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To be sick to death of Andy Burnham already

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Viviennemary · 17/07/2026 20:57

I'm sick to death already of seeing Andy Burnham and hearing his voice. And he isnt even PM yet. Come back Keir Starmer. All is forgiven. I dont know how I'm going to suffer 3 or four more years of him in charge. Playing the part of the working class hero who is going to save the country. Give me strength.

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EasternStandard · 18/07/2026 17:36

Somesuch · 18/07/2026 17:12

When do Farage and Kemi get to come out of hiding?

Kemi hasn’t been hiding, why would she, Starmer has been ousted first despite her detractors.

LuckyHazelFox · 18/07/2026 17:36

CagneyLacey · 18/07/2026 17:35

Here’s a scenario - it might seem familiar to many of you.

The premise: At the next election, it is now entirely plausible that Reform will be elected to government and Farage becomes PM.

After two years the electorate are sick of him and Reform's polling numbers are plummeting. So Reform decide to replace him with a more populist leader (like Labour just did).

They find an ultra safe seat and persuade a Reform MP to step down, forcing a by-election (like Labour just did). They choose a candidate who they know will win the by-election. (Just like Labour did). It is Tommy Robinson.

Then through a concerted pressure campaign, Reform MP's coerce the prime minister to resign. (Like Labour just did). And then they elect, uncontested, their brand new MP to be PM. (Like Labour just did).

Tommy Robinson is now PM.

I fear Labour have just set a new norm for political bait-and-switch. I know a lot of people are unhappy about what has happened, but not enough people are deeply alarmed by what has just happened.

👏

IdaGlossop · 18/07/2026 17:36

LuckyHazelFox · 18/07/2026 17:34

I hadn't realised she'd ever been hiding. In the Commons and out of the street, she's been very vocal and in a strategic way - with purpose.

@somesuch thinks she and Farage are in hiding, not me.

TemperanceWest · 18/07/2026 17:37

BermudaRhombus · 18/07/2026 17:31

None of my fellow party members were going full throttle for Burnham. We’re horrified at what’s happened. But the party is large, so no doubt there were some enthusiasts for him. Personally, I hope that Burnham fails and that he fails quickly and spectacularly. The party will then see him for what he is, a grubby opportunist.

And what happens next if he fails? Labour can't annoit another leader/PM. It would be ludicrous.

I do not like what has happened, but I also do not want Burnham to fail.

thepariscrimefiles · 18/07/2026 17:37

BermudaRhombus · 18/07/2026 17:31

None of my fellow party members were going full throttle for Burnham. We’re horrified at what’s happened. But the party is large, so no doubt there were some enthusiasts for him. Personally, I hope that Burnham fails and that he fails quickly and spectacularly. The party will then see him for what he is, a grubby opportunist.

I'm a Labour party member. Did you want to keep Starmer despite the catastrophic local election results?

I am hoping that Burnham takes the government to the left. The Starmer government didn't feel like a Labour government to me.

LuckyHazelFox · 18/07/2026 17:37

IdaGlossop · 18/07/2026 17:36

@somesuch thinks she and Farage are in hiding, not me.

Sorry 😞

ExtraOnions · 18/07/2026 17:38

MrsBunny2018 · 18/07/2026 17:36

Burnham is just another complete cunt taking over from the previous one.

I do love this level of reasoned debate.

It’s no wonder Politicans are worried about safety.

LuckyHazelFox · 18/07/2026 17:39

ExtraOnions · 18/07/2026 17:38

I do love this level of reasoned debate.

It’s no wonder Politicans are worried about safety.

That's a desperate response! Mps have always been fair game for name calling. Why is it different now?

StandFirm · 18/07/2026 17:40

thepariscrimefiles · 18/07/2026 17:37

I'm a Labour party member. Did you want to keep Starmer despite the catastrophic local election results?

I am hoping that Burnham takes the government to the left. The Starmer government didn't feel like a Labour government to me.

And yet it seems Starmer was mostly unpopular because of Reeves' budget, which will seem like a walk in the park compared to the tax hikes I expect to see in the Autumn.

