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Bloody sick of men. Oh it’s the immigrants raping and stabbing, NO it’s men. Always fucking men

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00K · Yesterday 19:02

That’s my Friday rant.
Far right men thinking they’re sorting everything out with their riots to protect the women. Maybe women should riot about just men.

also I know it’s not all men, but it is men.

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VivienneDelacroix · Yesterday 20:04

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But your daughters are still more likely to be assaulted by a white British man. The majority of sexual assault in the UK is carried out by white men. The majority of violent crime in the UK is committed by white men. Whilst people continue to focus on migrants the vast majority of criminals in this country will be white men, who no doubt are happy to have the attention from their crimes deflected by a narrative which only serves them. It certainly doesn't serve women.
The problem is men. Men men men.

00K · Yesterday 20:04

RedRosesParmaViolets · Yesterday 20:03

Yeah I ain't arguing there, but if men are the issue which they are ; how does it help to import all these young men from places where it's common to treat women differently?

How does that help. Here in the west we have worked on this

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EmeraldShamrock000 · Yesterday 20:05

RedRosesParmaViolets · Yesterday 20:03

Yeah I ain't arguing there, but if men are the issue which they are ; how does it help to import all these young men from places where it's common to treat women differently?

How does that help. Here in the west we have worked on this

Stop making sense. I don’t know posters why posters don’t get the connection.

Mixrace · Yesterday 20:05

Significantly more Afghans sexual assault women and girls. Disclaimer - I am an Asian woman and vote Labour.

Using the census figures, we get 9.0 sexual offences per 10,000 Afghans, and 2.9 per 10,000 Britons. The Afghan figure is three times higher.

Using the APS figures, we get 59.2 offences per 10,000 Afghans, and 2.7 per 10,000 Britons. That's where Mr Farage's higher figure of 22 times higher comes from.

news.sky.com/story/fact-checking-farage-are-foreigners-more-likely-than-britons-to-commit-sexual-offences-13407029

ScreentimeInTheMeantime · Yesterday 20:06

00K · Yesterday 19:02

That’s my Friday rant.
Far right men thinking they’re sorting everything out with their riots to protect the women. Maybe women should riot about just men.

also I know it’s not all men, but it is men.

I feel like I want to scream that I’m sick of white men pointing their fingers at other groups

HobGobblynne · Yesterday 20:06

RedRosesParmaViolets · Yesterday 20:03

Yeah I ain't arguing there, but if men are the issue which they are ; how does it help to import all these young men from places where it's common to treat women differently?

How does that help. Here in the west we have worked on this

Except we haven’t have we. We have incidents of VAWG all day every day committed by western born men. Most of which don’t even make an appearance in the mainstream media because it’s so commonplace & to be frank, doesn’t rile people up.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · Yesterday 20:06

nocoolnamesleft · Yesterday 19:04

Both the stabbings and the rioting are male violence.

Exactly, and the racists just want to own women, not protect them.

VivienneDelacroix · Yesterday 20:07

HobGobblynne · Yesterday 19:54

@Theworldsgonemadagain

We live in a culture where it's not acceptable to sexually assult a woman.

Do we? Why do we have such a diabolical conviction rate for rape and other sexual violence then?

Exactly. Let's not believe this patriarchal lie. It's "not acceptable" to be caught or known to sexually assault women, but a hell of a lot men clearly don't have a problem with it.

Dweetfidilove · Yesterday 20:07

HelpHedgehogsByFeedingThemCatBiscuits · Yesterday 19:56

Ireland has a long and bloody history.

Do you think that allowing millions of undocumented males from misogynistic cultures would go down well there, OP?

And no, I don't think Irishmen rioting is a `good thing' but what do you expect them to do in the face of unprovoked violence to their own. The young man with special needs had both his eyes gouged out by the Somalian he had helped move in next door. Rinse and repeat.

We have enough violent males in our own culture. Why do you think that importing millions more from even more violent cultures will be accepted?

The days of middle class do-gooders like you telling us to light a candle and offer `hopes and prayers' as our culture is erased and violence becomes mainstream are long gone. This is what you voted for so suck it up buttercup.

