Men... are u okay? What is the problem?

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I think this will be removed / deleted but i am not saying anything untrue. Or factually incorrect. But here goes...

Since having my little girl just over a year ago I have started resenting men. I dont know why as my partner isnt bad. I just see them in a whole new light.

Firstly, years ago women couldn't vote and it was the done thing that they would look after the children and home and men were the providers. But, many women (not all!) Now have careers, go to work, earn their own money. We can now vote. Aswell as have a career, many women still take on majority of the housework and childcare. Not because men always refuse but they just dont, we do things automatically. Men, just dont think.

The other day I was driving to visit family and saw a car with its hazards on in the slip road... they have broken down i thought. Nope. A man was standing behind his car pissing. It got me thinking, ive never seen a woman pissing at the side of the road. We just wouldn't, so how do men find themselves in this situation? My dog can hold its bladder until "walkies" so what's the issue?

I read that men commit like 91% of murders, most rapes are men and men mostly abuse their partners. Men are more likely to commit suicide, men dont open up and speak about their feelings.. some men transition to become "women" and fight to enter women spaces. I know women transition to men but you dont hear about them!

I just dont understand. Men.. what is the actual problem??? Apart from sperm, what is your actual purpose??

The posts on here today.. oh my man was messaging a coworker inappropriately and he cant get her moved as it'll be suspicious... WHAT!! Nah he has played his part, otherwise it would be as simple as, hey HR this person is being inappropriate and its making me uncomfortable, here are the messages 🤣🤣

Or the other one, my man spent lots of money on my credit card and refusing to pay up... WHAT🤣🤣

What the fuck, we all play our part to with enabling such shit behaviour.

My Dad is dead. But we all agree he was indeed a pig.

You may not see women pissing on slip roads because they crouch down to do it.

Petrolheads is mentioned on here quite often so I had a look and it's a site for used cars. Why is this relevant, please?

Ok so have you told the other men in your life?

Here you go:

https://www.oilfieldtechnology.com/special-reports/09012020/being-female-in-a-male-dominated-industry/

"She added: “Engineering, and definitely in the oil and gas sector to which my sphere of experience is limited, is without question, a male dominated industry. In general, the ratio would be something like 30-to-1 or so from my general observations. Among the complete population of employees in my current role in Iraq – it would be closer to 300-to-1."

Bearing in mind i'm not saying they can't do it, i'm saying it is an industry largely dominated by men, Ergo, few women are doing the job either because they can't or don't want to.

I would conclude from the above that women largely don't do these jobs, not that they can't. Engineering, for instance, is largely an intellectual rather than physical pursuit anyway.

Glad to see this thread gradually fizzling out as people remember to take their medication.

Isn't that a little on the unkind side? The Rules preclude me saying more.

72% don’t think the OP is being unreasonable.

To be fair, she didn't say which side of the debate needed medicating. This is not obvious.

Quite.

If we're going to assess all 32m UK men on the actions of the 100 that commit femicide each year then surely we should also be looking at the other side of the coin. Like the 32,000 male firefighters in this country working in an industry that is 90% male staffed. It'd be interesting to know exactly how many female lives they save every year - certainly far more than 100. And that's before we consider things like which sex is the one giving their lives to stop tyrants like Putin. I'll bet Ukraine is grateful.

All this doesn't negate male violence but it's hard to argue that men don't provide a net benefit to women if you actually look at the statistics.

Somebody will no doubt point out that it's always other men that they're fighting against but that doesn't change the fact that we'd be fucked without good men to protect us from the bad men. How does the saying go....."People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf".

You only have to look at the plight of women in Afghanistan to see that this is the harsh truth. I always feel like feminists have a really blinkered view. Like, they'll dismiss the actions of good men by saying "oh, well what's the sex of the bad men they're fighting against?"

But you'll never ever hear a feminist or woke person say "FGM? Meh, it's black on black violence. Who's perpetrating it? It's always other people of colour".

Unless you read my previous posts 😆

I've been working in construction for around a decade. Not walking around with a clipboard or sitting in an office. Actually driving concrete trucks and tippers and using front end loaders to move aggregates around etc.

There's no reason why women can't operate heavy plant machinery. The excuse about physical strength doesn't really apply to pushing levers and steering. However, I'm yet to meet another woman that operates heavy plant. I've seen a middle aged woman driving a mini dumper on a HS2 site and another quite young woman driving a 60 ton ADT on a different site. Also an obvious butch lesbian driving one at another HS2 site but I don't know if that really counts if she identifies as a fella lol. But that's about it.

I do see quite a few female truckers though. HD Ricketts seem to have loads. There's about five different young women that come to our plants in arctic tippers and only about two blokes. Possibly because the MD's daughter is a driver. But overall I'm not sure it's even one in a hundred.

100% women don't want to do these jobs. It's only feminists that have ever told me that women can't work in construction because of the 'rampant misogyny' and it's painfully clear most have never set foot on a jobsite. I obv didn't get the memo as it's not even on my radar tbh but I'm glad I didn't read any of that stuff before choosing my current occupation because it might've put me off, although I doubt it.

Construction sites must be intimidating places for most women; after all, they are for many men. But, like STEM, positive encouragement for women to work in construction might be a good thing.

Also an obvious butch lesbian driving one at another HS2 site but I don't know if that really counts if she identifies as a fella lol

Butch lesbians don't identify as fellas

Its not that women couldnt though. Women were held back in education, in work, in society for millenia. By... men

But some posters are actually saying all
overtly stating it’s all men

I think I'd find it scarier being a nurse tbh. Certainly a policewoman. But I've always loved fast cars and pickups so driving large vehicles doesn't bother me.

But I'm actually OK with unequal representation as long as it's the result of free choice, which I think it is. Equality of opportunity doesn't usually lead to equality of outcome IMO because most women will choose the careers that appeal to them when they have the freedom to. These aren't usually jobs where you get covered in mud and get dust in your hair everyday IME.

I'm not keen on forced quotas because it often results in people being hired for ideological reasons rather than for their individual meritsl. I recently read an example which I agreed with, which was that the standard of the NBA would likely fall if they mandated that there had to be a 50/50 split between black and white players.

I didn't mean in the trans way. More that they identify as masculine. Like, if you have a butch haircut, walk like John Wayne, and drive a tipper for a living you're not really exuding femininity.

Once more, with feelings - a couple of lists of women's crucial inventions stolen by men

https://historycollection.com/women-who-had-their-work-stolen-from-them-by-men/

https://www.notesfromthefrontier.com/post/inventions-by-women-but-men-got-the-credit

These lists are non exhaustive of course

Did all the female refuse collectors also have their jobs stolen from them by men? 🤔

Complicated question; when galvanised bins full of ash had to be lifted to shoulder height and tipped not many women would have found this easy. Not many men could do it all day. Now we have wheelybins is the work environment uninviting or do no woman actually want to do it?

Anecdotally, men working on tarmac gangs had to be capable of the occasional fist fight to avoid bullying - would this be a welcoming environment for women?

I am sure you are largely right, but I think there are still practical and psychological bars to women working in some jobs, even if they fancied doing so.

Lock the door.

Doesnt say they cannot do the jobs.....

Still can't see point of this thread 🤷🏼‍♀️