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Men... are u okay? What is the problem?

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LavenderSkiesxo · 20/05/2026 15:02

I think this will be removed / deleted but i am not saying anything untrue. Or factually incorrect. But here goes...

Since having my little girl just over a year ago I have started resenting men. I dont know why as my partner isnt bad. I just see them in a whole new light.

Firstly, years ago women couldn't vote and it was the done thing that they would look after the children and home and men were the providers. But, many women (not all!) Now have careers, go to work, earn their own money. We can now vote. Aswell as have a career, many women still take on majority of the housework and childcare. Not because men always refuse but they just dont, we do things automatically. Men, just dont think.

The other day I was driving to visit family and saw a car with its hazards on in the slip road... they have broken down i thought. Nope. A man was standing behind his car pissing. It got me thinking, ive never seen a woman pissing at the side of the road. We just wouldn't, so how do men find themselves in this situation? My dog can hold its bladder until "walkies" so what's the issue?

I read that men commit like 91% of murders, most rapes are men and men mostly abuse their partners. Men are more likely to commit suicide, men dont open up and speak about their feelings.. some men transition to become "women" and fight to enter women spaces. I know women transition to men but you dont hear about them!

I just dont understand. Men.. what is the actual problem??? Apart from sperm, what is your actual purpose??

The posts on here today.. oh my man was messaging a coworker inappropriately and he cant get her moved as it'll be suspicious... WHAT!! Nah he has played his part, otherwise it would be as simple as, hey HR this person is being inappropriate and its making me uncomfortable, here are the messages 🤣🤣

Or the other one, my man spent lots of money on my credit card and refusing to pay up... WHAT🤣🤣

What the fuck, we all play our part to with enabling such shit behaviour.

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AccidentallyWesAnderson · 20/05/2026 19:37

TheignT · 20/05/2026 19:31

But don't you agree that the belief woman = safe was a dangerous message? Do you think a woman offering them a lift made them feel it was safe.

Please give women some credit, a normal person, male or female, doesn't start torturing and murdering children just because they've met a nutter.

I’d take my chance with a woman over a man any day of the week. Yes there are some horrific women, but not on the scale that men are. Not even close. Statistically proven.

Anxietyxxx · 20/05/2026 19:38

Im more scared of women then men.

TheignT · 20/05/2026 19:39

Ninapertree · 20/05/2026 19:36

No of course she was wrong.

But it was his idea. Not hers.

So he was in prison and gave her the idea to commit murder? I suppose she was scared as well.

To go back to my point do you think it is a good idea to warn girls about men but let them think a woman being present makes them safe?

TheignT · 20/05/2026 19:40

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 20/05/2026 19:37

I’d take my chance with a woman over a man any day of the week. Yes there are some horrific women, but not on the scale that men are. Not even close. Statistically proven.

But the message got some of those women/girls killed because they thought the woman meant they were safe.

Justsewsew · 20/05/2026 19:40

LavenderSkiesxo · 20/05/2026 19:03

I feel like I should create a poll and find out who removes their shoes for a piss

It has never occurred to me to do that, I squat really low and have never pissed on my shoes.

But if I did i dont think I would mind as its usually wheh dog walking and I am mostly wearing wellyboots

Edited

I wondered why but then thought if you can't squat perhaps then maybe you do need to take it all off?

Ninapertree · 20/05/2026 19:40

TheignT · 20/05/2026 19:39

So he was in prison and gave her the idea to commit murder? I suppose she was scared as well.

To go back to my point do you think it is a good idea to warn girls about men but let them think a woman being present makes them safe?

I was talking about myra hindley not rose west

Ninapertree · 20/05/2026 19:41

Anxietyxxx · 20/05/2026 19:38

Im more scared of women then men.

Not physically though im sure

LeaderBee · 20/05/2026 19:43

Creali · 20/05/2026 19:18

@LeaderBee do you understand what the gender pay gap means? Your posts seems like you don’t.

