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Men... are u okay? What is the problem?

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LavenderSkiesxo · 20/05/2026 15:02

I think this will be removed / deleted but i am not saying anything untrue. Or factually incorrect. But here goes...

Since having my little girl just over a year ago I have started resenting men. I dont know why as my partner isnt bad. I just see them in a whole new light.

Firstly, years ago women couldn't vote and it was the done thing that they would look after the children and home and men were the providers. But, many women (not all!) Now have careers, go to work, earn their own money. We can now vote. Aswell as have a career, many women still take on majority of the housework and childcare. Not because men always refuse but they just dont, we do things automatically. Men, just dont think.

The other day I was driving to visit family and saw a car with its hazards on in the slip road... they have broken down i thought. Nope. A man was standing behind his car pissing. It got me thinking, ive never seen a woman pissing at the side of the road. We just wouldn't, so how do men find themselves in this situation? My dog can hold its bladder until "walkies" so what's the issue?

I read that men commit like 91% of murders, most rapes are men and men mostly abuse their partners. Men are more likely to commit suicide, men dont open up and speak about their feelings.. some men transition to become "women" and fight to enter women spaces. I know women transition to men but you dont hear about them!

I just dont understand. Men.. what is the actual problem??? Apart from sperm, what is your actual purpose??

The posts on here today.. oh my man was messaging a coworker inappropriately and he cant get her moved as it'll be suspicious... WHAT!! Nah he has played his part, otherwise it would be as simple as, hey HR this person is being inappropriate and its making me uncomfortable, here are the messages 🤣🤣

Or the other one, my man spent lots of money on my credit card and refusing to pay up... WHAT🤣🤣

What the fuck, we all play our part to with enabling such shit behaviour.

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Ninapertree · 20/05/2026 19:16

UnemployedNotRetired · 20/05/2026 18:59

How did you know it was from a man?

Because it was outside my workplace, and the next day my colleague told me that she saw a man pissing there

Creali · 20/05/2026 19:17

@LavenderSkiesxo I completely agree.

Its not all men but it’s always a man.

Creali · 20/05/2026 19:18

LeaderBee · 20/05/2026 19:01

Do i have anything to say about the gender pay gap?

Yes if it was real then every employer in the country would have a business run by women since they would save so much more money paying their staff less than men, but that's not the case, is it?

@LeaderBee do you understand what the gender pay gap means? Your posts seems like you don’t.

Ninapertree · 20/05/2026 19:19

We need an ama with men on here.

We can ask them questions like "why are you like that'

RidingGirl · 20/05/2026 19:20

cobalt123 · 20/05/2026 15:25

I live in Switzerland since a year ago and was shocked that women only gained the right to vote here in 1971. It then took until 1990 to force the last region to act on this change. So not very long ago! It makes me very angry

You’re angry that they couldn’t begin voting themselves and their men, and especially their children out of existence many years earlier? Is Switzerland a better country than say the UK or France right now? I think you’d agree it probably is. They’re behind in the liberal/socialist trajectory that we’ve all been sent down, in part since women began voting for the likes of new Labour etc and now the “Greens”.

ToastSafeFromMothsAndDogs · 20/05/2026 19:21

UniquePinkSwan · 20/05/2026 15:10

The man bashing on this site is getting worse. If men did this on petrolheads you’d all be frothing

Men have covered acres of internet with films of women being raped so they can watch and masturbate.

Efrogwraig · 20/05/2026 19:22

Not all men. But always men.

Strandas · 20/05/2026 19:22

If you’ve never seen a woman peeing in the street, you obviously never had the dubious pleasure of clubbing as a teen in the late 90s/early 00s!!

Feis123 · 20/05/2026 19:22

beeautifullif3 · 20/05/2026 19:12

The problem is women 🤣
Being a man in 2026
Meet a nice lady , get married , have children , work hard while wifey stays home raising the kids.
Wife now has the husband , kids and house so can no longer be bothered to maintain a relationship with husband and yes ladies im talking about intimacy! Sex ! You know all that yucky stuff , coz now you got it all theres no point making the effort anymore right ? And let's not forget first time mums are practically useless these days aren't they , always posting on here , they cant cope , cant sleep, cant keep the house clean ect anyway moving on , it all then ends in divorce, man loses his house , his family and oooh yes wife then goes after his pension too because after all shes been staying at home raising the kids so she deserves whats hers ! Husband has been used , neglected , treated like a lodger for all those years and then loses it all and yet we wonder why men these days dont seem to want to settle down lol , oh and then theres the absolute toxic witches that will claim as much money as possible while destroying the mans relationship with his kids, alienation , false accusations, refusing contact . Shall I go in to the women who report false claims about abuse ? Man rejects woman's advances so she reports him for rape , gets caught out cheating oh no it wasnt it was rape , so not only destroying an innocent mans life but making it harder for women who have genuinely been abused to report and get justice. Yes I have my hard hat on , but its about time as women we started calling each other out on toxic behaviours. So there you have it 😏

Calling out on toxic behaviours has been done by classical authors for several centuries now - literally. Your list started with behaviours already described in Anna Karenin, many short stories by Maupassant, and (forgot who wrote) Phaedra. All done. People do not learn. Not one bit.

TheignT · 20/05/2026 19:22

LavenderSkiesxo · 20/05/2026 18:33

Not superficially. It was just strangers. But school material which warned the same all showed men

Myra Hindley, Rosemary West? Giving girls the impression that women are always safe let them kill girls.

