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Why does everyone hate us so much ?!

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englandd · Yesterday 08:52

I’m talking about being English, spent alot of time on the cesspit that is Reddit this World Cup and the vast majority absolutely hate England, I known it stems from the British empire but as far as I’m aware it wasn’t just England who were bad back then was it ? I mean Spain and Portugal took a big part in colonialism too but why is it just the English that gets the hate ?
Last night I would’ve been genuinely happy to support Norway if they went through, I can’t imagine hating another nation so badly. Maybe I shouldn’t take it personally 😆

Aibu ? Do we deserve the hate we get from something that happened hundreds of years ago ? For what it’s worth the British empire were ruthless and I don’t celebrate anything they did, but I also don’t think we should be punished still for something that happened so so long ago.

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thisfilmisboring123 · Yesterday 15:11

CockyJogger · Yesterday 15:04

Dunno. Watched in a pub last night ,
mainly Spanish - Norwegian - Scottish crowd and the running commentary and running commentary was immense but good natured. Obviously we felt a bit hated but whatever.

As the game was reaching its crescendo in through the door fell a big old sack of gammon who then proceeded to order loads of lager and shout at the screens. You know the type. Readers perched on foreheads, big gammons old beer bellies and much put upon wives. Obnoxious smog boors - at least six of them.

even my 11 year old was cringing.

and that’s why everybody hates the English!

That’s amazing!
A sample size of six men in a pub has settled an entire nation's character.

I'm sure the Spanish, Norwegian and Scottish crowds were all perfectly behaved saints.

Goditsmemargaret · Yesterday 15:11

In2mindsss · Yesterday 14:59

I dont think you are celebrated wherever you go at all. I stayed with a french guy who said he hated his time working in Dublin because it was full of people who would try and create faux bonhomie with him over anti-English sentiment when in fact he happens to be an anglophile and their vibe reminded him of the algerians in france

And there we go again.

I'm Irish, you're not. I've travelled extensively and noted the reaction every single time the other person has clocked the Irish accent. We've also travelled with an English person and it became a running joke how the free drinks were always thrusted upon us.

Yet here you are EXPLAINING to me how I've been received on the basis of being Irish.

EamonnFyre · Yesterday 15:11

I think it’s to do with English people’s behaviour when they’re in other countries.
Some football fans, holiday makers etc behaving obnoxiously and as a nation is not really even trying to learn other’s languages and assuming people will just bend to accommodate us.

EssCarGo · Yesterday 15:14

Cetim · Yesterday 13:35

Erm. It could be empire but I doubt it. The Brits have a reputation (accurate or not) for being arrogant and for hating anyone who is not British/English.

The English 👍

Redpaisley · Yesterday 15:15

Also want to say British have so much self hate, they think they are being fair but if you don’t like yourself, no one is going to like you.

On the contrary, Germans are respected.

Nolongera · Yesterday 15:15

Bigots gonna bigot.

And bigots make the most noise on social media.

Backedoffhackedoff · Yesterday 15:16

Redpaisley · Yesterday 15:15

Also want to say British have so much self hate, they think they are being fair but if you don’t like yourself, no one is going to like you.

On the contrary, Germans are respected.

I think this is very true.

Redpaisley · Yesterday 15:19

EamonnFyre · Yesterday 15:11

I think it’s to do with English people’s behaviour when they’re in other countries.
Some football fans, holiday makers etc behaving obnoxiously and as a nation is not really even trying to learn other’s languages and assuming people will just bend to accommodate us.

English tourists are usually very respectful in my country, India. But Indians, despite liking those tourists, don’t like England because of past empire. They feel anger for how Indians were treated back then.

CockyJogger · Yesterday 15:20

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 15:08

I don't think I'd be taking the piss when you think it's classy to have an 11 year old in a pub after midnight.

Umm I live in Spain. It’s not particularly strange - probably because the Spanish don’t behave like utter pigs when drinking in pubs .…plenty of kids running around. You can take Spanish kids to pubs because they’re generally not confronted with arseholes. Unless there’s a tournament and the guiris turn up.

Sunflowerandpumpkin · Yesterday 15:20

ThunderThunderThunderThunderCats · Yesterday 11:56

I've never come across any English person (in person or online) who looks down at the Irish! A LOT of British people especially here in the NW are of Irish descent. Literally half Irish on my dad's side, both Northern and Southern Ireland.

I had a very nasty comment from another poster when I dared to write something on Pedants’ corner. The poster scoffed with disbelief that an Irish person could have an opinion on how English was written. The clear implication was that I should get back to my bog.

It was quite horrible.

Differentforgirls · Yesterday 15:21

Goldenbear · Yesterday 13:50

Where do you get your categorical view that the English are hated globally from and that you think the rest of the world differentiates so easily when they hear the English language being spoken. Every time I go to the Mediterranean I am asked if I am Swedish, German, Danish or Dutch, despite my whole family being English. My husband is very Olive skinned and people always think he he is from continental Europe, he isn't but being from London, our heritage is very diverse. It's the same with our friends, family heritage from all over the world. We are speaking English in generic SE England accents, they aren't able to discern we are English so how are you so convinced that this viewpoint is universal - it's just bollox!