Yes, i am aware the gender pay gap is supposedly there because of the disparity where women take time off for maternity and child care, not that women are actually paid less. However those are life choices so im not sure why you think there is a gap...or are you advocating to be paid more for doing less work?

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 20/05/2026 19:43

TheignT · 20/05/2026 19:40

But the message got some of those women/girls killed because they thought the woman meant they were safe.

That’s true, and very unfortunate. Still doesn’t change the fact that men are statistically more dangerous than women. That’s not the same as saying dangerous women don’t exist (I’ve met a few).

TheignT · 20/05/2026 19:44

CountBoscoTheSecondsWife · 20/05/2026 19:30

Thankfully I don't know but I would hazard a guess that things have gotten worse since the increase in consumption and violence levels in Internet porn. I won't depress myself by clicking on the Incel reddit forum link.

The internet has proved to have many advantages but also many dangers. Not only porn but as a meeting place for people with the same warped ideas. They encourage each other and validate each other. People will reject strict censorship though.

TheignT · 20/05/2026 19:48

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 20/05/2026 19:43

That’s true, and very unfortunate. Still doesn’t change the fact that men are statistically more dangerous than women. That’s not the same as saying dangerous women don’t exist (I’ve met a few).

But there is no logical reason not to warn girls that the dangerous ones can also be women. That isn't saying women are worse or as bad but being realistic and saying if you wouldnt get into a car with a strange man why would you get in if it was a man and woman. If the point is to protect girls/women then give them all the information.

Creali · 20/05/2026 19:49

LeaderBee · 20/05/2026 19:43

Yes, i am aware the gender pay gap is supposedly there because of the disparity where women take time off for maternity and child care, not that women are actually paid less. However those are life choices so im not sure why you think there is a gap...or are you advocating to be paid more for doing less work?

@LeaderBee it’s hard to know where to begin with someone who clearly has such a limited parameter to their knowledge. The knowledge gap I fear would take hours to fix.

Have you considered that without women taking ‘time off’ as you call it, from paid work, that there would be no business, no trade… no… furthering of the human race?

Ps having a baby isn’t working less, it’s working more.

Dillydollydingdong · 20/05/2026 19:49

I've got two men, both kind and gentle, thoughtful and generous. Both lovely! I don't know how I'd manage without a man, big and tall, strong and hardworking.. And 2 sons both lovely, (but I'm biased)!

LeaderBee · 20/05/2026 19:49

vitahelp · 20/05/2026 19:33

It isn’t all men but it happens that most stupid shit that happens has a man at the root of it. And I very rarely feel disrespected by a woman at work or see women disrespecting others, bur it regularly happens with men - becoming quite bored of it now.

Have you heard of the male genetic variance hypothesis?

LavenderSkiesxo · 20/05/2026 19:49

Creali · 20/05/2026 19:49

@LeaderBee it’s hard to know where to begin with someone who clearly has such a limited parameter to their knowledge. The knowledge gap I fear would take hours to fix.

Have you considered that without women taking ‘time off’ as you call it, from paid work, that there would be no business, no trade… no… furthering of the human race?

Ps having a baby isn’t working less, it’s working more.

Youre debating with a man

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TheignT · 20/05/2026 19:52

Creali · 20/05/2026 19:49

@LeaderBee it’s hard to know where to begin with someone who clearly has such a limited parameter to their knowledge. The knowledge gap I fear would take hours to fix.

Have you considered that without women taking ‘time off’ as you call it, from paid work, that there would be no business, no trade… no… furthering of the human race?

Ps having a baby isn’t working less, it’s working more.

I worked with a woman who had three weeks off when she had her baby and that included a two week holiday in France. Not something I'd choose but it's possible. I hated going back after nine months but we aren't all the same.

LeaderBee · 20/05/2026 19:54

Creali · 20/05/2026 19:49

@LeaderBee it’s hard to know where to begin with someone who clearly has such a limited parameter to their knowledge. The knowledge gap I fear would take hours to fix.

