Why does everyone hate us so much ?!

[englandd]

I’m talking about being English, spent alot of time on the cesspit that is Reddit this World Cup and the vast majority absolutely hate England, I known it stems from the British empire but as far as I’m aware it wasn’t just England who were bad back then was it ? I mean Spain and Portugal took a big part in colonialism too but why is it just the English that gets the hate ?
Last night I would’ve been genuinely happy to support Norway if they went through, I can’t imagine hating another nation so badly. Maybe I shouldn’t take it personally 😆

Aibu ? Do we deserve the hate we get from something that happened hundreds of years ago ? For what it’s worth the British empire were ruthless and I don’t celebrate anything they did, but I also don’t think we should be punished still for something that happened so so long ago.

I’m English and like football and I loathe “Its coming home.” There’s something about it that manages to be both jingoistic and utterly pathetic at the same time.

I have to leave the room in embarrassment when it’s being sung.

No she was horrified that she was friends with a racist bigot.

@englandd

I don’t think it’s to do with football hooliganism anymore - we’ve improved & other countries have their problems.

British empire - again other countries have problematic history but I think it plays a part.

I think it’s arrogance to be honest, and a lack of awareness of our history. Brexit hasn’t helped. Now you can accuse the French of being arrogant but they are more stylish and chicer than us so they get away with it more.

Except no one abroad understands accents. They think you are all English, so it’s you lot dragging the English down!

Is this a good time to mention the riots in London after the France v Morrocco game? And wasn't it interesting that it was reported as 'football fans'

I think there will be plenty of mumsnetters who avoid certain holiday resorts or types of holiday so they dont have to mix with brits abroad! Or want to avoid stag do central so want to stay in other areas of a city. Or raise an eyebrow at older men retiring in the phillipines.

Well the people living in those areas dont get to avoid them and probably do have a negative view.

No because they will accuse you of making it up!

Then you really need listen to they lyrics
Theu are tsking the piss out of themselves
Becsuse they know that England have a faint chance if winning but ususlly cock it up at the last minute on penalties or whatever
Also it waa written for Euro 96 when The tournament came home and was played in England .

Oh come on, that's a bit harsh! It's the World Cup! If the 11-year-old is into football - and I'm assuming he is - it will have been an amazing treat for him. And sounds like they were on holiday, too. Don't be a fun sponge! I highly doubt that he's in the pub after midnight every Friday and Saturday night, lol!

The fact this is still being explained to posters 32 pages in is quite something.

Particularly, English football fan posters!

Yep - the French are the original style-it-out people!

I'm Irish.
England still owns part of our country.

It's just a bit of fun! It's a great chant!

For me, as an irish person, it is 100 per cent our complicated history. England spent centuries beating the Irish language out of us. When the potato crop failed, the British government watched a million people starve while exporting Ireland's actual food for profit. They sliced the island in two on their way out, creating a political mess in Northern Ireland that remains a massive issue to this day. The ultimate joke is that while Ireland remembers every single bit of this 800-year history, English schoolkids are learning about Henry VIII’s wives, the tudors, world war 1 and 2. Do English kids learn how one million irish people died in the famine while they watched on!??

Basically, they invaded us, starved us, broke the country, forgot they did it, and now wonder why we don't cheer for them in the Euros.

But, kindly, it was 150 years ago. That’s like saying you still blame Germany for World War 2. It hasn’t been forgotten at all, many English are aware of what happened and are not proud of it by any means, it was horrendous. And we have gone on to do it again when Churchill starved the Indian’s. But then again, Churchill was a complete cunt.

The Troubles I appreciate are probably very painful for many people and if that was your point then I would understand, but the famine was 150 years ago, not committed by anyone alive today. It doesn’t feel fair to be angry with living people who had nothing to do with that.

I'm sure there are many lovely Russian people. It's a bit silly to dislike an entire nation of millions of people, don't you think?

No, hoping to win. Not expecting.
Like all teams and their fans.

The irony is though that a lot of English people have irish heritage
My Dad and is.Irish
So your hating peoole that could very well be related to.you.

It’s the zeitgeist, to carry baggage that’s nothing to do with anyone alive. Looks pathological to the sane.

So you are holding people of today responsible for what happened a long time ago?
That is something else.
Oh and just to educate you. The tournament is not the Euros. It’s The World Cup.
I appreciate you didn’t get a team into the tournament, but obviously you are not a football supporter.
kind of embarrassing.

@DimwittedSkater😆

I said exactly the same thing, that the English of today can't be punished for things that happened a long time ago that we have no control over!
But I think it's more that it is blimmin annoying, the whole 1966 and "football's coming home" thing when we haven't even reached the final yet! It makes us look arrogant, and total fools when we get knocked out yet again! 😆 I really hope we make it this time, though!

Not all, but many English people behave really badly when abroad. Not just the football thugs. We are pretty embarrassing as a nation, and I think if you truly put yourself in the shoes of a native of any other country that English people regularly visit, you would understand why it’s quite fun to cheer against them.

I think the England team are very talented and deserve every success! I do think the way that the commentators and pundits talk about them is a bit cringe( “courageous” , “brave” “heroes” ) and I do think there is an undertone of aggression within all the fan celebrations. Don’t take it personally.

Again listen to the lyrics!!!

And Americans.
Don’t half of US citizens say they have Irish heritage?