Ninapertree · 20/05/2026 19:24

TheignT · 20/05/2026 19:22

Myra Hindley, Rosemary West? Giving girls the impression that women are always safe let them kill girls.

Myra hindley and rose west while evil, got dragged into what they did by their male partners.

Myra said she never had any thoughts of killing until she met ian. I dont know exactly how true this is. But she said that he threatened to kill her family unless she joined him

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 20/05/2026 19:27

TheignT · 20/05/2026 19:22

Myra Hindley, Rosemary West? Giving girls the impression that women are always safe let them kill girls.

🙄. There is a reason why Myra Hindley and Rose West gets mentioned in threads like these, they are notorious because they are RARE. I could name 20 male murderers and you wouldn’t have a clue who they were.

Edited to add - and there was a male accomplice, in both.

Pedallleur · 20/05/2026 19:28

UniquePinkSwan · 20/05/2026 15:10

The man bashing on this site is getting worse. If men did this on petrolheads you’d all be frothing

You know they have their own sites where they complain about women. Or they just use Facebook and don't care.

TheignT · 20/05/2026 19:28

LavenderSkiesxo · 20/05/2026 19:03

I feel like I should create a poll and find out who removes their shoes for a piss

It has never occurred to me to do that, I squat really low and have never pissed on my shoes.

But if I did i dont think I would mind as its usually wheh dog walking and I am mostly wearing wellyboots

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So you are doing alfresco weeing and then complain about men doing it?

YourWildAmberSloth · 20/05/2026 19:29

Your viewed is skewed. I would suggest therapy to get to the bottom of it before you inadvertently pass your fears/views/anxieties on to your daughter. Yes, it's important that she knows how to stay safe, but you also don't want her to live in constant fear of every man. There's also a risk that if you continue with the men =bad, women = good rhetoric, your daughter will be blind to the idea of women being a threat.

CountBoscoTheSecondsWife · 20/05/2026 19:30

JeannetteBlue · 20/05/2026 17:13

I had a look and I think you're somewhat right - the involuntary celibate reddit forum was banned several years ago as an extremely misogynistic site.

However, if anyone is interested in more current sexism, the men's rights subreddit might be of interest (mixture of valid concerns alongside massive sexism). https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/

Thankfully I don't know but I would hazard a guess that things have gotten worse since the increase in consumption and violence levels in Internet porn. I won't depress myself by clicking on the Incel reddit forum link.

TheignT · 20/05/2026 19:31

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 20/05/2026 19:27

🙄. There is a reason why Myra Hindley and Rose West gets mentioned in threads like these, they are notorious because they are RARE. I could name 20 male murderers and you wouldn’t have a clue who they were.

Edited to add - and there was a male accomplice, in both.

Edited

But don't you agree that the belief woman = safe was a dangerous message? Do you think a woman offering them a lift made them feel it was safe.

Please give women some credit, a normal person, male or female, doesn't start torturing and murdering children just because they've met a nutter.

ThisCandidMintGoose · 20/05/2026 19:33

Efrogwraig · 20/05/2026 19:22

Not all men. But always men.

it's not true is it.

vitahelp · 20/05/2026 19:33

It isn’t all men but it happens that most stupid shit that happens has a man at the root of it. And I very rarely feel disrespected by a woman at work or see women disrespecting others, bur it regularly happens with men - becoming quite bored of it now.

BiteSizedLife · 20/05/2026 19:35

Can we auto delete the spammy "well my son has been raised to be lovely and he would never xyz..." posts? They really clog up these threads.

All mothers think their sons are lovely, and most sons present as lovely young men to their mothers....

Ninapertree · 20/05/2026 19:35

TheignT · 20/05/2026 19:31

But don't you agree that the belief woman = safe was a dangerous message? Do you think a woman offering them a lift made them feel it was safe.

Please give women some credit, a normal person, male or female, doesn't start torturing and murdering children just because they've met a nutter.

They might do if they were under fear of dying themselves. Apparantly ian said to myra "dont back out or i will kill you"

TheignT · 20/05/2026 19:35

Ninapertree · 20/05/2026 19:24

Myra hindley and rose west while evil, got dragged into what they did by their male partners.

Myra said she never had any thoughts of killing until she met ian. I dont know exactly how true this is. But she said that he threatened to kill her family unless she joined him

Poor little innocent women being dragged into torture and murder. We all need chaperoning as we obviously aren't capable of controlling ourselves if a man is involved.

Didn't RW commit her first murder when FW was in prison?

chickenss · 20/05/2026 19:36

Gosh, this has become quite the two sided argument. I didn’t think many people will disagree with the gist of what op is saying I.e men do their job and are done while women do their job and then look after everyone and everything else…
Anyway, it’s an interesting thread.

Ninapertree · 20/05/2026 19:36

TheignT · 20/05/2026 19:35

Poor little innocent women being dragged into torture and murder. We all need chaperoning as we obviously aren't capable of controlling ourselves if a man is involved.

Didn't RW commit her first murder when FW was in prison?

No of course she was wrong.

But it was his idea. Not hers.

TheignT · 20/05/2026 19:37

Ninapertree · 20/05/2026 19:35

They might do if they were under fear of dying themselves. Apparantly ian said to myra "dont back out or i will kill you"

Yes and she went straight to the police like her brother in law did, or then again maybe she didn't.

You know she was a liar and manipulator don't you?