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AIBU for refusing to straighten my kids hair for my brothers wedding?

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dramaisalifestyle · Today 09:34

Next week is my brother's wedding. We are all super excited to welcome my sister-in-law to the family. Obviously this wedding has been planned for months now and up until yesterday I was under the assumption that my kids hairstyle during the wedding didn't really matter.

I have two DC (8 year old daughter, 4 year old son). They are half black, half white. I'm white, as is my extended family. My kids have really curly hair, my daughter has 4A hair and my son has 4B hair.

Yesterday my kids re-tried their outfits for the wedding, just to make sure the outfits still fit. My SIL asked for confirmation, so I sent her a text and I said that the kids outfits still fit. That's when she sent me a text in response asking me if I can straighten my daughters hair for the wedding, and if possible can I straighten my sons hair aswell. Now I've never straightened my kids hair in order to avoid heat damage, they are way too young to understand the damage that straightening their hair can cause. So I told my SIL that I'm not comfortable straightening their hair, but if she has any hairstyles in mind that would work for curly hair, just let me know.

She didn't respond for like 30 minutes. And then when she did respond she said that she thinks it's quite rude for me to try and dictate her wedding. And that she expects their hair to be straight on her wedding day. She said she won't tolerate their hair not being straight for the wedding.

I also got a text from my DM telling me to keep the peace and to just straighten their hair for this one occasion. However, I'm still reusing to straighten their hair, it's really unhealthy for their hair especially when they are too young to understand.

AIBU?

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cloudtreecarpet · Today 11:35

Your SIL-to-be (there's still time...) is undoubtedly being completely racist here but also, if I were you, I would be absolutely incensed by the way in which she is making this outrageous request, saying she "won't tolerate" your children's natural curly hair.

Honestly, who the hell does she think she is? She's just an ordinary person who sounds quite unpleasant but has found someone to marry her all the same and is carrying on like she's royalty or something.

She sounds racist and just plain horrible tbh and, if I were you, I would be upset my brother was marrying someone like that.

IMTHECRAZYOLDLADY · Today 11:36

I’d curl my whole family’s hair, just to be petty

HoppingPavlova · Today 11:36

@Goldengamer Some keep them neat with braids and beads , some wild and free , a good friend of mine who is white and her hubby is black , says her daughter won’t sit still long enough to have it tidy so it’s really just a frizzy bouncy fluff ball which actually suits her but if she was a bridesmaid/ flower girl, I would want it toned down a bit

You are looking at ‘neat’ through a white lens. If hair doesn’t comply with your white lens, you think it is ‘wild’ and ‘not tidy’. That’s racist. As is wanting natural hair, which happens to be a ‘frizzy bouncy fluff ball’ “toned down”. Racist as fuck.

dramaisalifestyle · Today 11:37

Mushr00mMagee · Today 11:31

I wouldn’t at all, unless he particularly wants to. This is your chance to show your children how to advocate for themselves and their natural beauty. Plus, if you let SIL take an inch now this will never go away. She won’t stop being racist overnight, if you change your kids hair it cements her viewpoint that she had to ‘neaten’ (whiten) things up. I wouldn’t do anything.

I'd only give my son a man bun if he wanted a man bun! He gets major FOMO so if he sees everybody having cool hairstyles for the wedding he will probably want a hairstyle too 🤣

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AvoidingSelfieSticks · Today 11:37

user1492757084 · Today 11:12

Just politely say No, you have never learnt to straighten their hair, given it is so delightful.

I was a flowergirl and it is VERY common for bride to just have a vision of hair style for attendants. We all had different hair but we sat in row at the hair dresser and all walked out with similar smooth high buns with bows on front, and the same nail polish.

Stand your ground but I really don't think your new SIL is meaning to insult anyone.

Suggest that she hires a hair dresser for the morning.

Practise using control products that keep your kid's hair how you like it.

We all had different hair but we sat in row at the hair dresser and all walked out with similar smooth high buns with bows on front, and the same nail polish.
Stand your ground but I really don't think your new SIL is meaning to insult anyone

Really? The bride has not asked the white curtly-haired child to straighten her hair.

