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To absolutely hate this government, and what they are doing to our country?

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CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 11:30

To absolutely hate this government, and what they are doing to our country?

Strong words but is is how I feel at this point in time. All of them make me feel physically sick. The latest example -

No wonder Labour won't cut benefits. More than half of Burnham's MPs represent seats where claimant count is higher than their Commons majority

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16147745/No-wonder-Labour-wont-cut-benefits-half-Burnhams-MPs-represent-seats-claimant-count-higher-Commons-majority.html

Half of Labour MPs in seats where PIP claims are higher than majority

Some 212 Labour MPs in England and Wales have more constituents on Personal Independence Payment (PIP) than their winning margin at the 2024 general election .

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16147745/No-wonder-Labour-wont-cut-benefits-half-Burnhams-MPs-represent-seats-claimant-count-higher-Commons-majority.html

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Wowwee1234 · Yesterday 00:18

sharksnip · 21/09/2026 11:33

Ooohh we are early with the benefit bashing and racist posts today. Morning everyone lol

About the tine the russian bots kick in

Meandthegherkin · Yesterday 00:22

There’s a weird vibe to this thread. Too much sneering from all sides. Mumsnet is turning into the place to go if you want the same old
bollocks you get everywhere else.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · Yesterday 01:05

Brudffaa · 21/09/2026 21:43

Then what does it mean to be a citizen then?

Being a citizen of the UK should be sacred and actually mean something.

The welfare state and all benefits are finite. The UK should always prioritise UK citizens. If someone has ILR, they can always apply for citizenship to be fully commited to Britain.

As a UK citizen this is a sort of country I'd fully be happy with living in (because I'm a citizen).

Since when has being a citizen been all about the right to claim benefits? That seems quite an arbitrary definition to me, and I'm really surprised that you think being a citizen would be meaningless if non-citizens could claim benefits.

I do agree that citizenship should mean something but it's rather sad if the only meaning ascribed to it is measured in terms of what you can get from the state and who else can get it. I had always assumed that it meant something much deeper than that.

LadyWhistledownsSocietyPapers · Yesterday 01:51

Scotter · 21/09/2026 22:20

Is cash going to help an addict out though? I know someone who blames cash benefits for killing get alcoholic father. Surely the money would be better spent on rehab centres, the ONLY thing that seems to work in helping rid themselves of their addiction for good.

We need to stop the cash handouts and provide services instead. People who need a sophisticated wheelchair shouldn’t be grubbing around saving cash each month, they should be given the wheelchair instead. Depressed people should be given jobs and therapy, not cash. Addicts should be given rehab. We need to turn people who could work into workers, not just write them off. That would leave more money for those who genuinely will never work.

I didn't mean at all cash is going to help addicts, just that I wonder if that's why there is a rise in pip claimants.

Schlossadler · Yesterday 06:43

countrygirl99 · 21/09/2026 19:12

Mine hasn't either.

Which simply indicates you and the PP
don’t have any meaningful income/investments
etc.

Schlossadler · Yesterday 06:45

Hellohelga · 21/09/2026 23:07

I’m not sure we should be engaging in this chat. I don’t think the OP is ok and this is just stoking her.

Feel free not to, then.

TTFN.

Tooobvious · Yesterday 06:57

CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 22:02

It emerged in June 2026 that almost one in ten Brits receive personal independence payments (PIP) in England and Wales, with 108 local authority areas out of 318 coming in above one in ten.

If anyone believes that 1 in 10 English / Welsh people are actually disabled - they're kidding themselves.

No one is saying that those who need it shouldn't get it. No one says that (I hope).

But those that are taking the piss need to be stopped. 6.2 million people are not disabled. For eg. Mild autism is not a disability, mild ADHD is not a disability. Not wanting to leave the house is not a disability. etc.

Edited

But what has any of that got to do with a Labour government? Do you really think those people all got diagnoses and subsequent payments in the two years 2024 (when a Labour government was elected) to 2026?

Does it not make a lot more sense to hold responsible the governments in power for the previous 14 years? You know, the Conservatives ones?

I look forward to reading your explanation, @CoventryCity .

CatkinToadflax · Yesterday 06:58

I’d be fascinated to know if the OP would regard my DS as disabled. He has four limbs. Certainly the nitwit appointed by Labour to do his LCWRA assessment seemed to think he was capable of work. Fortunately the assessor’s decision was so silly that it was fast tracked for mandatory reconsideration and overturned.

