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Men... are u okay? What is the problem?

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LavenderSkiesxo · 20/05/2026 15:02

I think this will be removed / deleted but i am not saying anything untrue. Or factually incorrect. But here goes...

Since having my little girl just over a year ago I have started resenting men. I dont know why as my partner isnt bad. I just see them in a whole new light.

Firstly, years ago women couldn't vote and it was the done thing that they would look after the children and home and men were the providers. But, many women (not all!) Now have careers, go to work, earn their own money. We can now vote. Aswell as have a career, many women still take on majority of the housework and childcare. Not because men always refuse but they just dont, we do things automatically. Men, just dont think.

The other day I was driving to visit family and saw a car with its hazards on in the slip road... they have broken down i thought. Nope. A man was standing behind his car pissing. It got me thinking, ive never seen a woman pissing at the side of the road. We just wouldn't, so how do men find themselves in this situation? My dog can hold its bladder until "walkies" so what's the issue?

I read that men commit like 91% of murders, most rapes are men and men mostly abuse their partners. Men are more likely to commit suicide, men dont open up and speak about their feelings.. some men transition to become "women" and fight to enter women spaces. I know women transition to men but you dont hear about them!

I just dont understand. Men.. what is the actual problem??? Apart from sperm, what is your actual purpose??

The posts on here today.. oh my man was messaging a coworker inappropriately and he cant get her moved as it'll be suspicious... WHAT!! Nah he has played his part, otherwise it would be as simple as, hey HR this person is being inappropriate and its making me uncomfortable, here are the messages 🤣🤣

Or the other one, my man spent lots of money on my credit card and refusing to pay up... WHAT🤣🤣

What the fuck, we all play our part to with enabling such shit behaviour.

OP posts:
WerzMyHedAt · 21/05/2026 00:43

Wovennotglued78 · 21/05/2026 00:39

I am lucky because the men in my life on the whole are very decent.

Op your view is too extreme!

Did you know that men account for approximately 95% of all fatal workplace injuries globally and in the UK because they work in more dangerous occupations generally speaking such as agriculture construction, mining, transportation and storage.

This means men are roughly 10 to 20 times more likely to die on the job than women. And as many men work to support themselves and their families, that’s a fairly major sacrifice they make.

And sorry but having lived and worked with animals all of my life I just don’t believe that males and females are the same. This is far too simplistic but very generally speaking males are driven by testosterone which causes them to spread their seed and defend the pack, and hunt, which provides single focus, and females can also be agressive but they will never be as physically strong as men and oestrogen means they have a wider field of vision and greater capability to do more than one thing at once.

This is possibly a controversial view but I think it is also factual; we are all subject to our hormones to varying degrees and we can’t completely escape our biology, however much we think we are civilised and can exercise freedom of thought and action.

100% yes, the 'nature of the beast' is very, very different. To me, it is so obvious. It is right there to be clearly seen. I don't know why everyone tries to deny it.

I know this is extreme/OTT but I won't even get a male pet because I don't want any masculine vibes in my home at all. I feel like I couldn't love a boy pet as much as I can love a girl pet.

🤣🤣🤣

Beachtastic · 21/05/2026 09:03

lornad00m · 20/05/2026 23:41

And yet we can't have those discussions. At all. 'Intelligently' or otherwise. Because they're shut down. Just like this one. Either women have internalised misogyny. Or they're fortunate to live in a bubble where the negative aspects of men's behaviour never touches them. And they either don't want to know or don't care about how it can impact the lives of other women.

It's depressing. But it is what it is.

It's not "either/or" at all. Over a 40-year period I had a succession of abusive relationships with awful men - including two who attempted murder, one who was convicted for CSA images, and a smackhead. They all drained me completely.

Eventually I grew up (four words that do not convey how complicated this process was!) and stopped making shit choices in life based on my preconceptions about men. And guess what? Life looks very different now.

You can dismiss me as a smug happily married woman with no exposure to reality, or you can consider that your own warped view is actually negatively impacting your quality of life.

