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Birmingham attack gone quiet ?!

346 replies

AlwaysHopefull89 · 08/11/2025 23:24

correct me if I have missed anything here on this… but has the news gone quiet on the woman who was attacked unprovoked in Birmingham? Do we know who done it?!

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JHound · 09/11/2025 13:08

Netcurtainnelly · 09/11/2025 12:52

You obviously dont know about how things were before care in the Community came in.

So what do you want the PM to do about mentally ill people attacking people on the street?

BluntPlumHam · 09/11/2025 13:23

@EvangelicalAboutButteredToast you need to calm down, I’m not sure why you’re going to the extreme lengths of defending this post and attempting to die on a hill which isn’t worth it but I feel you need an addressing.

With the Hutingdon stabbing threads speculating, wishing in fact that the attacker was an immigrant, this thread absolutely reeks of the same hope and speculation. So it’s no assumption per se it’s a very apt inference of the op’s intention. Op has rightly been called out.

The grooming gangs were sexual offences that weren’t charged with a racially aggravated element and rightly so. There wasn’t that legal hate crime component present there.

Two Sikh women were literally hunted down for their race and religion. Then raped. One outside on one her home. They were raped BECAUSE their rapists were motivated by hate towards their race and religion to rape them. I understand you and op don’t find this abhorrent enough to start threads on the reasons as to why however is one for you to explore yourselves.

Threads like op’s and the ones before started re the Huntington attack play into the reform and recent rise of white supremacy/far right narrative. They provide cover and take away attention from crimes that are being committed by far right thugs which are getting more and more nefarious. I would now even say they’re emboldening them.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 09/11/2025 13:47

EsmaCannonball · 09/11/2025 08:51

I'm heartily sick of 'mental health issues.' Some people are just raised to be callous, violent, sadistic bastards. Other people are nothing to them. They face no sanctions from their parents, their schools, the police or the criminal justice system. Even if they kill someone they are tiptoed around in prison and then released early to unleash destruction on the public again. Their 'mental health issue' is they've been allowed to get away with every single bit of bad behaviour all their life.

Absolutely 100% this.
I’m sick of it.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 09/11/2025 14:33

Whatnowsheila · 09/11/2025 09:46

That’s not what genetic fallacy is.

www.scribbr.com/fallacies/genetic-fallacy/

I’ve just read it and it sounds like the poster was correct and it is genetic fallacy.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 09/11/2025 14:36

NC543210 · 09/11/2025 08:15

Some of the replies on here are so sneery and embarrassing.
Get a life.
A race to be the most condescending... always the same posters too.

The government have form for covering things up remember. I don’t see an issue with someone questioning it?
And it did go quiet for a period and I too wondered why.

I agree there does seem to be a race to the most condescending and always the same posters too.
Usually claiming there are bots or Daily Mail or something to do with Reform.
The same could be said about them being bots or some left wing paper or Labour.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 09/11/2025 14:43

BluntPlumHam · 09/11/2025 13:23

@EvangelicalAboutButteredToast you need to calm down, I’m not sure why you’re going to the extreme lengths of defending this post and attempting to die on a hill which isn’t worth it but I feel you need an addressing.

With the Hutingdon stabbing threads speculating, wishing in fact that the attacker was an immigrant, this thread absolutely reeks of the same hope and speculation. So it’s no assumption per se it’s a very apt inference of the op’s intention. Op has rightly been called out.

The grooming gangs were sexual offences that weren’t charged with a racially aggravated element and rightly so. There wasn’t that legal hate crime component present there.

Two Sikh women were literally hunted down for their race and religion. Then raped. One outside on one her home. They were raped BECAUSE their rapists were motivated by hate towards their race and religion to rape them. I understand you and op don’t find this abhorrent enough to start threads on the reasons as to why however is one for you to explore yourselves.

Threads like op’s and the ones before started re the Huntington attack play into the reform and recent rise of white supremacy/far right narrative. They provide cover and take away attention from crimes that are being committed by far right thugs which are getting more and more nefarious. I would now even say they’re emboldening them.