BIossomtoes · Yesterday 07:02

Schlossadler · Yesterday 06:43

Which simply indicates you and the PP
don’t have any meaningful income/investments
etc.

Here you go making assumptions again. No personal tax rate has increased since July 2024. Obviously if you can link to a reliable source if you have evidence this is incorrect.

Pu33l35h0p · Yesterday 07:05

I think they’re doing a great job, more in a couple of years than the other lot did in 14- making progress with the boats, highlighting some of the dire
outcomes from Tory policies and working towards sorting them as opposed to ignoring or causing them.

A summary below:-
Economy and Workers' Rights

  • Employment Legislation: Enacted the Employment Rights Act, banning fire-and-rehire practices, introducing statutory sick pay from day one, and reducing the unfair dismissal qualifying period.
  • National Living Wage: Increased the wage floor, alongside adjustments to public sector pay.
  • Investment & Funds: Established the National Wealth Fund to help drive green private-sector investment and introduced fiscal stability rules.
Health and Social Care
  • NHS Appointments: Delivered millions of additional appointments and expanded recruitment for neighbourhood GPs and mental health workers.
  • Industrial Relations: Resolved prolonged junior doctor and consultant strikes that had heavily impacted waiting lists.
Housing and Infrastructure
  • Renters' Rights: Passed the Renters' Rights Act, implementing a ban on section 21 "no-fault" evictions and creating a national landlord register.
  • Energy: Launched Great British Energy (GB Energy), lifted planning restrictions on onshore wind, and unblocked major solar power schemes.
  • Transport: Began the legislative and operational process of bringing passenger rail services back into public ownership.
Migration and Border Control
  • Border Security: Formed a new Border Security Command backed by dedicated funding and officially terminated the previous government's Rwanda partnership scheme.
  • Net Migration: Recorded notable downward shifts in overall net migration figures alongside sharp reductions in skilled worker visa grants over the two-year window.

So grateful we’ve got Labour in power as opposed to Kemi no policies and grifter Trump idolising Farage.

JasmineMac · Yesterday 07:19

Labour are as effective as the tories were. I can't stand any of them. Chances are that Reform would/will be no better.
The cliched way you've presented your stance is probably why most have voted that you're being unreasonable. Still, it's indicative of the apathy that people for whom, the majority in all likelihood falling into this category, life is one long exercise in making ends meet are choosing to defend the government. The political landscape in the UK is awful.

countrygirl99 · Yesterday 07:22

Schlossadler · Yesterday 06:43

Which simply indicates you and the PP
don’t have any meaningful income/investments
etc.

Enough to fund several holidays a year including mong haul, a horse and other expensive hobbies and be well into the IHT bracket. Maybe you just aren't financially savvy

EasternStandard · Yesterday 07:39

Pu33l35h0p · Yesterday 07:05

I think they’re doing a great job, more in a couple of years than the other lot did in 14- making progress with the boats, highlighting some of the dire
outcomes from Tory policies and working towards sorting them as opposed to ignoring or causing them.

A summary below:-
Economy and Workers' Rights

  • Employment Legislation: Enacted the Employment Rights Act, banning fire-and-rehire practices, introducing statutory sick pay from day one, and reducing the unfair dismissal qualifying period.
  • National Living Wage: Increased the wage floor, alongside adjustments to public sector pay.
  • Investment & Funds: Established the National Wealth Fund to help drive green private-sector investment and introduced fiscal stability rules.
Health and Social Care
  • NHS Appointments: Delivered millions of additional appointments and expanded recruitment for neighbourhood GPs and mental health workers.
  • Industrial Relations: Resolved prolonged junior doctor and consultant strikes that had heavily impacted waiting lists.
Housing and Infrastructure
  • Renters' Rights: Passed the Renters' Rights Act, implementing a ban on section 21 "no-fault" evictions and creating a national landlord register.
  • Energy: Launched Great British Energy (GB Energy), lifted planning restrictions on onshore wind, and unblocked major solar power schemes.
  • Transport: Began the legislative and operational process of bringing passenger rail services back into public ownership.
Migration and Border Control
  • Border Security: Formed a new Border Security Command backed by dedicated funding and officially terminated the previous government's Rwanda partnership scheme.
  • Net Migration: Recorded notable downward shifts in overall net migration figures alongside sharp reductions in skilled worker visa grants over the two-year window.

So grateful we’ve got Labour in power as opposed to Kemi no policies and grifter Trump idolising Farage.