AWeeCupOfTeaAndAnIndividualFruitTrifle · 21/05/2026 09:05

LavenderSkiesxo · 20/05/2026 23:34

But what are you carrying to clean youre feet mm unless u factor an outdoor pee into your walking plans???

I don't know - wet wipes, bottle of water and some leaves, put your socks back on and wash them when you get home?!! I haven't really thought about it in depth!!

MysticChevron · 21/05/2026 09:06

Men are pigs. End of.

Witchonenowbob · 21/05/2026 09:09

MysticChevron · 21/05/2026 09:06

Men are pigs. End of.

Good god! I must tell the surgeon and oncologist that saved my life that! Both men.

MysticChevron · 21/05/2026 09:12

Witchonenowbob · 21/05/2026 09:09

Good god! I must tell the surgeon and oncologist that saved my life that! Both men.

Fill your boots! They’re also egotistical AF, so they’ll love the feedback, no doubt 🥳

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 21/05/2026 09:16

AWeeCupOfTeaAndAnIndividualFruitTrifle · 20/05/2026 23:23

But what on earth is your reasoning behind suggesting that OP has a point in her frankly nasty assertion that men are useless but for their sperm if you acknowledge that it isn't the male sex as a whole, and that there are indeed a great many of them - one would like to think the large majority - who are lovely, or at least decent enough?

It reminds me exactly of the way that certain notorious people on the extreme right will cite a case of an immigrant who subsequently commits an appalling crime in the UK and declare that we don't want them in this country - with which I would have to agree - but then they use that case to whip up a frenzy suggesting that all immigrants are guilty/potentially guilty of the same as the very bad person; and then even extend it to all British people who happen to have non-white skin.

Why would you not want to judge people on their individual merit (or lack thereof), rather than decrying them all (or almost all) as useless members of humanity, just based on their sex, race, religion, nationality or whatever?

Your lack of comprehension is astounding. No one is saying ALL. Most people do not commit crime. The ones that do though are mostly men. I’m not sure why this is difficult to understand or that it somehow equates to ALL men are bad.

Witchonenowbob · 21/05/2026 09:31

MysticChevron · 21/05/2026 09:12

Fill your boots! They’re also egotistical AF, so they’ll love the feedback, no doubt 🥳

Oh they got fabulous feedback, and they’d get it many times over! I will forever be grateful.

AWeeCupOfTeaAndAnIndividualFruitTrifle · 21/05/2026 11:10

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 21/05/2026 09:16

Your lack of comprehension is astounding. No one is saying ALL. Most people do not commit crime. The ones that do though are mostly men. I’m not sure why this is difficult to understand or that it somehow equates to ALL men are bad.

I'm thinking the same about you, so probably best to leave it there and we agree to disagree.

LavenderSkiesxo · 21/05/2026 13:27

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 21/05/2026 00:39

Why do you?

Did you go to sleep then? You stopped replying when you were called out 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 you gave me a good giggle before bed, thank you xxxxxxx

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EmailsaysOOO · 21/05/2026 13:31

Witchonenowbob · 21/05/2026 09:31

Oh they got fabulous feedback, and they’d get it many times over! I will forever be grateful.

I don't think it's healthy to engage with posters such as this, with these issues. Nothing good will come if it..

VaxMerstappen · 21/05/2026 13:36

I think it'd be a better use of your time to get your dildo out and solve whatever pent-up frustration it is that has caused you to decide to post this, tbh. Raging misandrist.

CombatBarbie · 21/05/2026 13:42

shuggles · 20/05/2026 21:36

Oil rig workers, miners, sewage workers, bin men, chemical industries, construction.

All jobs that involve a high risk of occupational illness and/or death. Risks that do not exist with wiping arses or bathing elderly people.

Can you please provide evidence that women cannot do these jobs?? Its 2026 not 1916.....

SleepingStandingUp · 21/05/2026 13:47

LavenderSkiesxo · 20/05/2026 21:37

I think men feel powerless at the moment.

