To think Britain is getting more racist ?

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Overt anti "foreigner" / anti non-white discussions appear to be normalised at times these days. I don't remember this in previous decades. Was it just under the surface ?

None of what you have said is facts. It’s just some opinions.

The immigration numbers are only marginally down because of some minor changes to made to system in 2023.

In any case, Labour will get pasted and out of power in too distant future. You can shout their virtues from the rooftops then. They will need some die hard supporters like you.

Racism and xenophobia was on the decline from thr 1970s through to the early 2000s.

Then in 2004 ish mass immigration started and people hate it. They hate it! No one ever minded the odd person from overseas just as the odd Brit emigrated too. But once people arrive literally in their millions it changes the country in ways Brits didn't want.

You can blame Russian propaganda or Nigel Farage if you like but it misses the point. Immigration was a non issue, and racism on the decline in the UK, up to 2004.

People have weird definitions of racism.

Racism was alive in 2010 when I reported a father calling young virgin girls "white whores" School told me that you can't be racist to white people and seemed to not understand racism.

He was an absolute lunatic screaming and shouting at the daughter so loud on the phone, she was shaking and I heard everything, she was telling him the girls weren't white whores. Nasty insulting man, she can't have had a nice life with that evil nut job, I hope she didn't turn into someone like him.

Anyway with the news title 'London's demographic change is unprecedented in peacetime' in the Tory graph and using 'replacement' I give it a short while and 'ethnic cleansing' will be standard language.

Ferage isn't responsible for changes in discourse, that man won't stay in Reform and become PM either, he isn't a long term threat to Labour.

I don't know why people still think calling me names bothers me, it doesn't, it's calling children Paedophilia type terms that bothers me.

More racist in comparison to what?

Definitely a lot less racist than the 70s and 80s (and probably any time before that).

Eastern European isn’t a race though. They are white Europeans the same as British people. I think there’s a difference between racism and dislike of foreigners. Racism can be directed at people who were born here.

No, it's getting less and less racist all the time.

And less sexist, misogynistic, classist, albelist and every other 'ist' you can think of.

Having concerns about mass immigration which every government agrees is problematic isn't racist.

I think people have forgotten what racism is and now attribute many things to racism which are in fact, not racism.

Fired up by GBeebies, Facebook and TwitterX?

From what I understand McSweeney will need all that family migrants money they made and exile to China, as the Americans, UK and Irish will not have him when a regime change occurs.

extra.ie/2024/10/15/news/morgan-mcsweeney-father

Think about what happened in the Balkans

yes it cuts both ways

i think we are tolerant but there is too much immigration nowadays and it is not needed

They aren't the same as West Europeans they were brought up outside Christendom in recent years so are of a different culture and world vew, as Albanians are in part Muslim and the rest were brought up as communists in the USSR. Poland and Hungary are happy to have their people emigrate and will not take migrants in return so are hypocritical IMHO.

No more than other countries. Certain elements of our press are professional shit stirrers.

This includes all races of people, right?

Racist people don't like being told they're racist..hmmm.

People are dissatisfied with thier lives and looking for someone to blame, migrants are the current boogeyman.

These same people will end up voting for the privately educated multi millionaire Farage, who they think if the common man. They'll also smile with glee about brexit and not be able to articulate a single benefit.

Guess you're someone who doesn't like being called a racist either..

Not RTFT but I case nobody has corrected you - this isn’t true. It’s based on some very, very poor maths.

Telling people immigration isn’t an issue doesn’t suddenly make things ok as they are. In fact, it makes people angrier because it means nothing gets done.

It’s actually enraging. I worry about my family being targeted (thankfully it’s never happened, everyone near me is lovely) AND I worry about the state of the immigration system (which has consequences for other services in the country, and some of the court judgements / immigration appeals etc. are just taking the piss).

People are fed up and attitudes like this push people towards Farage and friends.

Can you go through the maths for us?

In your maths for example do you keep increasing the UK aborted rates and include white Canadian MAID death rates?

Eh? What has Canada to to with anything?
I can’t find the detail on the maths but it was based on a misunderstanding of percentages.

You need to go through projected assistance suicide rates, if you haven't gone through the maths in fine details and used what date there is available from Canada, i do not understand how you can claim the maths wrong?

Because it’s completely irrelevant. I’m not engaging with you further.

Oh bless your little mind.

What don't you get about the concept that in a country where millions of people are struggling in terms of housing, social care, healthcare, education and money, people get pissed off when they see other people accessing those things who aren't from this country, aren't contributing and therefore shouldn't be benefiting from those things they have not contributed towards.

It's nothing to do with race.

People are equally pissed off if someone born here is not contributing but getting benefits of society that other people are not getting, but they are our citizens and therefore our problem.

And I'm equally pissed off if an American or Australian or French white person is being funded to live here by my taxes.

It's pathetic and simple-minded to shout racist when people object to British tax payers money going to people who are not British taxpayers. It's ridiculous.

Not engaging with me because you are too lazy to lay out all the maths workings out?

I am too lazy to critically think sometimes, which is why I asked you to bring your data here, I would have liked to go through it.

I note that human sex/slave trafficking in some countries is taking a back seat to human organ trade which gives better returns.

www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/canada-is-turning-its-assisted-suicide-regime-into-an-organ-donation-supply-chain/

Canada looks quite racist to me, this is why I think people want to stop looking at the maths, they don't want it to be true.

www.westernstandard.news/news/assisted-suicide-primarily-privileged-white-people-as-canada-leads-global-organ-market/50796

People are just uniformed (or just watch too much GB new!).

Let me try to explain one argument for immigration in simple terms...people are required to sustain an economy and drive economic growth. The current England and Wales birth rate is 1.41 (meaning for every 2 people that die, only 1.41 on average are born). The required birth rate to sustain a stable population is 2.1. As the birth rate is so low, especially in economies with aging populations, you need immigration.

The NHS and the care sector would collapse without immigrants propping them up. But people just don't like seeing (too many) brown / black faces.

Plus there statistically no evidence that immigrants commit more crime than British born people.

With your clearly oversized brain, care to explain how we sustain the current NHS and adult social care sectors without immigrants, with 21% and 30% non-british born national (often Nigerians) working in these sectors..the latter at minimum wage??