Even with these lists from Labour the main problem they face is cost of borrowing. Figures out today:

It meant that the Treasury has borrowed £77.3bn since April, which is £8.1bn higher than the projections by the Office for Budget Responsibility back in March

That £8.1bn means they’ve got their fiscal headroom problem again.

BIWI · Yesterday 08:07

Ah yes, the 'what did the Romans ever do for us?' spiel.

BIossomtoes · Yesterday 08:14

EasternStandard · Yesterday 07:39

Even with these lists from Labour the main problem they face is cost of borrowing. Figures out today:

It meant that the Treasury has borrowed £77.3bn since April, which is £8.1bn higher than the projections by the Office for Budget Responsibility back in March

That £8.1bn means they’ve got their fiscal headroom problem again.

Remind me what happened at the end of February - didn’t Trump attack Iran and throw the world into financial turmoil? Has that passed you by?

Dreamcatcherat50 · Yesterday 08:16

CoventryCity · 21/09/2026 14:45

Well I could name change, like a lot of the cowardly folk do (you know the ones don't ya). Alas poor Yorick tis me and I am not ashamed to say it. If only others were more.... transparent..

You walk around town centres wearing a flag t shirt with a camera strapped to your chest don't you.

CoventryCity · Yesterday 08:21

I should say, so as not be to biased ; ), I've recently discovered that Labour have done one good thing. I found out, purely by chance; astonishingly as one would hope this would have been widely advertised by Labour. The Sure Start programme for <5s has been restarted (and rebranded Best Start). This is excellent news. Books and reading are so very important for children from birth (yes from birth),

From Wiki as I can't find anything else - 'In 2024, the Conservative Government opened 400 new family hubs across 75 local authorities, which offer a wider range of services than previous Sure Start centres. In 2025, Sure Start was rebranded as Best Start and relaunched by the Labour Government of Keir Starmer, which announced an expansion of Best Start family hubs to cover every local authority in England, with £500 million allocated to create Best Start Services including Best Start Hubs. The plans aim for a total of 1,000 hubs to be open by 2028.'

So I concede that they've done one good thing. Even if piggybacking on Rishi starting it up again (should never have been cancelled)

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CoventryCity · Yesterday 08:23

Dreamcatcherat50 · Yesterday 08:16

You walk around town centres wearing a flag t shirt with a camera strapped to your chest don't you.

OMG 😍- you Know Me

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TemperanceWest · Yesterday 08:26

CoventryCity · Yesterday 08:23

OMG 😍- you Know Me

Do you also enjoy wearing black shorts?

CoventryCity · Yesterday 08:30

Meandthegherkin · Yesterday 00:22

There’s a weird vibe to this thread. Too much sneering from all sides. Mumsnet is turning into the place to go if you want the same old
bollocks you get everywhere else.

I know what you mean. Sorry if I have contributed to that, sometimes posters (it's always the same ones often with name changes) try and grind you down to a mere speck of sand on a deserted Arabian landscape, from which to rebuild. I have a problem this morning also where we have run out of milk. That means no coffee yet, that is not ideal!

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CoventryCity · Yesterday 08:32

TemperanceWest · Yesterday 08:26

Do you also enjoy wearing black shorts?

I would - to fit in - but shorts do nothing for me. So I make do with bright pink cord culottes.

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pointythings · Yesterday 08:33

CoventryCity · Yesterday 08:30

I know what you mean. Sorry if I have contributed to that, sometimes posters (it's always the same ones often with name changes) try and grind you down to a mere speck of sand on a deserted Arabian landscape, from which to rebuild. I have a problem this morning also where we have run out of milk. That means no coffee yet, that is not ideal!

Drink black coffee. Invest in really good filter coffee and drink it black. Delicious. Also no calories.

EasternStandard · Yesterday 08:34

CoventryCity · Yesterday 08:30

I know what you mean. Sorry if I have contributed to that, sometimes posters (it's always the same ones often with name changes) try and grind you down to a mere speck of sand on a deserted Arabian landscape, from which to rebuild. I have a problem this morning also where we have run out of milk. That means no coffee yet, that is not ideal!

Ha I like the phrasing.

hedgeknight · Yesterday 08:38

Schlossadler · Yesterday 06:43

Which simply indicates you and the PP
don’t have any meaningful income/investments
etc.

Yours are in Swiss banks?

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 08:46

CoventryCity · Yesterday 08:32

I would - to fit in - but shorts do nothing for me. So I make do with bright pink cord culottes.

Now don't go turning all leftie on us! We rely on your common sense to get us through the day.

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