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To wonder why people keep voting SNP?

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Carla786 · 31/01/2026 05:34

I don't know a lot about Scottish politics and I may be missing important things they've done. However, I used to have a lot of respect for Nicola Sturgeon but her handling of gender critical issues has destroyed that. The SNP do not seem very effective at reducing drugs, poverty, or other serious issues.
My understanding was that quite a few people vote SNP not because they want independence (which most Scots appear to not want) but because they think the SNP are more committed to Scotland sorcifically than Tories and Labour. How accurate is this though..?

Since most Scots appear to not want independence, I thought the SNP was probably high achieving in other areas & Tories & Labour seen as poor by comparison. Or is it more often seen as the best of 3 bad options? Or is SNP much more positive than the impression I've got?

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HorrorAndHaagenDazs · 02/02/2026 10:58

Differentforgirls · 02/02/2026 10:52

No they aren’t.

They are in court defending the concept that men have the right to be in female prisons.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 02/02/2026 11:03

Differentforgirls · 02/02/2026 10:52

No they aren’t.

Yes they ARE! Keep up.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 02/02/2026 11:05

Brefugee · 02/02/2026 10:36

If they had done it any other way, there is a possibility it could have been challenged legally and he really could have been allowed in a women's prison as an inmate. But it's been weaponised as 'causing harm to women' by enemies of the SNP, and then repeated and amplified. And yet, the outcome is that he went to a men's prison while never having put women in danger as he was never allowed any contact.

but all that means is: if he had challenged legally, they would have put that man in a women's prison.

It was a lucky day for Scotland's female prisoners that the photographer took That Photo.

It IS causing harm to women having males in female prisons. It’s against international human rights laws for good reason. There are still at least three violent men in female prisons in Scotland right now. Isla Bryson is not the only transwoman in question.

Differentforgirls · 02/02/2026 11:06

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 02/02/2026 09:13

DH is English. He has encountered many Scottish people who hate the English in the 30 years he’s been living here.

Could be just him.

Differentforgirls · 02/02/2026 11:11

Lillitut · 02/02/2026 09:26

It’s a fact! Places for Scottish students ARE capped!

I know they are but, as I posted, if you get the results, you’ll get a place.

Differentforgirls · 02/02/2026 11:13

Lillitut · 02/02/2026 09:29

My goodness! You CANNOT quote the National as proof of ANYTHING. It’s about as accurate as Pravda, and just as biased. I’m so embarrassed for you that you seem to have a subscription! Dear me Differentforgirls. You don’t seem to have any idea about how Scotland works at all.

A subscription to what? I googled.

Differentforgirls · 02/02/2026 11:15

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Differentforgirls · 02/02/2026 11:16

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 02/02/2026 09:37

Hope you are not saying that with a straight face 😂
Our children are failing due to this shambolic governmemt

Not any ones I know.

Differentforgirls · 02/02/2026 11:18

OllyBJolly · 02/02/2026 10:21

And that's the problem, isn't it! None of that is free - it all has to be paid for. Scottish students can't get into Scottish universities because they have to attract international students to make the fees. I'm over 60 and earn a 6 figure salary - I don't need free prescriptions or bus travel. The bus companies need the revenue though! Why should Scotland's working people earning an average salary be funding my travel and medicine? They're probably struggling to put food on their own tables!

How many of these "free" items have actually improved the education, health or social care of the people of Scotland? How much of it has contributed to solving our drug problem? Where is the support for small businesses that employ people and put wealth into communities?

I give you the AWPR and the Queensferry crossing (thanks Alex!) and the child payment but that is not a lot to show for 20 years in government. It should have been so much better than this.

So who are you voting for?

Differentforgirls · 02/02/2026 11:21

HorrorAndHaagenDazs · 02/02/2026 10:58

They are in court defending the concept that men have the right to be in female prisons.

No they’re not.

Differentforgirls · 02/02/2026 11:22

ThatBlackCat · 02/02/2026 10:59

Yes they most certainly are, get your facts straight: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8rm3kgp50xo

Yes and it didn’t say that. Which part of Scotland do you live in?

Differentforgirls · 02/02/2026 11:22

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 02/02/2026 11:05

It IS causing harm to women having males in female prisons. It’s against international human rights laws for good reason. There are still at least three violent men in female prisons in Scotland right now. Isla Bryson is not the only transwoman in question.

What have the prisoners said?

ThatBlackCat · 02/02/2026 11:24

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Oh do go away with your patronising misogynistic bs. And it is irrelevant how long he was in for.

ThatBlackCat · 02/02/2026 11:25

Differentforgirls · 02/02/2026 11:21

No they’re not.

Yes, they ARE! Stop lying!

ThatBlackCat · 02/02/2026 11:26

Differentforgirls · 02/02/2026 11:22

Yes and it didn’t say that. Which part of Scotland do you live in?

It most certainly does say that. If you cannot understand what it says, then why do you think it is saying then?

Nanalovesnature · 02/02/2026 11:40

I live in the West of Scotland and I think less people where I live will vote SNP, and fewer people are in favour of independence than used to be. But we have an SNP MSP and they will get in again next election I have no doubt. I believe we will have more people voting SNP and the reason is we have a very high percentage of people on benefits in Scotland and our benefits are more generous than in England and the people who are in receipt of these benefits will vote for the party that gives them the benefits and allows them to live very comfortably without having to even pretend to look for a job. There are more of these people than there are people working and paying tax, and for those of you in England who think you have it hard, we pay higher taxes here than you do to pay for all the people of benefits.

Differentforgirls · 02/02/2026 11:40

ThatBlackCat · 02/02/2026 11:24

Oh do go away with your patronising misogynistic bs. And it is irrelevant how long he was in for.

48 hours in isolation 👍

Differentforgirls · 02/02/2026 11:43

ThatBlackCat · 02/02/2026 11:25

Yes, they ARE! Stop lying!

Do you live rurally? Who are you voting for in May?

ThatBlackCat · 02/02/2026 11:44

Differentforgirls · 02/02/2026 11:40

48 hours in isolation 👍

Irrelevant. He should have been 48 hours in isolation in the MALE prison.

Differentforgirls · 02/02/2026 11:44

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 02/02/2026 11:28

Here’s one article. The others are behind a paywall. You’re a fan of google, you could’ve done it yourself.

https://www.sundaypost.com/fp/female-inmates-living-in-fear-of-abuse-by-trans-prisoners/

I thought she’d been in herself or actually knew some of the inmates.

Differentforgirls · 02/02/2026 11:46

Nanalovesnature · 02/02/2026 11:40

I live in the West of Scotland and I think less people where I live will vote SNP, and fewer people are in favour of independence than used to be. But we have an SNP MSP and they will get in again next election I have no doubt. I believe we will have more people voting SNP and the reason is we have a very high percentage of people on benefits in Scotland and our benefits are more generous than in England and the people who are in receipt of these benefits will vote for the party that gives them the benefits and allows them to live very comfortably without having to even pretend to look for a job. There are more of these people than there are people working and paying tax, and for those of you in England who think you have it hard, we pay higher taxes here than you do to pay for all the people of benefits.

Jesus 🤣

Differentforgirls · 02/02/2026 11:47

ThatBlackCat · 02/02/2026 11:44

Irrelevant. He should have been 48 hours in isolation in the MALE prison.

Tory? Reform?

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 02/02/2026 11:47

Differentforgirls · 02/02/2026 11:44

I thought she’d been in herself or actually knew some of the inmates.

So you didn’t read the article. Your responses are getting quite embarrassing.

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