Heronwatcher · Today 11:38

https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/63399563

You might want to suggest your brother reads this. I would suggest the SIL too but she’s probably too stupid to understand it (despite it being CBeebies)! Basically it confirms that for a school, banning certain hairstyles or calling them things like “exotic” can constitute discrimination under the Equality Act.

(And yes I know the bride isn’t a public authority but it’s the principle of the issue that this illustrates).

girl-with-afro.

Afro hair: New discrimination guidance for schools published

The Equality and Human Rights Commission have published new guidance for schools, which says that pupils must not be stopped from wearing natural Afro styles at school

https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/63399563

cloudtreecarpet · Today 11:38

HoppingPavlova · Today 11:36

@Goldengamer Some keep them neat with braids and beads , some wild and free , a good friend of mine who is white and her hubby is black , says her daughter won’t sit still long enough to have it tidy so it’s really just a frizzy bouncy fluff ball which actually suits her but if she was a bridesmaid/ flower girl, I would want it toned down a bit

You are looking at ‘neat’ through a white lens. If hair doesn’t comply with your white lens, you think it is ‘wild’ and ‘not tidy’. That’s racist. As is wanting natural hair, which happens to be a ‘frizzy bouncy fluff ball’ “toned down”. Racist as fuck.

Absolutely!
And starting off saying "lots of my friends are mixed race"...

Honestly, it's shameful.

dramaisalifestyle · Today 11:38

Merryoldgoat · Today 11:32

Please do this - I love a man bun. My youngest had a man bun when he was little but hated it after a while so we stopped.

My son has major FOMO, he will probably want a man bum because he wants his hair to have a different hair style like everybody else lol.

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Jasmin71 · Today 11:39

She can get in the sea. That is outrageous behaviour.

AvoidingSelfieSticks · Today 11:39

Growingaseed · Today 10:02

Strange things happen with brides on their weddings when there is so much stress. Perhaps they have quite big, beautiful hair and she wants something a bit less 'wild' for the photos. It is a bit racist but in a slightly ignorant way. Are your nieces curls more 'controlled'/smaller hair overall?

I would have just done it personally to keep the peace. Straightening once isn't going to cause that much damage and that hair will get chopped off before long. However, I totally get why you wouldn't and she is coming across as a dick.

Tbf I asked for my nephew to not have a hair cut for a few weeks before my wedding as his mum always has it cut like a skin head and I don't like the look at all 🙈. I did say if possible though and wouldn't have thrown my toys out the pram...

she wants something a bit less 'wild' for the photos

’Wild’???

SnoopyPajamas · Today 11:39

dramaisalifestyle · Today 10:15

I do have hairstyle in mind. The point was that if my SIL had any specific hairstyles for curly hair, she could send me those hairstyles

But if she's asking you to damage a small child's hair by straightening it, it's safe to say she doesn't know much about mixed hairstyles. It might have been better for you to take the lead on this one.

Justwonderinghow · Today 11:40

It’s good that your husband is furious.
What will she ask for next, that you apply light foundation to make them look like the rest of the family ?!
Im very protective of my child’s dignity and ensure that I am raising a child who loves themselves and will not allow a racist person near them.
Has She made any comments in the past about your children’s appearance?
If these are her views I wouldnt trust her around my kids ever because she is likely to make “jokes” or racist comments and not see any harm.
I don’t think you should bother going back and forth with her because she likely won’t understand what she did- typical of racist- will minimise and will think you are exaggerating.

Keep your children away from her and people who think like her.

Ilovecakey · Today 11:40

Wtf! Tell her its rude for her to try to dictate how you do your childrens hair! I also have mixed race children and I would never straighten their hair especially not to please someone else! Their hsir is beautiful and I think she is actually being racist and I wouldn't attend her wedding.

cloudtreecarpet · Today 11:41

The casual racism on this thread and clear lack of understanding of the issue is shocking, it really is!

BillyBites · Today 11:41

Well, to quote from Meghan Markle’s Oprah interview, “there’s ‘rude’ and there’s ‘racist.’”

banmusk · Today 11:41

OMG, what a vile person she is🤬
I think I would stop replying to her I would also not go to the wedding. If I ever had the misfortune to see her again I would tell her I can't tolerate her hair and that she should shave it off immediately.

