To think that if a man doesnt see his child for a period of 14 days (bar exceptional circumstances/agreed holidays/court agreed schedules) then they should lose parental responsibility?

[hotmumshit]

Saw a woman online who cant take her 4 kids on holiday as their dad refuses to give permission, despite him not seeing the kids or paying maintenance

'Equality for dads' has really served to oppress women further

I agree with the premise that if you don’t see or pay for your children you shouldn’t be allowed to refuse holidays etc.

However there are many woman who refuse to allow dads to see their children. It’s not fair that in that case the dad automatically loses PR. And it may even encourage more woman to refuse.

A system whereby child maintenance is automatically deducted from wages is something I think we shouldn’t without CMS.

Absent

Shes tired I think from raising 4 kids alone

Ive responded in kind to posts said to me.

See i dont know if this is the case anymore

You cant just refuse access anymore, despite likely having very good reasons

I'm sure that even if you suspect nonce behaviour, you cant unless theyre convicted

Insane.

14 days is madness. But I think we do need a conversation about men who neglect their children for long periods of time then waltz in and are awarded PR. A man can go years without ever choosing to meet their DC then apply to court to be added to the birth certificate and recieve PR for a child they have never met. I think that can be really damaging for a DC to be forced into contact with a complete stranger.

Did he become a deadbeat dad before child number 4?

Gosh sounds like you had a nightmare dealing with your ex

Agree there should be good reasons but imo thats not good enough

And 14 days may sound a lot, but I couldnt imagine going 14 days without parenting my child (outside of holiday clubs etc)

It simply would not occur to me to be like 'oh gosh, better take dc to McDonald's as shell take them off me if I dont' but it would to many men

You are a single parent but have no skin in the game. Does that mean your ex was very involved?

A conversation doesnt go far enough imo, someone needs to act

14 days may sound not a lot, but how long is... 28 days.. 6 months

If youre not an active parent, imo, then you lose PR, unless theres a bloody good reason

*this does not apply to boarding school kids or the like

You really have this particular social media user’s back don’t you @hotmumshit . You don’t question one iota of her version

What if the reason why they haven’t seen their child in 2 weeks is because the mother prevented them purely because of your batshit idea to remove PR from the dad? because they do exist despite some women (especially on here) trying to say otherwise (usually because they are the ones preventing the dad seeing his child/children

then what? All the mother has to do is say no I didn’t he just couldn’t be bothered and then who do you believe?

also all this does is when the child’s 18 and can find their dad without permission is allow the man to blame the woman and say she prevented him from seeing them for two weeks to erase him for their life and it’s her fault he didn’t see them, which let’s face it they won’t be able to deny because after two weeks they did remove PR etc

And yes you can just refuse access, it’s very easy to do so as it relies on the dad going to court which let’s face it men don’t as they believe the courts are skewed towards the mothers (whether we believe that or not)

you say you have no skin the game but you clearly do, you are clearly just bitter and resentful

you really haven’t thought this through have you? Especially because it won’t have the impact you think it will as it gives more credence to not paying for their child and using the crazy ex as their excuse

Of course not. What a nasty thread. Nobody should want someone’s parental rights removed.

I do have experience of this, I’m a lone parent. The courts revoked the other biological persons parental responsibility. It’s very extreme and unusual and tough.

They'd be able to prove it

Not seeing your child for 14 days in itself shouldn't trigger anything regarding permanent custody arrangements.

It's very much dependent on the reason why they didn't see them. And whether that left the other parent inconvenienced. And didn't communicate about it with them.

But even then plenty of people with two parents who are together might not see one for 2 weeks for plenty of perfectly reasonable reasons.

Whats nasty about protecting mothers raising their kids alone from being able to choose how they live, without seeking permission from an absent father?

Whats nasty about giving bum dads a kick up the arse to bloody parent their kid?!

14 data seems far too short.
I do think that any absent parent that refuses to contribute financially to their child should lose parental rights though.

Of course, there would be various caveats to such a policy

Most parents, be they the resident or non resident parent, dont go 2 weeks without being in their kids lives in some way!

And whilst some dads may need more than two weeks, ie due to working away, this would've been pre agreed and the kid would never be left wondering when theyd see their dad

This really.

I get the principle of what you’re saying.

Even if there were a rule like this, some dads would just turn up asking for tea from the Mum every 13 days to get round it!

Something about losing PR for not being an involved parent makes sense in some form but what that form is I’m not sure.

It sounds like the straw that's broken the camel's back so to speak. In isolation fine but it must be a pattern of just being a deadbeat or not considering you or the child.

@hotmumshit did you have an absent ex? And / or absent father?

I saw a tiktok and got pissed off!

14 days???? No. My DD’s father hasn’t seen her since she was 1 (almost 11 years) and he still has parental responsibility! I do agree it should be at least restricted after a certain time but not 14 days! 7-10 years more like

7-10 years?!

So a mum cant move, go on holiday etc for 7-10 years without her exs permission, despite him being absent?!

Not necessarily. I know someone who takes the child out for the day when dad is due to pick them up. Purely so he can't have them. Then she ignores the messages/ phone calls from him. It would be his word against hers.

Or an NRP could claim to be ill for a couple of weeks. It would be pretty hard to prove they weren't.

He needs to take her to court. He'd win.