Just be thankful you live in your nice middle-class enclave which will never be affected by what is really going on.

The 'mainstream' violence I'm witnessing is not being perpetrated by immigrants though. Lone immigrant men have murdered or assaulted citizens, but within hours, there are tens and hundreds of white thugs ready and suitably armed to burn, kill, assault police officers, hunt immigrants and all sorts.
Sounds like violence is so inherent and present for them, they need little notice or encouragement to be violent.

00K · Yesterday 20:08

VivienneDelacroix · Yesterday 20:07

Exactly. Let's not believe this patriarchal lie. It's "not acceptable" to be caught or known to sexually assault women, but a hell of a lot men clearly don't have a problem with it.

And get away with it every day. Conviction rates of 4%

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Honeyhonay · Yesterday 20:09

Theworldsgonemadagain · Yesterday 20:01

I would have attended if I were in NI and that happened in my street so yeah not a balaclava in my wardrobe!

Okay so we’ve established you would have been happy to attend a riot, advertised as wanting only men and requesting you come prepared to fight or get arrested.

Not only that but also “all businesses must close NO EXCUSES”.

Frankly that just makes you a bit of a dick, nothing about the intention at all is peaceful and the goal is very clearly violence and destruction. If that’s the sort of thing you’re itching to spend your evenings getting involved in you’re also a total thug.

missmollygreen · Yesterday 20:11

00K · Yesterday 19:13

Do you not think any white men are raping people?

Anyway my point is that it’s men

What do you propose to do with this information?

LoremIpsumCici · Yesterday 20:13

Yanbu OP
The far right blaming immigrants has a lot of ´only we get to rape our women’ vibes. These are the same men who want to more heavily restrict abortions, deport women and children to the Taliban, and think women shouldn’t have senior roles because women aren’t as willing as men to sacrifice family time.

00K · Yesterday 20:13

missmollygreen · Yesterday 20:11

What do you propose to do with this information?

I didn’t say I had a solution. I’m just sick of men deciding to get angry and violent with other men who are being angry and violent and then people seemingly getting distracted by race and colour rather then just saying ‘Men are the fucking problem here’

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HelpHedgehogsByFeedingThemCatBiscuits · Yesterday 20:14

Dweetfidilove · Yesterday 20:07

The 'mainstream' violence I'm witnessing is not being perpetrated by immigrants though. Lone immigrant men have murdered or assaulted citizens, but within hours, there are tens and hundreds of white thugs ready and suitably armed to burn, kill, assault police officers, hunt immigrants and all sorts.
Sounds like violence is so inherent and present for them, they need little notice or encouragement to be violent.

It's not `lone immigrant men' though, is it.

The Pakistani rape gangs were well organised and involved thousands of men.

But let's sweep the wholesale abuse of thousands of children under the carpet in the name of `dversity' and focus on a few young men chucking wheelie bins at the police in NI.

Thoughts and prayers etc etc cont.p.94. And let's light a Diptique candle to offer our condolences, diversity is our strength etc etc. Oh and let's demonise 50% of the human race for the errors of the few. How very enlightened.

00K · Yesterday 20:17

HelpHedgehogsByFeedingThemCatBiscuits · Yesterday 20:14

It's not `lone immigrant men' though, is it.

The Pakistani rape gangs were well organised and involved thousands of men.

But let's sweep the wholesale abuse of thousands of children under the carpet in the name of `dversity' and focus on a few young men chucking wheelie bins at the police in NI.

Thoughts and prayers etc etc cont.p.94. And let's light a Diptique candle to offer our condolences, diversity is our strength etc etc. Oh and let's demonise 50% of the human race for the errors of the few. How very enlightened.

My rapist, my sexual abuser and the gang who beat me up were all white. What about the rich white men peodaphile gangs?

The point is women aren’t doing this, men are and they come in all colours and sizes

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Walkyrie · Yesterday 20:19

Mixrace · Yesterday 20:05

Significantly more Afghans sexual assault women and girls. Disclaimer - I am an Asian woman and vote Labour.

Using the census figures, we get 9.0 sexual offences per 10,000 Afghans, and 2.9 per 10,000 Britons. The Afghan figure is three times higher.

