Nicola Sturgeon STILL didn't know her husband stole £400,000

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Follow on from previous thread.

You might have missed the fact that they have just been voted in as Govt?

Name one.

Of course. It merely meant that I agreed with you re the hyperbolic use of percentages.

It's possible to do that and disagree woth pretty much everything else you have said.

Are they all in there because they’re upstanding members of the community?

I'm assuming that you're not suggesting that prisoners should not have the right to feel safe.

Very aggressive posting style, and women do not tend to use the word girl about themselves.

This isn't my first rodeo.

You see my husband and I are lucky to have sought after skills and a lot say in our working conditions. I have the option of moving to England or demanding I remain paid in GBP if Indy happens so I’ll be ok. Public services would be decimated and tax would be through the roof so I’d probably move but it’s public sector workers and those on benefits who’d really suffer. The SNP never spell that out to those less financially literate. It’s so deceptive.

Bring in prison is the punishment. I don’t approve of torturing people by letting them live in a constant state of fear and withholding their sex based rights.

@boobashka correct. Some nats are fully aware mind you and choose to conceal it.

There’s a very very good reason the SNP ran a mile post 2014 when the idea of full fiscal responsibility was floated, despite the fact it would give them much more financial control than currently….

Fine & handy it went to Court just after, eh?

Well said.

I only know one Scottish woman who has been in jail. She’s been in every woman’s jail except Greenock. She has told me that the last thing she worried about while in there was trans women. She was more worried about the violent women she was locked up with. I believe her. She has turned her life around and is now leading a productive life. She is a trans ally.

Forgive me for believing her before people on here who have zero experience of being in prison.

This has nothing to do with your despicable comment which suggests that women in prison deserve to be preyed upon.

The plural of anecdote is not data.

So you think women in prison should have their sex-based rights withheld from them?

There was zero need for you calling me “it” though.

"Three quarters of women and girls in prison have been abused by men – either physically, sexually, or in many cases, both."

https://forwomen.scot/wp-content/uploads/FWS-Affidavit-of-Rhona-Hotchkiss-unsworn-15Dec2025.pdf

I don't believe i did, if you read it as that, I apologise.

Of course not! But they aren’t in there for nothing. You could have probably looked at certain pupils in the course of your career and felt despair at where they were headed. Who wants that for any young person? What I’m trying (badly) to say is that women’s prisons aren’t all sweetness and doing each other’s hair. They have violent women in them. To try and put that on the very few trans women in there just isn’t fair.

You did but thank you for apologising. We can agree and disagree on things but that really hurt me.

It really wasn't intentional and I am sorry.

I’m going to believe a woman who experienced it, before women who haven’t.

I don't think anyone is, they are just an extra level of risk that shouldn't be there. There is always a risk of violence, but no need to make it worse.

Where did I use the word “girl”?

Putting intact male rapists in with incarcerated women is 100% wrong. I don’t care how they ‘identify’. Anyone who can excuse the rape or sexual assault of women who are literally locked up with their rapist by saying other assaults happen - words fail me.