Is Kier Starmer a liar?

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Is Kier Starmer a liar - yes or no?

It's a simple question. I can't see this on the trending threads, so asking the question.

YABU: He reliant on civil servants to share information and is in the clear, he didn't know what he didn't know.
YANBU: He's the Prime Minister. Who happens to get briefings and knew.

No, I don't think he is.

And his name is Keir

Apparently, you can't say that a PM is a liar in the Commons. So, two MPs were removed.
https://news.sky.com/video/two-mps-kicked-out-after-pms-speech-on-mandelsons-vetting-13534241

He's a politician...so "YES "

First post nails it - I also get cross that people cannot arrange four letters in the right order but get outraged at a person.

There is no way in the world he can oversee everything - he relies on others. And if they don't give him the full picture then what do you think happens?

No, he’s not.

He is and the dogs in the street know he is.

I agree with this.

OP, what is the largest organisation, taking over from a 14 year inept leader, you have run?

I think he is. Disappointing really.
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Absolutely valid.

At the moment there is no concrete evidence he has lied.

I think he is a liar, generally. There’s a Declassified or DoubleDownNews clip proving it. However, in this case I suspect what happened is that the information about the vetting outcome was passed to McSweeney, and McSweeney never passed it along.

But I think McDowell is correct: Starmer appointed Mandelson as payback for his support in propelling him to the leadership of the party.

One didn’t need a vetting process to know that putting Mandelson in the role was a mistake. In that, Diane Abbott is spot on.

Sorry. But this story is totally rubbish.
If Kemi had her way there might already be British casualties in the Gulf
Total nonsense story.

No I don't think he is, not about this specific issue anyway

I'm valuing stability, over Corbinista crap. Sorry for the bluntness

Nah he's not. The whole thing is just the British Media trying to topple yet another British PM for the 24 hour news cycle, and because they don't want to pay their taxes.

You can't stand up in Parliament and call any MP a liar.

It won’t be the media that do it, if he goes it’ll be because his own MPs get rid of him.

Also two of the weirdest most unstable MPs, who gives a shit what Zarah Sultana about anything? She is like a stroppy teenager on steroids.

Of course he’s a liar he’s a politician

Thank you, good grief. How hard is it to spell Keir?

This

Good points

What relevance is that to the question is KS lying?

It's a lot to clean up after that show, isn't it?

If you can’t even spell his name…

What are you waiting for? Good old man-of-the-people Nige to come in and wave his magic wand?

Nightmare 😯