To think my neighbour is selfish tw*t for lighting a fire

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Ok so how many people, after receiving a government alert about wild fires asking them not to have fires in their garden, would then in fact go against that and light a big F off fire in their garden, well that would be my next door neighbour! We all live in close proximity in terraced houses and my neighbour thinks it’s a good idea to light a fire. The fact the fire is (for now) contained in a make shift fire pit makes no difference, I mean it’s twa**ish behaviour right?

It’s not true. It’s just a straw man the poster has pulled together in their head

The general public, on the whole, isn’t very intelligent. So why oh why did they not just put no barbecue?

The only inference you can possibly make is that they chose not to actively discourage a normal barbecue. They took the extra effort to include the word disposable (which yes do have a higher fire risk, but would have been covered by just the word barbecue).

I won’t be having a barbecue, but I can forgive anyone for making that logical leap based on the warning alone.

Because garden bbqs don’t present the same risk. On another thread an Australian poster (well experienced in wildfires, unlike us) said that there they have fire bans (legally mandated not just sending a text message 😂) and that doesn’t include non disposable bbqs, and people continue to have them at the normal rate Aussies do

you talk about the public not being intelligent but has it occurred to you that despite your intelligence the fire service know what they’re doing and chose their wording from a place of knowledge not “intelligence” ??

I wouldn't engage with him, just report to 101 and let them deal with it. He's an idiot .

Sorry this started with me saying a BBQ isn’t “forbidden” under the warning. It is a sensible logical leap that normal garden barbecues are okay, and if they weren’t they should have explicitly said so - I think my tone in this follow up might be lost! (I was getting at the point they very consciously chose not to say just barbecue!)

I won’t be having a barbecue mostly because I have no BBQ food in and had one on Thursday… but I won’t be judging anyone who does! (And I’m pretty sure the fire risk from my lidded gas bbq is pretty minimal, I just won’t go out of my way to use it out of spite).

Fair enough!

In the next town over from me a man decided to have a bonfire in his garden and ended up buring down his AND his neighbour's houses. What an absolute cunt.

While I think that lighting a fire is a very bad idea at this time, I also think that Partygate has a lot to answer for here, with people not believing, trusting or respecting government roolz.

I thought mine was bad w his hosepipe use. He’s a twat anyway. I’d be reporting his use (was tempted to report mine re the hosepipe but at least it’s not a danger).

101 report?

@MayaPyjama I agree it's only until it has a good spell of rain then people can go for their lives with BBQ why take the risk ? Why worry the neighbours ?

We are not Oz and have not had exposure to their kind of fire messaging and other messaging.

@Lentilcakes beyond selfish unless he has an exemption ...however he may also be helping to dsmpen down foliage fire risk.

The water companies mis management and lack of proper infrastructure investment has helped this massive hole we are in now.

The police recommend not calling police.

They are being overloaded by people complaining about neighbours having bbq & bonfires.

It's a neighbor dispute which goes through your council.

Yes it's highly stupid & irresponsible but it's not a crime.

No as it's not a crime & not an emergency.

Our local police have put social media posts asking people not to tie up the 101 & 999 services.

It would be a complaint via the council.

All you can do is speak to the neighbour and keep an eye on the hire & call 999 if it is getting out of control.

The yin hat brigade all turned the emergency alerts off because they wouldn't want to know about a nuclear attack so are therefore oblivious to the actual state of emergency

I do understand the police and fire bridgade saying this but going thru the council ?? That's a long winded burocratic nightmare !! Your house woukd be destroyed by fire by the time Brian in environmental health picks up the email !

I am no snitch but that, I would report

It's not a crime & not an emergency so there is nothing police can do if the fire is under control.

It's an environmental nuisance which goes through the council.

I think they should have gone further & made it an offence but thats not straightforward or quick to do

They will probably look at passing laws like in Australia that make it an offence when they issue a 'no fire' mandate.

People calling 101 are putting a strain on the service & that's the advice they are giving out.

If the fire is out of control or spreading then 999 straight away.

Please don't call 101. It is putting a strain on the system.

The fire brigade & police are asking you not to do this. It is placing a strain on their services & risks a delay to emergency responses

There is no fire in a gas bbq

@Portmore in these conditions that's the point ...not a dire emergency until moments later one spark sets it off

@UniquePinkSwan ours has flames

I worked in the fire service control room for 20 years. ALWAYS call the fire brigade to report a fire. If you call the police they will call the fire brigade and all you’ve done is delay the reporting. In busy times which we call spate conditions calls are prioritised and others are queued. The caller would be questioned to determine the risk. They may send an officer out to assess or an appliance. Please never think because they are busy you won’t call and add to that burden. Fire can and does spread really quickly. We had a call to a garden fire which was 2 minutes from the fire station. By the time the appliance had arrived it had spread to the fence, the shed and then the roof of the house. What started as a one appliance incident that would have been dealt with in minutes ended up being a lengthy incident involving multiple appliances and officers.