Have you considered that without women taking ‘time off’ as you call it, from paid work, that there would be no business, no trade… no… furthering of the human race?

Ps having a baby isn’t working less, it’s working more.

Men spend money as well you know. And yes, raising a child is work, but it isnt work that generates money?

Its a strawman argument

RidingGirl · 20/05/2026 19:56

LavenderSkiesxo · 20/05/2026 19:15

Absolutely. He was fucking crackers.

Then missy you were made for each other.

As previously mentioned men invented basically everything you use, want, and rely on. So I suggest you do without every single thing in your life including procreation and then ask “of what use are men?” Other than keeping a stable and prosperous society and providing everything we all actually need throughout the entirety of history of course.

Creali · 20/05/2026 19:58

LavenderSkiesxo · 20/05/2026 19:49

Youre debating with a man

@LavenderSkiesxo it’s certainly giving male

cucumber4745 · 20/05/2026 19:59

You are not wrong. It is not all men but is always man. My partner is a man, and he has his quirks but even he warns me about “some men” and calls them out on his shit related or not. The good men have no issue recognising and pointing at the shit men. And in my view this is their purpose and where the whole protection instinct kicks in - it is to protect us and our daughters from the bad man out there.

BigMusicFan · 20/05/2026 19:59

LavenderSkiesxo · 20/05/2026 15:10

Id be lying to say ive never pissed outside! Ive needed badly walking the dog before in the woods but have u ever just pissed in the corner of a street???

Before I post this I should point out I am a man but: I do remember one occasion (quite a few years ago) when a female friend of mine very obviously went to the toilet in a phone box! In her defence it was after a night out and she was extremely drunk!

Thesummer · 20/05/2026 19:59

Squirrel60 · 20/05/2026 15:08

I'm a woman, and at various times over the years, day and night, I've had to pull the car over and try to find some woods or behind a bush for a piss, getting my shoes and trousers off, piss, then back on as soon as I can, and a few times I've come dangerously close to being caught!

I know this is completely besides the point but... who on earth takes their shoes and trousers off to piss behind a bush??? Surely you just squat as wide and low as possible, hold your knickers and bottoms forward out the way and hope for the best? If I took my bottom half clothing off every time I probably would have been arrested for indecent exposure by now as there's no way I'd be getting everything back on in time before a poor unsuspecting dog walker came around the corner!

Pawpaw4 · 20/05/2026 20:03

Ninapertree · 20/05/2026 19:24

Myra hindley and rose west while evil, got dragged into what they did by their male partners.

Myra said she never had any thoughts of killing until she met ian. I dont know exactly how true this is. But she said that he threatened to kill her family unless she joined him

Evidence from investigators and psychologists says that Rose West was not coerced and was an equal partner in these heinous crimes. She was also solely responsible for murdering her daughter as Fred was in prison. Evidence says that she was the more evil of the two.

crackofdoom · 20/05/2026 20:05

RidingGirl · 20/05/2026 19:56

Then missy you were made for each other.

As previously mentioned men invented basically everything you use, want, and rely on. So I suggest you do without every single thing in your life including procreation and then ask “of what use are men?” Other than keeping a stable and prosperous society and providing everything we all actually need throughout the entirety of history of course.

Stable?!?!

Men keep society STABLE?!

😆😆😆

cobalt123 · 20/05/2026 20:05

RidingGirl · 20/05/2026 19:20

You’re angry that they couldn’t begin voting themselves and their men, and especially their children out of existence many years earlier? Is Switzerland a better country than say the UK or France right now? I think you’d agree it probably is. They’re behind in the liberal/socialist trajectory that we’ve all been sent down, in part since women began voting for the likes of new Labour etc and now the “Greens”.

Eh? Are you saying it would be better if women couldn’t vote so there would be less people voting for liberal parties? Wow…