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Bloody sick of men. Oh it’s the immigrants raping and stabbing, NO it’s men. Always fucking men

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00K · Yesterday 19:02

That’s my Friday rant.
Far right men thinking they’re sorting everything out with their riots to protect the women. Maybe women should riot about just men.

also I know it’s not all men, but it is men.

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Dweetfidilove · Yesterday 20:24

HelpHedgehogsByFeedingThemCatBiscuits · Yesterday 20:14

It's not `lone immigrant men' though, is it.

The Pakistani rape gangs were well organised and involved thousands of men.

But let's sweep the wholesale abuse of thousands of children under the carpet in the name of `dversity' and focus on a few young men chucking wheelie bins at the police in NI.

Thoughts and prayers etc etc cont.p.94. And let's light a Diptique candle to offer our condolences, diversity is our strength etc etc. Oh and let's demonise 50% of the human race for the errors of the few. How very enlightened.

a few young men chucking wheelie bins at the police in NI.

Lol!

LoremIpsumCici · Yesterday 20:24

HelpHedgehogsByFeedingThemCatBiscuits · Yesterday 20:14

It's not `lone immigrant men' though, is it.

The Pakistani rape gangs were well organised and involved thousands of men.

But let's sweep the wholesale abuse of thousands of children under the carpet in the name of `dversity' and focus on a few young men chucking wheelie bins at the police in NI.

Thoughts and prayers etc etc cont.p.94. And let's light a Diptique candle to offer our condolences, diversity is our strength etc etc. Oh and let's demonise 50% of the human race for the errors of the few. How very enlightened.

Pakistani rape gangs of thousands of men you say? Funny that because the reports show only 165 known perpetrators for the entire Asian ethnicity category.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/national-audit-on-group-based-child-sexual-exploitation-and-abuse/national-audit-on-group-based-child-sexual-exploitation-and-abuse-accessible#chapter-4-the-nature-and-characteristics-of-group-based-child-sexual-exploitation

*The VKPP Report for 2023[footnote 131] notes that ethnicity was recorded for only 31% of perpetrators, but goes on to record the ethnicity breakdown (88% ‘White’, 5% as ‘Asian’, 3% as ‘Black’, 2% as ‘Mixed’ and 1% as ‘Chinese or other’) and compare it with Census ethnic distribution in the general population.

In the November 2024 CSE Taskforce COCAD report, self-defined ethnicity data was published for all ‘contact’ group-based child sexual exploitation and abuse crimes in 2023 where two or more suspects had been identified (including offending in family, institutional and other settings). It also outlined an ethnicity profile for suspects that aligns fairly closely with 2021 Census data for the general population in England and Wales[footnote 132] (88% White, 7% Asian, 5% Black, 3% Mixed and 2% Other), with a caveat noted in the report that self-defined ethnicity was only recorded for 34% of suspects.

With over two thirds of ethnicity data missing for perpetrators in the VKPP report and nearly two thirds missing in COCAD, it is not possible to draw any conclusions on the representation of ethnic groups amongst perpetrators from this published data set.

This audit took the same published data set and reconfigured it. If perpetrators for whom ethnicity was not known or declared are included in the data and percentage breakdowns, the figures look very different, with 28% of perpetrators identifying as White:
EthnicityNumberPercentage
White 1,884 28%
Asian 165 2%
Black 110 2%
Mixed 60 <1%
Other 47 <1%
Not declared 4,404 66%
Totals 6,670 100%

Presenting the data without the ‘unknowns’ where the identification of ethnicity is at such a low level is misleading.

The issue is we are missing 66% of the data so we have no idea that any one ethnicity or subethnic group is disporportinately forming rape gangs,.

National Audit on Group-based Child Sexual Exploitation and Abuse (accessible)

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/national-audit-on-group-based-child-sexual-exploitation-and-abuse/national-audit-on-group-based-child-sexual-exploitation-and-abuse-accessible#fn:131

HelpHedgehogsByFeedingThemCatBiscuits · Yesterday 20:25

HobGobblynne · Yesterday 20:19

Do you genuinely think someone whose OP says “men are the problem” was accepting of mass rape of children?

why do people always try and reach for this as a gotcha. We think all violence is wrong, regardless of the perpetrator. Unlike the rioters in Belfast and elsewhere who are only interested in avenging crime when it’s committed by an immigrant.

And have a think about why you’re opposed to demonising all men for the actions of a few, but fine with demonising all immigrants for the action of even fewer.

Edited

I'm not `demonising immigrants'. I don't worship them either.

We have enough problem men in these divided Isles already without importing millions more of them who are potentially even worse.

Anyway, carry on offering `thoughts and prayers' to the young man who had his eyes gauged out by the man he was helping move in next door.

I'm sure that will really help.

Honeyhonay · Yesterday 20:25

HelpHedgehogsByFeedingThemCatBiscuits · Yesterday 20:20

Yes, I'm Irish. Unlike the English who will sit behind computers, offering wilted flowers and lighting candles while wittering platitudes about `hopes and prayers', the Irish will be out on the streets, whether you like it or not.
Why do you wish to antagonise them given the long and bloody history of that divided isle?