They are no longer the breadwinner for many families. They no longer outearn their partners. It must be humiliating to do a full day at work, feel knackered whilst your partner has done a full day, the school run, dinners, cleaning.. oh and still finds time to look after themselves, and talk to family and friends. Why are men incapable of any of that? As a species they have not evolved and I've had enough. My partner said to me the other day, the babies nails are getting a bit sharp havent you cut them?? I looked at him and said yes I will do it but is it purely my job are you incapable??? Oh, erm, ehh, I djdnt mean that. Of course you didnt. Twat.

so why are you with him? you're contemptuous of him, you feel superior to him, he's clearly useless in your opinion. why cling into a man you clearly don't seem to respect or like?

shuggles · 21/05/2026 17:57

CombatBarbie · 21/05/2026 13:42

Can you please provide evidence that women cannot do these jobs?? Its 2026 not 1916.....

I didn't say they can't do these jobs. I said they don't do them.

The data is available online which shows that they don't.

shuggles · 21/05/2026 18:01

@Yellowworm45 For the people saying it's not all men
If you had a box of chocolates all looking the same
But one of them was dog poo inside the chocolate shell
Would you risk eating any ?
Or would you say no thanks to them all.
Honestly it would massively put me of choosing any of them .
To high a risk as you don't know which is dog poo

If I substitute "men" in this analogy with specific ethnic or religious groups, is this analogy still valid?

Terrellium · 21/05/2026 18:34

shuggles · 21/05/2026 18:01

@Yellowworm45 For the people saying it's not all men
If you had a box of chocolates all looking the same
But one of them was dog poo inside the chocolate shell
Would you risk eating any ?
Or would you say no thanks to them all.
Honestly it would massively put me of choosing any of them .
To high a risk as you don't know which is dog poo

If I substitute "men" in this analogy with specific ethnic or religious groups, is this analogy still valid?

It’s such a stupid analogy. It could be applied to pretty much anything.

There are plenty of toxic, horrible women around. Maybe men should steer clear of women, if you’re going to live your life by the chocolate analogy. Or women avoid being friends with women. Or men avoid being friends with other men.

Clarabell77 · 21/05/2026 18:37

UniquePinkSwan · 20/05/2026 15:10

The man bashing on this site is getting worse. If men did this on petrolheads you’d all be frothing

That’s because they’d all be lying!

Witchonenowbob · 21/05/2026 18:54

EmailsaysOOO · 21/05/2026 13:31

I don't think it's healthy to engage with posters such as this, with these issues. Nothing good will come if it..

Yes, good point! The particular poster then reacted with a heart ❤️ on my last comment, odd indeed!

EmailsaysOOO · 21/05/2026 19:06

MysticChevron · 21/05/2026 09:06

Men are pigs. End of.

Have you told your dad this ? Or your son or your male cousin or boss ?

Witchonenowbob · 21/05/2026 19:10

EmailsaysOOO · 21/05/2026 19:06

Have you told your dad this ? Or your son or your male cousin or boss ?

I’d hazard a guess she’s made them aware ….

MiniPharm · 21/05/2026 19:20

The older I get the more I agree. What is the point of them?

EmailsaysOOO · 21/05/2026 19:40

@Witchonenowbob yes I expect they've worked it out somehow !. I'm annoyed at myself for not taking the advice I gave you but can't imagine having that much hatred inside me . So weird .Ah well.

Pigeonatthewheel · 21/05/2026 21:00

UniquePinkSwan · 20/05/2026 15:10

The man bashing on this site is getting worse. If men did this on petrolheads you’d all be frothing

Ah Petrolheads, that well known man’s forum 🤣 Unless this is deliberately incorrect to mock it, if so fair play!

Pigeonatthewheel · 21/05/2026 21:10

Pigeonatthewheel · 21/05/2026 21:00

Ah Petrolheads, that well known man’s forum 🤣 Unless this is deliberately incorrect to mock it, if so fair play!

Where’s the edit function, before a grammar pedant gets me 😬

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