/2026 12:42

angelos02 · 21/09/2026 12:06

Low skilled immigrants are more likely to be compliant, not question things, put up with low wages and bad work environments and a lower expectation of standard of living. In other words, big business welcome them.

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Not necessarily. I worked in a factory with a lot of Eastern Europeans and a lot moaned about money, even though money was above nmw. I work with a Polish lady now who constantly moans about her wage, again above nmw and she has been on multiple holidays this year

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 12:42

Millytante · 21/09/2026 12:11

I thought any respectable operation such as Mumsnet bans Daily Mail links such as leads this thread.
Always consider the source!

Fascism is alive and kicking.

MsGreying · 21/09/2026 12:43

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It's already changed.

Look at the gov stats on ethnicity of school children.

The UK has no economic growth and labour taxing more and more is not going to help anyone.

Rachelshair · 21/09/2026 12:43

And how many Conservative seats have pensioners outnumbering their majority? State pension is also a "benefit."
Are you saying that benefit claimants shouldn't vote? That disqualifies everyone over age 66 from voting, for a start.

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