Edited

The people you talk about are British, they would be disgusted at you referring to them as Irish men not once but several times 😂

HobGobblynne · Yesterday 20:25

Walkyrie · Yesterday 20:20

What about them? They’re being prosecuted in large numbers. Even royalty are falling now, and Epstein’s rape island has been extensively covered. Even MAGA types are demanding the files.

Which royalty? The only thing Andrews been arrested for is misconduct in public office 🤷🏻‍♀️

HobGobblynne · Yesterday 20:27

Walkyrie · Yesterday 20:21

Because they almost immediately descend into making it about immigration and pointing out ‘white men commit crimes too’ like we don’t already know this perfectly fucking well.

Of course they do in the context of every time an immigrant commits a crime, those that are looking for an outlet for their own violence start rioting and making noise about protecting women without any acknowledgment that women aren’t safe from people that look like them either.

HobGobblynne · Yesterday 20:30

HelpHedgehogsByFeedingThemCatBiscuits · Yesterday 20:25

I'm not `demonising immigrants'. I don't worship them either.

We have enough problem men in these divided Isles already without importing millions more of them who are potentially even worse.

Anyway, carry on offering `thoughts and prayers' to the young man who had his eyes gauged out by the man he was helping move in next door.

I'm sure that will really help.

I haven’t offered anyone thoughts and prayers. I’m not religious.

Although I’m not sure what your sarcasm is trying to get at? Should we not be sympathetic to the victim of this crime? Bit of an odd standpoint.

EmeraldShamrock000 · Yesterday 20:32

HelpHedgehogsByFeedingThemCatBiscuits · Yesterday 20:25

I'm not `demonising immigrants'. I don't worship them either.

We have enough problem men in these divided Isles already without importing millions more of them who are potentially even worse.

Anyway, carry on offering `thoughts and prayers' to the young man who had his eyes gauged out by the man he was helping move in next door.

I'm sure that will really help.

Yes, poor chap.
Previous poster accusing him of a drug deal gone wrong. Any excuses to take some of the responsibility away from the guy who removed his eyes before trying to hack off his head.

Trayfevers · Yesterday 20:33

Most people living in this country including men and immigrants are law abiding citizens I would imagine so you’re being really silly.

On the immigration front; they generally have more kids so we need them to pay for our ageing population. The mistake that successive governments have made is being too afraid of political correctness to ensure people are integrating into our society.

People rioting probably have nothing better to do since there’s a huge amount of unemployment and general lack of opportunity. Many young people have no hope of going to uni or buying their own home. Older people are facing redundancy and the cost of living crisis too.

Not an excuse but rioting on the streets and civil unrest is always a failing of government

HobGobblynne · Yesterday 20:34

Walkyrie · Yesterday 20:19

They won’t listen to you, these people take a particular kind of exception to non white people making this point because then they can’t rely on accusations of bigotry. Thats why they haven’t replied. Of course, you’re correct.

I haven’t replied because I didn’t see the comment, no more than that.

Absolutely some nationalities have a higher incidence rate, that still doesn’t translate to assuming every person in that cohort is a risk and wanting to punish them all for the crimes of another.

Walkyrie · Yesterday 20:35

HobGobblynne · Yesterday 20:34

I haven’t replied because I didn’t see the comment, no more than that.

Absolutely some nationalities have a higher incidence rate, that still doesn’t translate to assuming every person in that cohort is a risk and wanting to punish them all for the crimes of another.

Has anyone here suggested we do that?

Passingthrough123 · Yesterday 20:36

00K · Yesterday 20:13

I didn’t say I had a solution. I’m just sick of men deciding to get angry and violent with other men who are being angry and violent and then people seemingly getting distracted by race and colour rather then just saying ‘Men are the fucking problem here’

So what’s the solution then?

EmeraldShamrock000 · Yesterday 20:37

There is trial going on in Dublin ATT. The immigrant was refused social welfare. He followed three different sets of school children before deciding a group of 5 year olds would be his victim, he slashed them violently including their teacher who fought for her life, one girl aged 8 now is non verbal, in a wheelchair, regularly sedated, peg fed, thankfully some men intervened. He’s pleading not guilty to the charge, 7 people were stabbed, 4 were 5 years old, the little shoes and school bags discarded around pools of blood.
Thats just one of many incidents that have occurred since the floodgates open February 2022.

HobGobblynne · Yesterday 20:37

EmeraldShamrock000 · Yesterday 20:32

Yes, poor chap.
Previous poster accusing him of a drug deal gone wrong. Any excuses to take some of the responsibility away from the guy who removed his eyes before trying to hack off his head.

I imagine they were confused with his previous horrific attack where he was set on fire by a drug dealer he was living with. Seems to have been a lot of misinformation online about this. No reported evidence he himself was involved with drugs.

www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/attempted-murder-victim-stephen-ogilvie-was-tortured-by-drug-dealer-in-scotland-in-2001/a/156813057.html

HobGobblynne · Yesterday 20:38

Walkyrie · Yesterday 20:35

Has anyone here suggested we do that?

