Why does everyone hate us so much ?!

[englandd]

I’m talking about being English, spent alot of time on the cesspit that is Reddit this World Cup and the vast majority absolutely hate England, I known it stems from the British empire but as far as I’m aware it wasn’t just England who were bad back then was it ? I mean Spain and Portugal took a big part in colonialism too but why is it just the English that gets the hate ?
Last night I would’ve been genuinely happy to support Norway if they went through, I can’t imagine hating another nation so badly. Maybe I shouldn’t take it personally 😆

Aibu ? Do we deserve the hate we get from something that happened hundreds of years ago ? For what it’s worth the British empire were ruthless and I don’t celebrate anything they did, but I also don’t think we should be punished still for something that happened so so long ago.

I can’t be held responsible for people’s lack of knowledge of British cultural history.

I meant football hooliganism specifically, not the word itself.

And that wasn't the example they used to pathetically claim the superiority of Irish society by contrasting TV shows was it?

Ignoring the fact they are manufactured reality, one going for drama one going for stereotypical niceness for different reasons.

I know but Football’s Coming Home has become a kind of unofficial national anthem.

What can I say? It just makes me cringe.

😱

I watched it too, one hour later than you actually, no need to behave like an arse because of it.

I live in a Scandi country, was going for Norway but like everyone else here quite happy when England won and we all wish them well.

That was a lot later, there were football hooligans in England decades before that.

I watched the game with Norwegian and Finnish friends last night, I have Danish family, sorry but your sweeping generalisation about what the whole world think of the English is just weirdly smugly ignorant and shows me that you haven't really any idea of the big wide world. Being very white (the Irish) as a team is a valid point, a complete ignorance of English life is causing me secondhand embarrassment.

Are you claiming that Ireland isn’t overwhelmingly white?

I meant football hooliganism specifically.

But you don't sound like you are interested in football so you don't get it.

So in other words, you aren't charging us for living in your head. I would say that's another win for England. We are taking quite a few wins lately. 🏆

No it hasn’t!!! It is the anthem most used during the World Cup, but we aren’t singing it at church or on a casual Tuesday! Our national anthem is shit but we’re not replacing with something written by Baddiel and Skinner for fucks sakes! Not everyone gives a fuck about football, I certainly wouldn’t want it as our national anthem.

Go on. Think really, really hard.

I’ll even give you a clue. Prior to the popularity of video games, no one claimed violent video games caused violent behaviour.

I didn't enjoy Irish Traitors.

So you are tying to pretend because we called it something different, that makes any point at all and that the same thing already existed is irrelevant . . . . .

Its a football anthem thats what people do.

Same here. I agree this is just embarrassing. and so, so odd.

Tbf it better then God save the king😂

Exactly, it just makes me laugh this notion of Englishness from the 1940s. FFS many of us live and are product of multi cultural England that those judging have never known. It's just embarrassing.

Its because there's an element of people of use football as an excuse to be knobheads. They get violent, they hit people, destroy things, they plan destruction.

Now look at Norway who do pretend rowing... Scotland who charm the hosts etc.

We have a reputation of thuggish behaviour. Whenever we lose there's a fear of rioting.

To be fair, it probably describes our national feeling far better than a dirge about a King that a good proportion of us don’t even want.

Men (not all men) can be gross. Especially men visiting Thailand. While I think the Irish have very valid reasons for disliking the English/British if you wouldn't want all the Irish to be judged according to Conner McGregor or certain Irish rugby players (who did far worse than say sleazy things) it's not particularly fair to judge all English people by some men you met in a sleazy bar in a sex tourism and child sex tourism capital (apologies to the lovely Thai people. It's not their fault). I see the same thing in other people who will, on any discussion (be it immigration, the war in Iran), turn it to the time some Moroccan looking men whistled at them.

If you want to find reasons to hate a group of people it's always possible to find some men from said group who behaved badly. Unlike some of the other teams (Japan, sigh) none of the men on the current England team seem to have anything known against them. They all seem l, at least on the surface, to be fairly decent examples of masculinity and I kind of like that and like that people like them for it.

I don’t mind if you think not. The blast of loathing is enough from wherever you are.

I wonder what about this England team blows people’s mind most?

The fact that the ‘arrogant’ ex public schoolboy is black

The Spanish speaking working class Liverpool man?

The bling loving fella who campaigned for kids to be fed.

Oo look, the English aren’t one thing.