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Is Kier Starmer a liar?

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catspyjamas1 · 20/04/2026 19:34

Is Kier Starmer a liar - yes or no?

It's a simple question. I can't see this on the trending threads, so asking the question.

YABU: He reliant on civil servants to share information and is in the clear, he didn't know what he didn't know.
YANBU: He's the Prime Minister. Who happens to get briefings and knew.

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Walkaround · Today 18:04

The whole thing is absolutely ridiculous. Starmer should bloody well own the fact that:

  • he chose to appoint Mandelson;
  • he chose to make this public before vetting had been done because he self-evidently didn’t care about the result of the vetting(the only possible alternative interpretation is that he is such an incredibly stupid man that he didn’t think through the potential consequences of very publicly appointing Mandelson as ambassador then immediately publicly sacking him for “secret reasons” he should have waited to find out about before he made the appointment public);
  • he subsequently sacked Mandelson for something he knew about before he even appointed him (that he was mates with Epstein) due to public pressure, which makes him look weak;
  • he knew plenty of other things about Mandelson’s past that should have stopped him ever choosing the man to represent his country in the US; and
  • hardly anyone is going to believe that having stomached all the reasons why he should never have appointed Mandelson in the first place, he would nevertheless have sacked him for reasons the public very conveniently cannot have revealed to them, but which clearly are not that serious, because Mandelson has not been arrested for them and nobody is arguing that he did anything wrong in relation to them while he was Ambassador.

If Keir Starmer does not admit that he, not OR, is entirely to blame for Mandelson being appointed, he will drag the entire Labour party down with him. His current position is utterly indefensible. His total lack of charisma was only supportable on the basis that he was honest and would follow proper procedures, making a refreshing and much needed change from years of increasing corruption, feather-nesting and favours-for-mates-behaviours of previous administrations.

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Yep to all this. I think he’ll go when MPs realise how badly he’s scapegoated someone else for his failings.

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