To wonder why people keep voting SNP?

[Carla786]

I don't know a lot about Scottish politics and I may be missing important things they've done. However, I used to have a lot of respect for Nicola Sturgeon but her handling of gender critical issues has destroyed that. The SNP do not seem very effective at reducing drugs, poverty, or other serious issues.
My understanding was that quite a few people vote SNP not because they want independence (which most Scots appear to not want) but because they think the SNP are more committed to Scotland sorcifically than Tories and Labour. How accurate is this though..?

Since most Scots appear to not want independence, I thought the SNP was probably high achieving in other areas & Tories & Labour seen as poor by comparison. Or is it more often seen as the best of 3 bad options? Or is SNP much more positive than the impression I've got?

Some anectodal evidence on Twitter which I take with a large pinch of salt. Every young person I know who went to Uni got their first choice place.

It would probably be worth you spending just five minutes reading about how sovereignty and asset division work post independence, and another five on why London’s income figures look so high (hint: they’re largely about accounting location, not value creation) before posting stuff like this in future.

I expect it's along the lines of people like me, not Scottish and live in London, who keep voting Labour!

I'm very disillusioned but who else can I reasonably vote for, given my leanings and opinions?

The SNP are literally going to court for the right to put violent men in prisons with vulnerable women. 🙄

Having worked in the NHS primary care 2000-2008 in Scotland and 2008 -2016, and 2019-current in Scotland it's not fantastic either side of the border but slightly better in Scotland.

I don't think Wales or Northern Ireland are milk and honey either.

Then you will know that the government are going to court to have males in female prisons just as I said!

DH is English. He has encountered many Scottish people who hate the English in the 30 years he’s been living here.

Scottish education used to be something to be proud of. Under the SNP it’s been a constant downwards spiral. They even removed Scotland from the international comparisons because the destruction they have wreaked looks so bad for them.

So you haven’t seen the latest PISA scores or the exponential rise in violence figures. Goodness, you’re so ‘Weesht for Indy’!

I don’t know if you realise but corporation tax is very much dependent on where a company is headquartered. It’s why Google pays most of its corp tax in Ireland and Amazon in Luxembourg. Do you seriously think any company would choose to be headquartered in an Indy Scotland where there is zero regulation, or history of regulation?

It’s a fact! Places for Scottish students ARE capped!

My goodness! You CANNOT quote the National as proof of ANYTHING. It’s about as accurate as Pravda, and just as biased. I’m so embarrassed for you that you seem to have a subscription! Dear me Differentforgirls. You don’t seem to have any idea about how Scotland works at all.

For all you SNP voters, are you happy to continue going forward with how they have failed our children?
Really!!

They put Bryson a rapist in women females where females can't escape, HOW is that not putting women in danger? He is a FULLY INTACT MALE! Do you even realise that? A fucking RAPIST! With his penis intact. In a cell with a woman (most women in prison have a history of sexual and/or drug abuse and are vulnerable as it is). For goodness sake, use some critical thinking.

MALES are 50% of the population. Not '0.1%'. It's honestly strange how Mens Rights Activists manipulate and re-write facts and statistics to push their agenda. As if somehow there is a third sex: male, female, and 'trans' who are 0.1%. And that third sex is somehow allowed to take the rights of the male sex.

Lie, twist, distort, manipulate, re-badge and rewrite all you want, @Differentforgirls ; the fact remains that that "0.1%" of males are fully intact males with penis and testicles, and they should not be in change rooms, rape crisis centres, battered womens shelters or toilets where rape survivors like me are.

Hope you are not saying that with a straight face 😂
Our children are failing due to this shambolic governmemt

Classroom violence towards teachers in some areas is off the scale. I'd love to hear from some teachers on here.

But that’s not what you said and that’s not what they’re doing.

Yes it is what I said, and it's exactly what they are doing. Please don't lie! Or at least admit you did not read the article. It states plainly it wants to put male prisoners in the female prisons.

This is just untrue.

Bryson was at a women's facility for the prison service to assess. There for less than 48 hours, kept in isolation, no contact with women prisoners. This was so they could do a Health and Safety Assessment, which concluded he was a risk to female prisoners and would be removed to a male facility.

This could only take place on the prison estate, could only be done by the prison service, to prevent legal challenges. It had to be done this way.

If they had done it any other way, there is a possibility it could have been challenged legally and he really could have been allowed in a women's prison as an inmate. But it's been weaponised as 'causing harm to women' by enemies of the SNP, and then repeated and amplified. And yet, the outcome is that he went to a men's prison while never having put women in danger as he was never allowed any contact.

And that's the problem, isn't it! None of that is free - it all has to be paid for. Scottish students can't get into Scottish universities because they have to attract international students to make the fees. I'm over 60 and earn a 6 figure salary - I don't need free prescriptions or bus travel. The bus companies need the revenue though! Why should Scotland's working people earning an average salary be funding my travel and medicine? They're probably struggling to put food on their own tables!

How many of these "free" items have actually improved the education, health or social care of the people of Scotland? How much of it has contributed to solving our drug problem? Where is the support for small businesses that employ people and put wealth into communities?

I give you the AWPR and the Queensferry crossing (thanks Alex!) and the child payment but that is not a lot to show for 20 years in government. It should have been so much better than this.

My English husband got that in Lanarkshire. I'm sorry. I am getting that now in the South East of England . Not all but from the people with "aspirations", if you know what I mean. This country is a mess.

what is it you think they're doing then? since you just keep gainsaying what others are saying about the article?

I thought at the time of indyref that it was a shame yes didn't win. I wonder if it was bad campaigning by the Yes side, interference from outside (as with Brexit) or something else?

In general i don't find any party that aligns with all my beliefs. Were i Scottish, and were i in Scotland i would want to see robust figures on independence, with a 5, 10 and 25 year prognosis. But i would probably vote for Alba or SNP.

And then i would spend the next years campaigning for single sex spaces.

If they had done it any other way, there is a possibility it could have been challenged legally and he really could have been allowed in a women's prison as an inmate. But it's been weaponised as 'causing harm to women' by enemies of the SNP, and then repeated and amplified. And yet, the outcome is that he went to a men's prison while never having put women in danger as he was never allowed any contact.

but all that means is: if he had challenged legally, they would have put that man in a women's prison.

It was a lucky day for Scotland's female prisoners that the photographer took That Photo.

No they aren’t.

That is a complete and utter misrepresentation of what actually happened. But facts are not important to the anti-woman agenda.