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To think Britain is getting more racist ?

235 replies

JifNtGif · 28/11/2025 15:29

Overt anti "foreigner" / anti non-white discussions appear to be normalised at times these days. I don't remember this in previous decades. Was it just under the surface ?

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breezyyy · 05/12/2025 02:37

Nope.

nomas · 05/12/2025 02:40

hattie43 · 29/11/2025 05:19

I don’t think I’ve ever known this country so divided about everything , racism yes but also young v old , working class v middle class ? Woke v non woke , north v south it goes on , the culture wars are raging .

It’s what the government want no matter which party is in charge. Because if you have people arguing amongst each other, then you’re not looking at the utter shit show of the government that run the country.

breezyyy · 05/12/2025 02:43

nomas · 05/12/2025 02:40

It’s what the government want no matter which party is in charge. Because if you have people arguing amongst each other, then you’re not looking at the utter shit show of the government that run the country.

Exactly this.

They rule by keeping everyone divided and pointing the finger of blame at each other.

It has ALWAYS BEEN THIS WAY.

nomas · 05/12/2025 02:44

magicalmadmadamim · 29/11/2025 06:39

No.
People just don't want mass immigration the way it currently is, I am an immigrant myself in Europe and I know that most countries are rightfully much pickier about who they let over the border to gain residency.
It is neither racist nor insert word phobic to expect some level of scrutiny.
There is also the fact that the U.K is a very small island which is incredibly overcrowded, lets not pretend otherwise! Europe has fare more open spaces between towns and cities.
You need to have hatred in your heart for it to be racism
A mutual friend called me a racist c*nt a few months ago, all because i said the flags looked nice!
Needless to say she went in the bin after that.
The left seem to think its fine to call people names if their views don't align.
Most of these people haven't had their lives directly affected by immigration and sit in their ivory towers bleating away.

You need to have hatred in your heart for it to be racism

How far does this extend? Do you think it’s okay to say ‘I’m going to the p&%# shop’ as long as you don’t have racism in your heart? You can’t use immigration as an excuse to be racist. It’s one thing to express concern about the numbers of immigrants, that’s not racist. But it’s an entirely different thing to think that the excuse of immigration allows white people the right to abuse people of colour.

nomas · 05/12/2025 02:47

breezyyy · 05/12/2025 02:43

Exactly this.

They rule by keeping everyone divided and pointing the finger of blame at each other.

It has ALWAYS BEEN THIS WAY.

Agreed. It was especially apparent during the last government when Rishi Sunak was cynically talking about tackling immigration in quite harsh terms whilst at the same time allowing record numbers of immigrants into the country. So effectively he was allowing immigrants to take the flack for his policy. Will have to see if Shabana Mahmood does the same.

nomas · 05/12/2025 02:49

Buzyizzy217 · 29/11/2025 15:40

You’re not understanding the climate crisis if you think that a) India and Pakistan are going to be unaffected by the climate crisis, b) are basically saying you don’t want any refugees here at all and c) The Western World has caused this, we need to look after the population from these vulnerable countries.

Yes, I saw that one of the developing countries affected by the climate crisis has sued a western country for causing the damage. I forget the details. I really should look it up.

breezyyy · 05/12/2025 02:50

nomas · 05/12/2025 02:47

Agreed. It was especially apparent during the last government when Rishi Sunak was cynically talking about tackling immigration in quite harsh terms whilst at the same time allowing record numbers of immigrants into the country. So effectively he was allowing immigrants to take the flack for his policy. Will have to see if Shabana Mahmood does the same.

I was just about to reply to you.

Let us consider just how many posters on forums are legitimate. Let us remove online forums completely and then see how the governing bodies have a reach.

It’s such a load of bollocks.

It exhausts me how stupid people are.

nomas · 05/12/2025 02:58

breezyyy · 05/12/2025 02:50

I was just about to reply to you.

Let us consider just how many posters on forums are legitimate. Let us remove online forums completely and then see how the governing bodies have a reach.

It’s such a load of bollocks.

It exhausts me how stupid people are.

Yes, agreed, there are many bad faith actors around,

breezyyy · 05/12/2025 03:05

nomas · 05/12/2025 02:58

Yes, agreed, there are many bad faith actors around,

Paid agents for sure.

Iocanepowder · 05/12/2025 03:06

Also important to point out that immigrants in this country can also be racist. An immigrant relative of mine is very racist.

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