Nicola Sturgeon STILL didn't know her husband stole £400,000

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Follow on from previous thread.

Yes people are allowed to and should be critical of politicians. But the level of personal attack and hatred she, and other women politicians, gets is a disgrace.

What do your threads hope to achieve? i'm assuming by perpetuating this attack on her and to discrediting the SNP you have a political agenda.

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It's the top story of the weekend. She is promoting discussion by allowing interviews on the telly with political journos. We are also allowed to discuss on here anything we like.

Mybe there is a little more anger directed at her from women because we are disappointed in her. We have so few females in top positions compared to men. We're used to how low men can go. We see it daily.

I wonder weather we are more disappointed and let down precisely because she's a woman rather than 'even though'. We hoped for better.

The glaringly obvious give away should have been the matching Dyson hair dryers.
He's a fucking baldy

I would have questioned that straight away

Nonsense. Absolute nonsense.

You don’t hold back any personal attacks on politicians who you don’t vote for I imagine, irrespective of sex.

Did you hold back from attacking Margaret Thatcher, Liz Truss, Michelle Mone etc for their behaviour on the basis that they are women? Guessing not. And you’d be right. As people are here given the scrutiny avoidant tactics of those at the top of the SNP.

She signed off on the accounts falsified by her husband and discouraged anyone from looking critically at party finances, as well documented and seen on video ffs. This is the bigger picture here, extremely poor governance and incompetence by a party of long term power in Scotland - not a failure to notice a motorhome parked in a driveway, which frankly her account of is, to put it mildly, utter mince.

• John Bercow and his wife Sally’s redecoration expenses (although I suspect Bercow didn’t need much encouragement)

• Blair and his wife Cherie’s various business ventures, including “Cheriegate”

The business community, on the other hand, have plenty of evidence of actions which are either gross incompetence or active wrongdoing.

I have been reading about Nicola Sturgeon's brief legal career. She didn't cover herself in glory but seems to have avoided being struck off. The upheld complaints all relate to her failure to pass on a completed legal aid application form from a victim of domestic violence. Luckily for NS she got elected soon after so could start a new career as a politician. Perhaps she's just not good with details?

Her interview on Laura Keunesberg was a the most obvious display of narcissism ever.

She is absolutely shameless. It’s all about her. It beggars belief that she has zero self awareness.

Maybe she’s been taking lessons from Andrew Mountbatten Windsor.

Well, we all know she is a misogynist.

Isla Bryson would tell you as much:

Pah. I thought her “interview”, which her lawyer attended, btw, was not that effective.

108 toilet rolls tells its own story. Where did those live?

This definitely. Women have enough trouble getting to the top of organisations without one of our own making such a visible and documented hash of managing one.

QUITE RIGHT HEN ITS A PURE WITCH HUNT WHEN AHM THE ACTUAL VICTIM HERE ITS NO LIKE I HUD ANY IDEA WHIT WIS GOIN ON WI THE ACCOUNTS O MAH PAIRTY OR FORWHY ABDY WIS GOIN ON ABOOT ODDITING THEM AW THE TIME!!!

Oh, bugger. 😂

DOXXED MASEL.

Of all of this terrible case I want to understand the auditing aspect.

I am no SNP or NS fan, quite the opposite in fact. I know I am in a minority but I believe her. I watched her interview. I believe I was watching a genuinely traumatised woman. I do, however, also see incompetence and lack of judgment. I know I will be called naive but it’s my view.

If anyone in my family gave me a gift, say, of salt and pepper pots you could not get me to even imagine a price like those on bought. Wouldn’t even register. That’s just one example. Joseph Joseph hardly wildly expensive, again wouldn’t bat an eyelid.

I have never believed that the wife or family of say a drug dealer is unaware. No matter what they say. Clearly if someone is not “normal” working, pays huge rents in cash, buys most stuff in cash, I would not believe a wife if she were to say similar to Nicola. People who are great deceivers are just thst, so many sad tales of highly intelligent people being scammed for example. I feel it is absolutely credible she didn’t know or even suspect. I just don’t see why she would lie here and what she would have to gain.

Alex Salmond announcing after he’d left, and after they’d fallen out, that he said he’d being leader and him CEO was a bad idea also actually shows how shit he was.

He was very happy for her to be leader and Murrell CEO when that was his path back to being leader and future first minister.

The plan was always for her to succeed him so given he mentored her and Murrell was already CEO he should have been a major player in the transparency set up for that possibility.

However, given Murrell was thieving on his watch he wasn’t even on the ball when he was in charge, let alone any future planning.

So many people have questions to answer.

Johnson Carmichael.
Every audit & finance committee prior to the one that quit.
Every leader and deputy leader - which includes the current incumbents.
Colin Beattie.

I think her being a woman is irrelevant. She was in a position of great power, hence open to scrutiny. I know exactly what my husband earns. If new, expensive things started appearing all over the place, I would know something weird was going on.

Would you know if you didn’t live together much of the time, worked non stop, and he perhaps hid a lot of stuff or gave it away. Really? I know I wouldn’t, wouldn’t even cross my mind if someone I trusted.

What I noticed was her bridling about being made to compensate or hand over assets regarding what her ex husband did.

Over time, what he did was an overall financial benefit to her household. The pens and the toilet rolls are headlines. But ultimately it mean that they spent (as a couple) on more assets like property. Sturgeon did get divorced of course, but I do not know if that ring fences her assets from the marriage.

The investigation cost 2 million pounds.

I think it's also important to remember that the SNP doesn't tolerate dissent. Their MPs and MSPs are whipped to within an inch of their arses. They MUST vote in a block for whatever the SNP leadership says is the party stance. If they break ranks and rebel, they are suspended from the party. This is what happened to Fergus Ewing, who has been in the SNP for yonks.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-66941281

So you have this atmosphere that you have to keep your head down and do what you're told, or you're out on your ear. So people do just that because they know that without the "SNP" branding on a ballot paper nobody is going to vote for them. It's really not the way to run any organisation.

Wasn't the campervan explained away as being bought for the SNP to use as a campaign vehicle?

@LaliqueSaltGrinder Didn’t MS Cherry have an issue with all
the secrecy and lack of openness? She suspected poor accounting I think. NS and PM controlled everything. Swinney is being an idiot. He should ensure the party explains how this happened and what they are doing to ensure money from donors is spent appropriately. Just saying the police investigated so that’s ok, is not good enough. But he was in the thick of it too, wasn’t he!

And look what happened to Joanna Cherry. Ousted and shunned. She's a strong character who can take it and has a legal career to fall back on. Many other MSPs can't believe their luck getting voted into a cushy job with a good salary and just keep their heads down.