Well maybe because you're not talking in Scottish, Welsh or Irish accents?

SuddenLightbulb · Yesterday 15:22

Redpaisley · Yesterday 15:15

Also want to say British have so much self hate, they think they are being fair but if you don’t like yourself, no one is going to like you.

On the contrary, Germans are respected.

That’s certainly true — reading Mn, you would think the UK was enduring some kind of end of days dystopian nightmare and failed state, rather than being a perfectly nice country/group of countries with an astonishing literary tradition (and the world’s best capital in London), albeit currently going through a bit of a dip.

The ‘sudden emigration’ threads of late on here blow my mind. Not ‘I’m dying to go and live in Country X because I’ve spent time there, speak the language and think it’s somewhere I could be happy’, but ‘This country is shit and a failed state — what other country will let me in?’

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 15:23

CockyJogger · Yesterday 15:20

Umm I live in Spain. It’s not particularly strange - probably because the Spanish don’t behave like utter pigs when drinking in pubs .…plenty of kids running around. You can take Spanish kids to pubs because they’re generally not confronted with arseholes. Unless there’s a tournament and the guiris turn up.

Pigs and gammon? You're really coming across as quite enraged. I think I will be cheering on France next Tuesday.

Hadalifeonce · Yesterday 15:23

I have a friend who is from one of the other home nations, when I said that I would be rooting for her home country against a European nation, she was very surprised when I explained that I would always support any of the home nations against anyone other than England. She seemed to think being English I hated her nation (sports related).
Do the other home nations assume the same?

TheSquashyHatofMrGnosspelius · Yesterday 15:24

Poppingby · Yesterday 09:00

Because many English football fans are racist thugs who have typically misbehaved in other people's countries probably.

This and the way Brits abroad cause so many problems.

Redpaisley · Yesterday 15:24

Persephonia1966 · Yesterday 15:03

Speak for yourself.
I'm English and as feral as they come.
International football tournaments are not meant to be about sitting around politely clapping in a "civilised" fashion. Of course smashing up shops is bad. But it's only on Reddit and here that you have people either talking about how some fans are "too loud"/want to win too much or about how other countries fans (the brown ones apparently) are "uncivilised" because of how.they apparently celebrate winning. Urrghh dancing in the streets over football? So unEuropean.

It's like watching aliens trying to come to grips with what football is.

Did you see how Mexicans behave towards England football team?

potterspot · Yesterday 15:24

LumenLights · Yesterday 15:03

Ah yes, I forgot the English were to blame for the IRA spending decades blowing up major English cities and killing English children.

The Troubles didn’t just involve the IRA bombing England….

HammyHocky · Yesterday 15:25

CockyJogger · Yesterday 15:20

Umm I live in Spain. It’s not particularly strange - probably because the Spanish don’t behave like utter pigs when drinking in pubs .…plenty of kids running around. You can take Spanish kids to pubs because they’re generally not confronted with arseholes. Unless there’s a tournament and the guiris turn up.

Are you Spanish? Or an immigrant from the UK?
I lived in Spain for a long time and the Spanish are not perfect at all, including some of their behaviour when out and about.

MandemChickenShop · Yesterday 15:27

people don't hate the English anyway

lovecotswoldsliving · Yesterday 15:27

HammyHocky · Yesterday 15:25

Are you Spanish? Or an immigrant from the UK?
I lived in Spain for a long time and the Spanish are not perfect at all, including some of their behaviour when out and about.

Cocky Jogger is not Spanish.
Poor Soain having someone like that moving there.

Dumbledora8 · Yesterday 15:29

ClassActress · Yesterday 09:19

Ireland won its independence in 1919 (officially 1921). That’s not hundreds of years ago.

Also, if you read up on what happened during the famine, it was absolutely horrific. I doubt you’d be so flippant as to say Well, it was hundreds of years ago.

The 6 counties in the north still do not have independence

lovecotswoldsliving · Yesterday 15:29

Redpaisley · Yesterday 15:24

Did you see how Mexicans behave towards England football team?

Edited

Or how the Mexicans were to all their opponents?
Or how vile Paraguay were to the French team?

HammyHocky · Yesterday 15:30

lovecotswoldsliving · Yesterday 15:27

Cocky Jogger is not Spanish.
Poor Soain having someone like that moving there.

It’s weird to move to another country and despise your own people whilst being blind to those around you. I love the Spanish but they have their faults and that is okay, we all do. To be on this thread perpetuating the same crap about the English which isn’t always true is bizarre. I never saw that sort of Brit/English behaviour in Spain and we knew a fair few British people because of the company my husband was working for had a lot of English people. I reckon he/she doesn’t live in Spain at all to be honest.

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 15:31

lovecotswoldsliving · Yesterday 15:29

Or how the Mexicans were to all their opponents?
Or how vile Paraguay were to the French team?

Or how the Morrocan fans attacked police

lovecotswoldsliving · Yesterday 15:32

TheSquashyHatofMrGnosspelius · Yesterday 15:24

This and the way Brits abroad cause so many problems.

Can you name one?
We have the most diverse team. Where are all the racist thugs?
Can you show me evidence of one problem caused by English Supporters abroad? During this World Cup?
I would pipe down as you are showing yourself as a common racist.

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