DD and friend had drinks spiked, now in ITU AIBU?

[Pissedoffmama]

My Dd had her drink spiked last night.
Im sitting in ITU.
I have sons……. But wtf goes on in men’s heads.
For completeness, her best friend, was also spiked, but is not as poorly.
police are being crap.
Just why????

Did you miss the OP saying her daughter wasn't drinking alcohol? Edit: and that the test results showed no blood alcohol. And that the test results showed they'd been drugged.

The bar won't let private individuals watch the CCTV.

My husband was spiked a couple of years ago on a work night out. He'd had two pints, next thing he knew he was drifting in and out of consciousness on the ground outside the pub. Luckily, a colleague found him and got him safely home in a cab, but he was extremely unwell for several days afterwards. To this day, has no idea how or why it happened, or who it was that spiked him.

I don’t know if it’s already been said but it might be worth contacting her local police and crime commissioner, councillor and MP if you don’t think it is being taken seriously enough.

Well, all it takes is someone to look to their left and someone on the right just behind them pops something in. These people are practised at sleight of hand, remember. I had my bag stolen and I swear there was no one nearby. Think how pickpockets are successful, and that's actually taking something out of people's pockets - much harder than popping a pill in a drink.

I suspect they are very, very quick.

We really, really need an 😱 option at the bottom of posts. Because 😱😱😱.

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The bar man!!! What did he get out of it - the sense of control at seeing his customers staggering around, I guess. JFC. I hope they threw the book at him.

Jesus. Was he suitably punished?

Spiking can occur through injection now, do you think that might be a possibility if her drink wasn't out of her sight? Either that or bar staff are guilty

Why didn't he call an ambulance?? I'd have thought that was a much better option than watching you all night! You'd probably have been admitted. OP's daughter is being observed for damage to her organs. I don't really think a friend on a chair was the best option! Glad you were OK.

I was referring to police checking it, not the OP.

I had a drink spiked by a friend OP, but it wasn't GHB or a typical spiking drug. It was a heroic dose ofLSD and MDMA. We were at a rave.

The police were absolutely fucking useless and even tried to convince me I took it willingly because I knew what it was I had been spiked with.

I only knew what I'd been spiked with because at the rave I had a seizure and the spiker felt guilty and confessed to my partner what they'd done but then refused to admit it during questioning and said we were all taking drugs to enhance the rave.

The hospital staff were also no help, and the consultant even came and brought me a booklet about responsible drinking and drug use upon my discharge.

Nobody in the club we were at helped me even though it was clear before my seizure I was in significant distress and I'd apparently run up to the staff babbling and incoherent in a circuit multiple times, then I'd managed to bolt out of the door and quite fortunately for me I dropped and had my seizure right outside the paramedic tent, where I also smacked my head on the guard rails for the main road.

His reason for spiking me: I didn't look like I was having any fun. I was pressured to go to the rave, I don't like crowded places or loud noises but I didn't want to seem like a fun sucker.

I am disappointed that over 10 years later the police are still fucking useless with this. I hope they get a kick up their arse and your daughter and her friend get justice. It is awful and traumatic and it really impacts your social life and your ability to trust people. Well done to your sons for rallying round her and being the support she needs and to you as well. It will mean the world of difference to her.

I don’t think those are the only two possibilities. Spikers are incredibly stealthy, similar to professional pickpocketers. It can seem impossible that they’ve managed it, but they can and do.

My son was spiked aged 22, straight club, watched the drinks being prepare as he was designated safe / sober person for getting the group home that night.

Jesus Christ. I’ve just read down the new posts and again I ask:

what the FUCK is wrong with men?

Years ago I had my wallet stolen on a tube, one 'drunk' fell into my lap, his mate took my wallet while I was distracted. I'm now very aware of my surroundings, it won't happen again.

In a bar, I might be vulnerable to the same tactics though - drunk crashes into my non-drinking arm while an accomplice squirts something into my glass - rather trickier to guard against.

I'm guessing the drugs are cheap and any of us might be the victim of experimentation - different amounts tried out on different body sizes and shapes - even if further crime isn't planned that night.

The problem with the police failing to take opportunities (empty bar could reveal attackers harder to spot on a Friday or Saturday night) is that nobody is learning about the perpetrators, their methods and habits.

It was nearly 30 years ago,I guess he thought he was doing right and if I took a turn for the worst he was there to call ana ambulance.

Back then it was rohipnol and ghb that was used as opposed to the cocktail of things that can be used today, they weren't considered as dangerous. Obviously hindsight is a wonderful thing.

At the time I was just glad he had kept me safe.

What do you mean by potential danger in this context? There's more danger in refusing to contemplate the possibility fo drinks having been spiked because you've been drinking. Perpetrators mainly use bars and clubs for this because people are drinking. It's important to take people seriously when they think this might have happened, even if they've been drinking or taking drugs intentionally.

Oh that happened to my friend 15 years ago at a bar in Norwich. There were 4 of us, she only had one drink and we never left our glasses unattended. She was violently sick, slurring, not being able to walk. Absolutely awful. Back then the NHS just told us to take her back home, make sure she sleeps on her side and give her some water. No tests, no follow up. She was ok by the evening of the next day. I think that it was bartender who did it.

Wishing your daughter a speedy recovery OP! It’s terrifying. So glad she was with her friend who managed to call 999.

Yes but no-one said what drug it was.

I never said that.

Are you always so rude?

I hope your DD is getting much, much better.

Absolutely the police need to act. The potential impact of these crimes is horrific. There is the medical injury, plus whatever the perpetrator planned to do.

Surely CCTV, interviews, etc.

Landing someone in ITU alone should be at the top end of a crime that carries sentences of up to 10 years:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/understanding-and-tackling-spiking/report-understanding-and-tackling-spiking-accessible

Although some of the offences use archaic language and may not readily be identifiable as offences that ‘capture’ spiking behaviour, these existing offences can (and are) used to prosecute spiking crimes today, with some offences attracting maximum penalties of up to 10 years imprisonment. These include offences primarily focused on the harm caused, ranging from common assault and battery to grievous bodily harm (GBH), and their inchoate versions, for example attempting or conspiring to commit an offence. There are also offences that would cover spiking which are more prescriptive to how the harm is caused. These include sections 23 and 24 of the Offences Against the Person Act 1861 (“the 1861 Act”) and section 61 of the Sexual Offences Act 2003 (“the 2003 Act”).
Section 23 of the Offences Against the Person Act 1861- Maliciously administering poison, so as to endanger life or inflict grievous bodily harm. “Whoever shall unlawfully and maliciously administer to or cause to be administered to or taken by any other person any poison or other destructive or noxious thing, so as thereby to endanger the life of such person, or so as thereby to inflict upon such person any grievous bodily harm, shall be guilty of felony, any being convicted thereof shall be liable”
Section 24 of the Offences Against the Person Act 1861 - Maliciously administering poison with intent to injure, aggrieve, or annoy any other person. “Whosoever shall unlawfully and maliciously administer to or cause to be administered to or taken by any other person any poison or other destructive or noxious thing, with intent to injure, aggrieve, or annoy such person, shall be guilty of a misdemeanour, and being convicted thereof shall be liable”

I was spiked by a group of ‘friends’ (well, acquaintances) I’d met up with on a night out many years ago. It’s not unheard of.