Yes, the people who are saying we mustn’t “import” men from other cultures

HobGobblynne · Yesterday 20:40

EmeraldShamrock000 · Yesterday 20:37

There is trial going on in Dublin ATT. The immigrant was refused social welfare. He followed three different sets of school children before deciding a group of 5 year olds would be his victim, he slashed them violently including their teacher who fought for her life, one girl aged 8 now is non verbal, in a wheelchair, regularly sedated, peg fed, thankfully some men intervened. He’s pleading not guilty to the charge, 7 people were stabbed, 4 were 5 years old, the little shoes and school bags discarded around pools of blood.
Thats just one of many incidents that have occurred since the floodgates open February 2022.

I’m not sure what point you’re making, people know immigrants have committed crime, (some) people also know that native people commit crime.

I don’t see anyone denying that immigrants have ever committed crime? There will be endless examples of both cohorts awful crimes. We could post them all day and not run out I’m sure.

EmeraldShamrock000 · Yesterday 20:40

HobGobblynne · Yesterday 20:37

I imagine they were confused with his previous horrific attack where he was set on fire by a drug dealer he was living with. Seems to have been a lot of misinformation online about this. No reported evidence he himself was involved with drugs.

www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/attempted-murder-victim-stephen-ogilvie-was-tortured-by-drug-dealer-in-scotland-in-2001/a/156813057.html

Yes, when he was 17. A child. he was drugged and set in fire by an adult male. Poor man never had a break. He was drugged with GHB, abused, set on fire the year he came out of care. That was probably his fault too. No wonder he’s vulnerable.

MellowZebra · Yesterday 20:41

Honeyhonay · Yesterday 20:25

The people you talk about are British, they would be disgusted at you referring to them as Irish men not once but several times 😂

That is what I was about to say. It is odd that pp, being Irish, is not aware of this.

EmeraldShamrock000 · Yesterday 20:42

On the immigration front; they generally have more kids so we need them to pay for our ageing population. The mistake that successive governments have made is being too afraid of political correctness to ensure people are integrating into our society.
You are assuming those children will be interested in working to support the aging population and not stay in the welfare, as evidenced by their parents.

Walkyrie · Yesterday 20:43

EmeraldShamrock000 · Yesterday 20:37

There is trial going on in Dublin ATT. The immigrant was refused social welfare. He followed three different sets of school children before deciding a group of 5 year olds would be his victim, he slashed them violently including their teacher who fought for her life, one girl aged 8 now is non verbal, in a wheelchair, regularly sedated, peg fed, thankfully some men intervened. He’s pleading not guilty to the charge, 7 people were stabbed, 4 were 5 years old, the little shoes and school bags discarded around pools of blood.
Thats just one of many incidents that have occurred since the floodgates open February 2022.

Bloody hell

Genuine question and I’m sure there’s an answer, when was the last time a Brit went on this kind of murder spree toward children in public?

HobGobblynne · Yesterday 20:43

EmeraldShamrock000 · Yesterday 20:42

On the immigration front; they generally have more kids so we need them to pay for our ageing population. The mistake that successive governments have made is being too afraid of political correctness to ensure people are integrating into our society.
You are assuming those children will be interested in working to support the aging population and not stay in the welfare, as evidenced by their parents.

That doesn’t really hold up. Immigrants in the UK are generally more likely to be in work than UK born people, so there’s no evidence that their children are inherently more likely to stay on welfare to “copy” their parents.

HobGobblynne · Yesterday 20:44

Walkyrie · Yesterday 20:43

Bloody hell

Genuine question and I’m sure there’s an answer, when was the last time a Brit went on this kind of murder spree toward children in public?

In Southport I imagine at the dance class that sparked the riots.

EmeraldShamrock000 · Yesterday 20:45

HobGobblynne · Yesterday 20:43

That doesn’t really hold up. Immigrants in the UK are generally more likely to be in work than UK born people, so there’s no evidence that their children are inherently more likely to stay on welfare to “copy” their parents.

No. Some immigrants are motivated and work hard, there is entire groups who suck every cent possible out of the government and their children will follow.

Honeyhonay · Yesterday 20:46

EmeraldShamrock000 · Yesterday 20:42

On the immigration front; they generally have more kids so we need them to pay for our ageing population. The mistake that successive governments have made is being too afraid of political correctness to ensure people are integrating into our society.
You are assuming those children will be interested in working to support the aging population and not stay in the welfare, as evidenced by their parents.

As evidenced?
Evidenced by what?
You can be pro strong immigration reforms without resorting to just making things up.
Many immigrants in the uk are not eligible for public funds due to their visa and the evidence suggests immigrants overall are less likely to claim benefits as a group compared to UK nationals.

Walkyrie · Yesterday 20:46

Walkyrie · Yesterday 20:43

Bloody hell

Genuine question and I’m sure there’s an answer, when was the last time a Brit went on this kind of murder spree toward children in public?

Or Irish man, given the crime just mentioned, although obviously I’m probably less aware of crimes there.

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