AvoidingSelfieSticks · Today 11:42

cloudtreecarpet · Today 11:41

The casual racism on this thread and clear lack of understanding of the issue is shocking, it really is!

I actually think the majority here understand the issue, and racists thankfully are the minority for once.

Longtimelurker1980 · Today 11:42

dramaisalifestyle · Today 09:34

Next week is my brother's wedding. We are all super excited to welcome my sister-in-law to the family. Obviously this wedding has been planned for months now and up until yesterday I was under the assumption that my kids hairstyle during the wedding didn't really matter.

I have two DC (8 year old daughter, 4 year old son). They are half black, half white. I'm white, as is my extended family. My kids have really curly hair, my daughter has 4A hair and my son has 4B hair.

Yesterday my kids re-tried their outfits for the wedding, just to make sure the outfits still fit. My SIL asked for confirmation, so I sent her a text and I said that the kids outfits still fit. That's when she sent me a text in response asking me if I can straighten my daughters hair for the wedding, and if possible can I straighten my sons hair aswell. Now I've never straightened my kids hair in order to avoid heat damage, they are way too young to understand the damage that straightening their hair can cause. So I told my SIL that I'm not comfortable straightening their hair, but if she has any hairstyles in mind that would work for curly hair, just let me know.

She didn't respond for like 30 minutes. And then when she did respond she said that she thinks it's quite rude for me to try and dictate her wedding. And that she expects their hair to be straight on her wedding day. She said she won't tolerate their hair not being straight for the wedding.

I also got a text from my DM telling me to keep the peace and to just straighten their hair for this one occasion. However, I'm still reusing to straighten their hair, it's really unhealthy for their hair especially when they are too young to understand.

AIBU?

This is plain and simple racism. I would say ‘i wouldn’t straighten my child’s Afro hair anymore than I would try to lighten their skin tone for a wedding.’

Megifer · Today 11:44

"Ok no worries"

Would be my reply.

Then obviously ignore the crazy and see if she makes a twat of herself on the day.

Comeinsideforacupoftea · Today 11:44

On the off chance that this isn't fake please don't do this for so many reasons. I have an 8YO caucasian daughter with very curly hair so I fully understand your predicament. I exhaust myself teaching her to love her curls and teaching her to take care of her curls and letting her know that I think they're genuinely stunning. I would not be letting some bridezilla shit all over that. It's sending a not even subtle message to these kids that straight hair is preferable. I would have thought for your kids it has strong cultural implications too so even more important. If my dd asks me to straighten her hair then sure I'll help her do it. She's bound to be curious and want to experiment as she gets older. However no way would be allowing such young kids to be told that their natural hair isn't beautiful enough. Fuck right off with that idea

Ilovecakey · Today 11:45

Yetanotherone12 · Today 09:40

I’d ask her if curly hair is not allowed, and has she told all the guests curly hair won’t be tolerated?

meanwhile I’d be letting it known generally that if you have curly hair it is not tolerated at the wedding, has anyone else seen?

Yes what if someone with naturally straight hair styles their hair curly for the wedding? Will that also not be tolerated or is it just mixed race people with naturally curly hair she objects to?!

Charliede1182 · Today 11:45

That's disgusting. She may not be aware that her request is racist but it is, and you should tell her how inappropriate that is.

HRTQueen · Today 11:46

When someone shows you who they are ….

take note op I’m glad you are not even considering entertaining her awful demands

Ilovecakey · Today 11:47

TokyoSushi · Today 09:42

I though you meant straighten as in tidy, which of course yes, but straighten as in GHD or whatever, absolutely no!

Why does straightening = tidy? So curly or afro hair doesn't look tidy?

Comeinsideforacupoftea · Today 11:47

Charliede1182 · Today 11:45

That's disgusting. She may not be aware that her request is racist but it is, and you should tell her how inappropriate that is.

I think she would either have to be mentally challenged/living on Mars or both the above to be allowed to claim that she 'doesn't realise that this is racist' tbh