Somesuch · 18/07/2026 17:40

LuckyHazelFox · 18/07/2026 17:34

I hadn't realised she'd ever been hiding. In the Commons and out of the street, she's been very vocal and in a strategic way - with purpose.

No she hasn’t. She has zero policies or plans. None.

EasternStandard · 18/07/2026 17:41

Somesuch · 18/07/2026 17:40

No she hasn’t. She has zero policies or plans. None.

That’s really not true. Did you also think Starmer would stay until the GE?

IdaGlossop · 18/07/2026 17:43

LuckyHazelFox · 18/07/2026 17:37

Sorry 😞

Don't worry. Farage isn't in hiding either. Yesterday, for example, he made a very valuable contribution to the current debate, counting how many times Andy Pandy looked down at his notes when he gave his speech at the TUC. As a result, the pound has strengthened and the Footsie has increased by three points overnight. Genius 😄

LuckyHazelFox · 18/07/2026 17:43

Somesuch · 18/07/2026 17:40

No she hasn’t. She has zero policies or plans. None.

So no plans on leaving the ECHR? No plans on cutting back on welfare? No.plans on bucking up on defence? Are you getting her mixed up with Burnham.

Somesuch · 18/07/2026 17:44

EasternStandard · 18/07/2026 17:41

That’s really not true. Did you also think Starmer would stay until the GE?

Ooo let’s hear them

Gloriia · 18/07/2026 17:44

CagneyLacey · 18/07/2026 17:35

Here’s a scenario - it might seem familiar to many of you.

The premise: At the next election, it is now entirely plausible that Reform will be elected to government and Farage becomes PM.

After two years the electorate are sick of him and Reform's polling numbers are plummeting. So Reform decide to replace him with a more populist leader (like Labour just did).

They find an ultra safe seat and persuade a Reform MP to step down, forcing a by-election (like Labour just did). They choose a candidate who they know will win the by-election. (Just like Labour did). It is Tommy Robinson.

Then through a concerted pressure campaign, Reform MP's coerce the prime minister to resign. (Like Labour just did). And then they elect, uncontested, their brand new MP to be PM. (Like Labour just did).

Tommy Robinson is now PM.

I fear Labour have just set a new norm for political bait-and-switch. I know a lot of people are unhappy about what has happened, but not enough people are deeply alarmed by what has just happened.

Exactly!

I'm like a broken record sorry but when the job of PM is handed to someone on a plate that person should be a serving MP of at least 6months. It is so concerning how this has happened. I don't care that King Andy was something 10 years ago in Parliament it should be someone with a current proven experience directly related to the post.

DuncinToffee · 18/07/2026 17:44

LuckyHazelFox · 18/07/2026 17:39

That's a desperate response! Mps have always been fair game for name calling. Why is it different now?

Because the rhetoric has changed as has the number of threats thanks to SM

LuckyHazelFox · 18/07/2026 17:44

Somesuch · 18/07/2026 17:44

Ooo let’s hear them

I've just reeled off 3.do you want to come back on those?

EasternStandard · 18/07/2026 17:46

Somesuch · 18/07/2026 17:44

Ooo let’s hear them

I see you haven’t even read up, not surprising. Are you annoyed Starmer is ousted and that’s the reason for your posts?

It won’t bring him back.

BermudaRhombus · 18/07/2026 17:46

thepariscrimefiles · 18/07/2026 17:37

I'm a Labour party member. Did you want to keep Starmer despite the catastrophic local election results?

I am hoping that Burnham takes the government to the left. The Starmer government didn't feel like a Labour government to me.

I wanted to have a say if there was going to be a change of leader. Burnham has run twice before and we were very clear that we didn’t want him. But his arrogance and ego has driven him to seek power by any means and our spineless MPs have enabled him. It’s disgusting.

Gloriia · 18/07/2026 17:46

ExtraOnions · 18/07/2026 17:38

I do love this level of reasoned debate.

It’s no wonder Politicans are worried about safety.

