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DD and friend had drinks spiked, now in ITU AIBU?

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Pissedoffmama · Today 14:10

My Dd had her drink spiked last night.
Im sitting in ITU.
I have sons……. But wtf goes on in men’s heads.
For completeness, her best friend, was also spiked, but is not as poorly.
police are being crap.
Just why????

OP posts:
Dozer · Today 16:24

If you’re concerned for other women’s safety please post the rough location where this took place.

GeorgeMichaelsCat · Today 16:25

sunshinesuzey · Today 16:21

Drugs are easier to get on the continent.

What utter rubbish

PrincessScarlett · Today 16:25

Dozer · Today 16:24

If you’re concerned for other women’s safety please post the rough location where this took place.

As a previous poster has said, location is irrelevant as sadly this happens everywhere.

sunshinesuzey · Today 16:26

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · Today 16:18

@sunshinesuzey - you have basically said that this only happened because @Pissedoffmama‘s dd and her friend were not careful enough - that is classic victim blaming.

Do you think you could watch your drink without blinking or looking away for even a moment, for a whole evening? I don’t think anyone could do that.

I wouldn't have a big enough drink that took all night to drink for a start. I would keep it held against my chest so I would be aware if anyone tried to get close to it.
And I would use one of these https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/405152991817?_skw=anti+drink+spiking+stopper&itmmeta=01KY7S82WD34XPNDNTE1G2TT4Z&hash=item5e55000a49:g:p94AAOSwsqxmtJte&itmprp=enc%3AAQALAAAA4GfYFPkwiKCW4ZNSs2u11xDVfOpiE7sQpGohH7Xw9TVmBYT4NMBn6PFDzYgjMaD29JkRCmLw%2BIUl4jIS8jK3KfN1iPr0JYxGLcXJs7VZGAXgyuePB59Wj%2B1Uhx%2BlUX2clDbv6aIDt1PeREbgxP58FRPuuVYTzWd45WGcyCCWBe3QnsPoUjCgW69RwrDTOxTYZO5Sc5ZBuq7MrcN%2BWtYbglvJBsbDIA9VTwVcliR9aIKuycOzROLpiHrGAA1x0rXg5mlrAOQwv19yYql5OKbS47vgC%2Feofzcz%2BWKSermO9IRY%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR8CuoPnxZw

PullingOutHair123 · Today 16:26

It's the work of a split second isn't it?

Many years ago in clubs I always drank bottled beer 'cos I thought it was safer - could see it opened, and my thumb could be over the top till it was finished. Hated the stuff, but figured it was safer than an open glass.

My friend did the same as me, and yet she still got spiked. And I know she was always careful - but some bastard still got her.

Nothing is safe!

LagerLady · Today 16:26

According to one website, the most common drug used in spiking is alcohol. Presumably the bar staff chuck extra shots in a drink.

sunshinesuzey · Today 16:27

GeorgeMichaelsCat · Today 16:25

What utter rubbish

Please yourself.

GeorgeMichaelsCat · Today 16:28

sunshinesuzey · Today 16:27

Please yourself.

I will

Dozer · Today 16:28

If it happens ‘everywhere’. Where, and how often? Why isn’t it being reported?

ProfessorBinturong · Today 16:28

Erin1975 · Today 16:10

The chances of finding whoever did it are minimal. Even if the bar has CCTV, and even if the person doing it is on camera, the chances are the image will be blurry and poor quality. And even if it isn't, you may have a picture of someone the chances of identifying them are small.

This may be true, but doesn't mean they shouldn't try.

sunshinesuzey · Today 16:29

Dozer · Today 16:28

If it happens ‘everywhere’. Where, and how often? Why isn’t it being reported?

That would be my question.

Erin1975 · Today 16:31

ProfessorBinturong · Today 16:28

This may be true, but doesn't mean they shouldn't try.

In an ideal world every crime would be investigated but when resources are limited they are going to deploy them where there is the greatest chance of catching someone.

SilenceInside · Today 16:31

@Dozer it is reported. There was a government inquiry and report into it in 2022

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/understanding-and-tackling-spiking/report-understanding-and-tackling-spiking-accessible

Other organisations report on this too:

https://www.drinkaware.co.uk/news/nearly-one-million-uk-adults-experienced-drink-spiking-in-the-past-year-new-data-reveals

None of this information is hard to find.

sunshinesuzey · Today 16:32

SilenceInside · Today 16:31

So what are the stats for this year?

GeorgeMichaelsCat · Today 16:33

sunshinesuzey · Today 16:32

So what are the stats for this year?

You mean the year we are only just over halfway through?

babyproblems · Today 16:33

Any CCTV at the bar???
you can buy drinks covers - a good idea for all women I think tbh.

hope she is ok xxx

PullingOutHair123 · Today 16:33

sunshinesuzey · Today 16:29

That would be my question.

For a long time it was seen as the victim "asking for it" - by being a bit drunk, or not looking after their drink.

Then it was seen as "too difficult" to solve, so why bother try. And certainly not worth reporting. And if the victim is not tested quickly enough, then the evidence is gone, and there is no crime to report. The fact they went to hospital is irrelevant.

Recently there has been a push to take this crime seriously - I guess not every police force has got the memo.

PrincessScarlett · Today 16:35

Dozer · Today 16:28

If it happens ‘everywhere’. Where, and how often? Why isn’t it being reported?

It crops up in the news fairly regularly. It does get reported but as this thread demonstrates, those that are drugged tend to be written off as having one too many drinks or taken the drugs themselves then cried wolf. Because how dare someone go out for a night of fun.

A lot of the time the drugging does not get reported as the very nature of date rape drugs means often the victim has no memory. Victims of rape have a hard enough time getting justice without adding in having absolutely no memory of the crime.

In many areas lots of procedures have been put in place in bars and clubs to stop the drugs coming in and making it easier for a victim to get help and being believed. A lot of bars hand out drink caps to reduce the risk of spiking.

This has been an issue for at least 40 years.

sunshinesuzey · Today 16:36

GeorgeMichaelsCat · Today 16:33

You mean the year we are only just over halfway through?

Yes.
If it is so common then surely there will be some records of it.
I haven't seen it on the news either.

Lambsydaisy · Today 16:37

sunshinesuzey · Today 15:28

I am sorry that these girls are unwell.

However, I don't understand how it could happen if someone has their drink in their hand all night.

It's not always in drinks. Needle spiking is very much a thing.

sunshinesuzey · Today 16:38

@babyproblems you can buy drinks covers - a good idea for all women I think tbh.
I did mention that earlier and gave a link to these items and where they could be purchased.

PrincessScarlett · Today 16:39

This was in the news in April this year

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq8wv84k8kdo

Letsgoforaskip · Today 16:39

OP I really hope your poor DD recovers quickly. It must be absolutely terrifying to have her in ITU.
My DD was spiked too and was seriously ill. Her friends were luckily amazing and made sure she was never alone and got the help she needed.
I think this was something that did happen when I was young but more with alcohol. Date rape and other drugs are unfortunately very easy to get hold of and the injectables are terrifying.
. This is definitely not a case where blame should be laid on the victim. I think everyone should be able to drink their drink without being poisoned by someone with an ulterior motive!!!
I agree with PP who say that this does happen everywhere unfortunately and I think it is reported. We taught about it in PSHE in schools.

Sunshineandrainbow · Today 16:39

My god, must be awful for you all.
Hope she gets well soon 💗