Using the APS figures, we get 59.2 offences per 10,000 Afghans, and 2.7 per 10,000 Britons. That's where Mr Farage's higher figure of 22 times higher comes from.

news.sky.com/story/fact-checking-farage-are-foreigners-more-likely-than-britons-to-commit-sexual-offences-13407029

They won’t listen to you, these people take a particular kind of exception to non white people making this point because then they can’t rely on accusations of bigotry. Thats why they haven’t replied. Of course, you’re correct.

HobGobblynne · Yesterday 20:19

HelpHedgehogsByFeedingThemCatBiscuits · Yesterday 20:14

It's not `lone immigrant men' though, is it.

The Pakistani rape gangs were well organised and involved thousands of men.

But let's sweep the wholesale abuse of thousands of children under the carpet in the name of `dversity' and focus on a few young men chucking wheelie bins at the police in NI.

Thoughts and prayers etc etc cont.p.94. And let's light a Diptique candle to offer our condolences, diversity is our strength etc etc. Oh and let's demonise 50% of the human race for the errors of the few. How very enlightened.

Do you genuinely think someone whose OP says “men are the problem” was accepting of mass rape of children?

why do people always try and reach for this as a gotcha. We think all violence is wrong, regardless of the perpetrator. Unlike the rioters in Belfast and elsewhere who are only interested in avenging crime when it’s committed by an immigrant.

And have a think about why you’re opposed to demonising all men for the actions of a few, but fine with demonising all immigrants for the action of even fewer.

Walkyrie · Yesterday 20:20

00K · Yesterday 20:17

My rapist, my sexual abuser and the gang who beat me up were all white. What about the rich white men peodaphile gangs?

The point is women aren’t doing this, men are and they come in all colours and sizes

What about them? They’re being prosecuted in large numbers. Even royalty are falling now, and Epstein’s rape island has been extensively covered. Even MAGA types are demanding the files.

RoadTripDiary · Yesterday 20:20

00K · Yesterday 20:17

My rapist, my sexual abuser and the gang who beat me up were all white. What about the rich white men peodaphile gangs?

The point is women aren’t doing this, men are and they come in all colours and sizes

They do, so let’s not allow MORE bad men into Britain. We have enough that need to be dealt with! Why wouldn’t you want to keep men out who we can keep out when you know men are the problem?

HelpHedgehogsByFeedingThemCatBiscuits · Yesterday 20:20

MellowZebra · Yesterday 20:02

And no, I don't think Irishmen rioting is a `good thing'

Irishmen? Are you from the UK? Do you know much about NI? I have a feeling you don't.

Yes, I'm Irish. Unlike the English who will sit behind computers, offering wilted flowers and lighting candles while wittering platitudes about `hopes and prayers', the Irish will be out on the streets, whether you like it or not.
Why do you wish to antagonise them given the long and bloody history of that divided isle?

Walkyrie · Yesterday 20:21

HobGobblynne · Yesterday 20:19

Do you genuinely think someone whose OP says “men are the problem” was accepting of mass rape of children?

why do people always try and reach for this as a gotcha. We think all violence is wrong, regardless of the perpetrator. Unlike the rioters in Belfast and elsewhere who are only interested in avenging crime when it’s committed by an immigrant.

And have a think about why you’re opposed to demonising all men for the actions of a few, but fine with demonising all immigrants for the action of even fewer.

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Because they almost immediately descend into making it about immigration and pointing out ‘white men commit crimes too’ like we don’t already know this perfectly fucking well.

plaidpillow · Yesterday 20:22

Why is it okay to generalise and denigrate an entire sex based off the crimes of some of them but you draw the line at recognising certain nationalities may be more dangerous than others. The mind boggles at this logic.

ScreentimeInTheMeantime · Yesterday 20:22

A fair few mentions of how awful life is in Afghanistan for women. But doesn’t that just underline how oppressive the Taliban regime is and the need for asylum? Many Afghans helped the US and UK against the Taliban.

That’s admittedly besides the point - I do accept people can have a debate about immigration. But whether or not you agree with providing asylum, these men indulging in mob violence in Belfast are dangerous to women and children.