To wonder why people keep voting SNP?

[Carla786]

I don't know a lot about Scottish politics and I may be missing important things they've done. However, I used to have a lot of respect for Nicola Sturgeon but her handling of gender critical issues has destroyed that. The SNP do not seem very effective at reducing drugs, poverty, or other serious issues.
My understanding was that quite a few people vote SNP not because they want independence (which most Scots appear to not want) but because they think the SNP are more committed to Scotland sorcifically than Tories and Labour. How accurate is this though..?

Since most Scots appear to not want independence, I thought the SNP was probably high achieving in other areas & Tories & Labour seen as poor by comparison. Or is it more often seen as the best of 3 bad options? Or is SNP much more positive than the impression I've got?

I don’t think it can be taken as a fact that another vote on independence would be in favour
There was a clear majority against the last time,and it was clear then ,that what people say in opinion polls differs from what they say in the cold hard light of the polling booth
Financially we would definitely be worse off for decades,the evidence on that is clear ,and I definitely don’t want that for my DC

What evidence?

I disagree. SNP have spent far more on universal benefits like free school meals, baby boxes, free transport for young and old people and free prescriptions than on 'cash handouts to the poor'. That's why they are failing to meet their poverty targets.

The reason we dont have much money is our payments towards national debt, which was exclusively run up by British governments.

We will be in an huge amount of debt in the future if we remain part of the UK. They have plans for nuclear energy which so far total 45 billion in infrastructure spending, for which Scotland is liable for a share. This is despite producing a renewable energy surplus of a third.

45 billion is a million a day for over 120 years. No wonder they push Better Together.

The SNPs own growth commission paper.

Err every single reputable economist predicting an absolute screaming shit show not enough for you?

And that.

But purely renewable energy isn’t a reliable source, hence why all other nations that rely heavily on renewables have a back up of nuclear.

Well you wouldn’t get into the EU if you go out to undercut member nation’s corporation tax rate, and I thought getting into the EU was a key part of the independence strategy. You see this is what I find hard to take about the Indy proposals. It’s as though they’re making up strategy on the hoof depending on what suits them at the time.

You lost me at “shit show”.

It’s a shame that some Scottish people are scared to go it alone. Shows you what UK propaganda can achieve with people who need looked after rather than looking after themselves.

You don't need to have nuclear as a backup.
Hydro-electricity is a proven technology which can store energy for later use, and we have that already, and capacity for more. What we don't have is investment for more, because it is being spent on hideously expensive nuclear infrastructure for the country next door.

So, why would you vote to pay for this, if you had the option to vote for independence instead?

Seriously?

No, I posted it for a laugh. What do you think?

Well that’s one explanation I suppose

Scotland gets an infrastructure budget to spend how it pleases. It built the queensferry crossing. It’s currently wasting money on ferries. Who do you think they’d borrow from if they were independent and how do you think the interest rate would differ from the current arrangement?

Good post.

There have been other dubious instances of SNP funding : what do supporters think of this one?

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx9972np27yo

This article last years shows more detail on teachers' issues.

https://theconversation.com/scottish-teachers-to-strike-over-pupil-behaviour-my-research-shows-what-theyre-dealing-with-247525

I'm a bit worried that you're sitting up all night researching the SNP's policies OP. Are you ok?

Just trying to bump her thread. No one is interested in her xenophobia.

Well how did it reach 16 pages then if no one was interested?

🤣 I had to be up early for another reason, I already knew about the Rein issue so I posted.

Hope.

That's why I vote SNP.

That red and yellow table of SNP achievements needs a number of fact checks
E.g. free bus travel for over 60s was introduced by Sarah Boyack, Scottish Labour. She also did the feasibility study for the Borders Railway and the bill to reopen it passed in 2006 under Labour/ LibDems. University tuition fees were abolished in 2001 by Labour.
And free period products is another Labour achievement, brought in by Monica Lennon in 2020.

Well here’s another of the SNPs “achievements”. This is essentially state facilitated sexual assault of a woman prisoner . Not only did the SNP put him in there they have actually spent public money going to court to defend putting a murdering man in with vulnerable female prisoners. It’s evil. How anyone can continue to vote for them is beyond me.

https://news.sky.com/story/transgender-prisoner-charged-with-sexually-assaulting-inmate-at-scottish-jail-13535790