To think my neighbour is selfish tw*t for lighting a fire

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Ok so how many people, after receiving a government alert about wild fires asking them not to have fires in their garden, would then in fact go against that and light a big F off fire in their garden, well that would be my next door neighbour! We all live in close proximity in terraced houses and my neighbour thinks it’s a good idea to light a fire. The fact the fire is (for now) contained in a make shift fire pit makes no difference, I mean it’s twa**ish behaviour right?

It's not advisory, it's a warning not to do it.

Even if he believes this is 100% safe, surely he must realise that his neighbours can't know that and are going to be terrified?

Dont be fooled, the majority of the population are fine ( or thereabouts) its the 1% of absolute brain dead idiots that cause the most problems. We're working nationaly on a solution, give us time 😀

My neighbour also had a fire in their garden this evening.. Unbelievable. I saw the smoke and looked over the fence. Male neighbour was there, so I said I was worried when I saw the smoke what with all the wildfires. He looked embarrassed. idiot.

Call the council or police or something I would

That will be because it's still perfectly legal to use BBQs. It's only disposable BBQs (which have a much higjer risk profile) that have been banned from sale.

No, it's still perfectly legal to have a BBQ, and a responsibly sited, attended garden BBQ is perfectly safe. Disposable BBQs have been banned as they are a far higher fire risk.

A bonfire in the garden is also not safe and rather foolish.

Might be tempted to use the hose (illegally).

I realise that, but from a PR perspective (both local and national) I would have thought their head would have said to pull them off the shelves. After all, charcoal isn’t perishable.

I’d report and turn a hose on it. Don’t want my house burnt down

I would have been round there asking him to put it out, and reporting it to the local fire officer and the council.

I've cancelled my birthday BBQ and we're going out for a family meal instead.

But why? People stll want to have barbeques and buy charcoal. It's not up to shops to start making up false rules and restricting the sale of BBQ items. BBQing in the garden is perfectly legal and safe as long as you don't use the high fire risk disposables. Promoting the low fire risk, legally allowed alternative instead is surely responsible?

Some people just can't stand being told what to do.

We saw it all over the place during covid.

The minute someone says 'don't do that' they get all blustery about being controlled and will do the opposite.

I’m not sure it is that safe to use a charcoal bbq. In most European countries they have fire bans in the summer. This includes charcoal bbqs because they know a spark can fly a long way. And gardens are just as dry as country areas at the moment, as the people in the house near me that burned down found out.

Right, but you realise that you've not been appointed as 'Minister for BBQ bans' and what you think is safe' is completely irrelevant. Garden BBQs, sited and used responsibly do not pose a high fire risk, and therefore it is both legal and reasonable to continue to use them regardless of what JudgyMcJudgerson erroneously thinks.

I don't see anyone refusing to comply with the perfectly reasonable ban on the use and sale of high fire risk disposible BBQs.

What's hugely irritating is people making up their own unneccessary rules and trying to stop people safely and responsibly using their low fire risk BBQs in their gardens which continues to be both a legal and reasonable thing to do. And then adding in a tonne of jugement and misplaced moral superiority.

If you think people shouldn't be using garden BBQs, all that proves is that you have an inability to interpret information, and/or you cannot undertake a reasonable risk assessment. Whilst you might think it makes you come across as morally superior, it actually makes you look rather foolish.

The thread is about someone setting a fire in their garden.

If you haven't even read the opening post I'm not sure why you're posting such a length diatribe about garden barbecues.

Oh dear. I have read the opening post, and my previous comments do cover that I don't think a fire is safe (perhaps you should fully read the thread.)

My comments about BBQ are directly in response to, and quote, posts about BBQs. How embarrassing for you.

IMO some people go ahead and do things that they’re asked or told NOT to, at least partly because they’re forbidden. It’s a sticking two fingers up, ‘Nobody’s going to tell ME what to do!’ attitude - sadly not uncommon, especially among certain types which I had better not name here.

I'm not embarrassed.

Why would I be when you singled out my response which was in reply to the OP about a neighbour lighting a FIRE to have a go at me about barbecues when I hadn't referenced them at all.

I wasn't talking to you or about barbecues. I was replying to the OP and not about barbecues, about fires.

Since the thread had moved on to talking about BBQs and your post was sandwiched between posts talking about BBQs, it seems reasonable to presume you were continuing the conversation, rather than randomly skipping back to an earlier part of the thread without referencing it.

However, your point that I should read the OP was somewhat foolish, since if you'd read the thread you would have seen that I'd referenced and replied to the fire risk in an earlier post. Probably best just to accept your error and move on rather than keep doubling down on your mistake.

He’ll probably report you for using a hose.

You can contact firestoppers (like crime stoppers) and report him: 0800 169 5558 or fill in a firm on forms.iline.co.uk

No one with any common sense or respect for neighbours should be lighting fires or using bbq equipment. Low risk, even very low risk, isn’t no risk. The Fire Service asked for that warning to go out because they are so worried and they are the ones in the front line. It only takes one spark when the ground is this dry.