Wasn't it that lovely politician Angela who bellowed Tory scum? Some don't help themselves tbh.

LuckyHazelFox · 18/07/2026 17:47

DuncinToffee · 18/07/2026 17:44

Because the rhetoric has changed as has the number of threats thanks to SM

SM doesn't make nutters go and murder politicians. Ann Widdecombe wasn't even on SM. Whoever killed her made his own calculated choice in travelling to murder her.

MrsBunny2018 · 18/07/2026 17:47

ExtraOnions · 18/07/2026 17:38

I do love this level of reasoned debate.

It’s no wonder Politicans are worried about safety.

Why would my comment suggest Burnham should fear for his safety? Because I'm not a Labour voter? How nutty of you 😂 My opinion is that he is a cunt, as was Starmer. Then again I despise politics of envy, political parties that allow blatant anti-Semitism to run rampant and policies that penalise those who take financial risks to start businesses. How very extremist of me lol

5128gap · 18/07/2026 17:47

CagneyLacey · 18/07/2026 17:35

Here’s a scenario - it might seem familiar to many of you.

The premise: At the next election, it is now entirely plausible that Reform will be elected to government and Farage becomes PM.

After two years the electorate are sick of him and Reform's polling numbers are plummeting. So Reform decide to replace him with a more populist leader (like Labour just did).

They find an ultra safe seat and persuade a Reform MP to step down, forcing a by-election (like Labour just did). They choose a candidate who they know will win the by-election. (Just like Labour did). It is Tommy Robinson.

Then through a concerted pressure campaign, Reform MP's coerce the prime minister to resign. (Like Labour just did). And then they elect, uncontested, their brand new MP to be PM. (Like Labour just did).

Tommy Robinson is now PM.

I fear Labour have just set a new norm for political bait-and-switch. I know a lot of people are unhappy about what has happened, but not enough people are deeply alarmed by what has just happened.

The scenario you've outlined could have happened at any time in our history. There is no need for a precedent to be set, as this isn't some form of landmark test of law.
It does however serve as a cautionary tale for anyone considering voting for parties with strong associations with extremists like Tommy Robinson.

Greenleavesandsunshine · 18/07/2026 17:48

CagneyLacey · 18/07/2026 17:35

Here’s a scenario - it might seem familiar to many of you.

The premise: At the next election, it is now entirely plausible that Reform will be elected to government and Farage becomes PM.

After two years the electorate are sick of him and Reform's polling numbers are plummeting. So Reform decide to replace him with a more populist leader (like Labour just did).

They find an ultra safe seat and persuade a Reform MP to step down, forcing a by-election (like Labour just did). They choose a candidate who they know will win the by-election. (Just like Labour did). It is Tommy Robinson.

Then through a concerted pressure campaign, Reform MP's coerce the prime minister to resign. (Like Labour just did). And then they elect, uncontested, their brand new MP to be PM. (Like Labour just did).

Tommy Robinson is now PM.

I fear Labour have just set a new norm for political bait-and-switch. I know a lot of people are unhappy about what has happened, but not enough people are deeply alarmed by what has just happened.

Assumes that Reform has a significant majority - not likely due to tactical voting.
Assumes other parties all fight the by election - you might get a unity candidate to beat Robinson.
Assumes the safe seat is in fact a safe seat - the electorate might not play, AB was born near Makerfield, he’s local.

But if that does happen then it is allowed by the UK constitution, so be it. The UK constitution is quirky it doesn’t always do what people expect but it tends to get the job done. Also, democracy doesn’t always go the way you want, that’s why you need to engage, get involved, campaign and fight.

DuncinToffee · 18/07/2026 17:49

LuckyHazelFox · 18/07/2026 17:47

SM doesn't make nutters go and murder politicians. Ann Widdecombe wasn't even on SM. Whoever killed her made his own calculated choice in travelling to murder her.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jul/14/mp-death-threats-daily-reality-increasing-climate-abuse-intimidation

So maybe stop and think before you indulge in namecalling.

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