The impossible has happened - Trump has made me a Keir Starmer supporter!

[mumofoneAloneandwell]

'This is not the age of churchill'

Thank God. Fucking orange twat.

Actually, that is a very fair point. I will ask mnhq to delete the post. Apologies.

He made a good point, even if his opening sentence was crass, the Wests involvement in other countries has all been a total failure, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan all have involved huge loss of life, more terrorism, not less.

Yet Badenoch wants more and more war, not her kids or yours, flying over Iran, let alone Trumps, they are all playing god and doubtless making huge amounts of money of the back of all this death.

But you can bet your last $ that had Starmer supported Trump inc using UK jets, she would be 100% against it and telling us all the UK should stand up to the USA and not be involved.

I know we all have very heated debates but it's good when we agree on things like this .

Blimey, Shirreff doesn't pull his punches, does he?

https://x.com/RnaudBertrand/status/2029743059861397764
Arnaud Bertrand
@RnaudBertrand

This is genuinely extraordinary: https://x.com/MicloutT/status/2029441221374992857/video/1

Speaking is General Sir Richard Shirreff, NATO's former Deputy Supreme Allied Commander Europe.

He says that the UK "should not, in any way, shape or form be involved with the Americans because they are being led by a couple of gung-ho nutters like Trump and Hegseth without a proper strategy and without serious thought about what the end state for this war is."

He goes on: "Yet again we have an American president who has gone to war, a war of choice, a war of hubris frankly, without ANY [the emphasis is his] clear idea of how the war ends and without any clear strategy." He predicts that "this thing is going to go south very, very quickly."

He highlights in particular just how foolish it was to kill Ayatollah Khamenei: "The idea of assassinating the Ayatollah Khamenei who was not just Iran's head of state but he was the religious symbol for Shiites worldwide. Assassinating him during the month of Ramadan is about as subtle as murdering the Pope on the steps of St Peter's in Holy Week. It will inflame the Shiite world and what you're doing by doing that is probably pushing large numbers of Iranians who might have been reconcilable, who might have thought about rising up, back into the fold of the irreconcilable."

And the presenter's face when Shirreff gets onto criticising Trump!

As always, eminently sensible with a firm grasp of the geopolitics of the region.

Rapid blinking!

Tell me non of you have links to the actual people of Iran without telling me.

Interestingly that clip of a live interview seems to have been filmed from TV onto a viewer's phone, and the person who originally posted it says:

Michele #FBPE#FBPPR 🇪🇺🇬🇧🇯🇲🔸
@MicloutT
Did you see this interview yesterday on Sky? Needless to say they aren’t showing the clip.
6:17 am · 5 Mar 2026
https://x.com/MicloutT/status/2029441221374992857

I certainly haven't been able to find it on the Sky News website (might just be my search-fail).

Should I be starting a 1000-post thread headed "Why is Sky not reporting on this? Is Sky hiding from us the well-informed opinion of a former Deputy Supreme Allied Commander of NATO, because they're scared of not appeasing Trump?"

What do the actual people think? Now all of Tehran has been carpet bombed?

Gloriia seems to think UK has declared war on Iran.

It hasn't.

Just because US feels obligated to obey Israel when it attacks one of its neighbours, UK is not obligated to obey US.

You can quote me directly where I've said that rather than a weird 'gloriia thinks..' comment?

If you rtft it's about wibbly Starmer sitting on the fence then doing lots of yeah but no but hand wringing.

Gloriia seems to think (see above) that we should join in with a war that Israel wants.

UK is not at war, and is under no obligation to obey US.

Starmer is not sitting on the fence either, he has made the UK's position clear.

'Gloriia seems to think UK has declared war on Iran'

Not quite the same thing is it

gloriia seems to think (see above) that we should bomb a country to satisfy US demands even though we are not at war with it.

You know I'm here yes? What a strange way to post like trying to encourage a pile on or something.

Gloriia thinks we should support our allies to get rid of terrorist supporting regimes.

...because he doesn't want to upset his Islamic voters. After Gorton he now has the Green Party snapping at his heels

At the Iftar at Westminster Hall, Flim-flam Starmer was at great pains to boast about how UK wasn't getting involved in the attacks on Iran.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/starmer-praises-muslims-and-defends-iran-policy-iftar-westminster

The US appears to have targetted desalination plants first and then Iran retaliated

These are war crimes.

Blossomtoes thinks the US under Trump isn’t an ally to the UK. Insulting another country’s armed forces isn’t the behaviour of an ally.

Where is this reported?

Are you suggesting it is only Islamic voters agreeing with Starmer on this?

Polling suggests nobody is keen to go to war.

Iran said it was the United States that set a precedent for such attacks when it targeted a water desalination plant on Iranian soil.

“The US committed a blatant and desperate crime by attacking a freshwater desalination plant on Qeshm Island,” Iran’s Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi said in a post on X on Saturday.

“Water supply in 30 villages has been impacted. Attacking Iran’s infrastructure is a dangerous move with grave consequences. The US set this precedent, not Iran.”

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/3/8/bahrain-says-water-desalination-plant-damaged-in-iranian-drone-attack

PigletJohn hopes that Israel will not be destroying sewage works and water supplies with the intention of spreading disease.