You feel someone needs an addressing.
You’re very sure of yourself aren’t you.
I think I have spotted you on other threads trying to downplay attacks on people and claim racism to cover up.
😂

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 09/11/2025 14:44

JHound · 09/11/2025 13:08

So what do you want the PM to do about mentally ill people attacking people on the street?

I suppose it’s too late to have a reversal of care in the community.
Probably the country can’t afford it either.

Mewling · 09/11/2025 15:02

AlwaysHopefull89 · 09/11/2025 00:00

Why on earth would I tell you the exact area of Birmingham where my family live? Confused To say they live in ‘Birmingham’ was more than enough to confirm why I was even raising this question. Im not responsible for how people react.

You’re responsible for scaremongering. Birmingham is a huge place, which you’d know if you had family there, and means it’s extraordinarily unlikely that your “family” would’ve been impacted. I bet you’d have been here all day stirring the pot if it had been an attack by an immigrant. People like you make my blood boil. Someone has been seriously hurt and you’re using it to cause more harm.

BluntPlumHam · 09/11/2025 15:35

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 09/11/2025 14:43

You feel someone needs an addressing.
You’re very sure of yourself aren’t you.
I think I have spotted you on other threads trying to downplay attacks on people and claim racism to cover up.
😂

I am glad my post struck a nerve enough for a response albeit one without substance, which yes makes me even more sure of myself.

labtest57 · 09/11/2025 17:36

Whatnowsheila · 08/11/2025 23:26

Sorry op, not an immigrant. Better luck next time

What a nasty thing to say. The OP could be local and worried.

labtest57 · 09/11/2025 17:37

AlwaysHopefull89 · 08/11/2025 23:52

Fml 🤦🏻‍♀️

She doesnt owe you this information

TeenagersAngst · 09/11/2025 17:44

Westfacing · 09/11/2025 12:21

What do you think a PM Farage would do?

Stop and search massively ramped up for skunk and knives

Whatnowsheila · 09/11/2025 18:21

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 09/11/2025 14:33

I’ve just read it and it sounds like the poster was correct and it is genetic fallacy.

Well then you’ve not comprehended it. Genetic Fallacy does NOT mean dismissing a source as unreliable.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 09/11/2025 18:46

Whatnowsheila · 09/11/2025 18:21

Well then you’ve not comprehended it. Genetic Fallacy does NOT mean dismissing a source as unreliable.

What this.

Birmingham attack gone quiet ?!
Mewling · 09/11/2025 18:51

labtest57 · 09/11/2025 17:37

She doesnt owe you this information

Of course. But I’d bet my life they’re not local and worried. In fact, I’d suggest that they came on here last night to potentially ignite an argument. Striking that they haven’t been back to the thread today. Presumably because it hasn’t worked in her/his/their favour.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 09/11/2025 18:53

Whatnowsheila · 09/11/2025 18:21

Well then you’ve not comprehended it. Genetic Fallacy does NOT mean dismissing a source as unreliable.

As the other poster says “ when someone can’t fight the facts or the argument they try to diss the source”
“We judge a claim by paying too much attention to its source or history, even though this criticism is irrelevant to the truth of the claim.”
I think it is you that is not comprehending it.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 09/11/2025 19:04

BluntPlumHam · 09/11/2025 15:35

I am glad my post struck a nerve enough for a response albeit one without substance, which yes makes me even more sure of myself.

😂

Sometimeswinning · 09/11/2025 22:06

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CurlewKate · 10/11/2025 06:11

TeenagersAngst · 09/11/2025 17:44

Stop and search massively ramped up for skunk and knives

Then what?

TeenagersAngst · 10/11/2025 06:16

CurlewKate · 10/11/2025 06:11

Then what?

Confiscate prohibited items like knives that people use to randomly stick in the necks of women waiting at bus stops.

CurlewKate · 10/11/2025 06:31

TeenagersAngst · 10/11/2025 06:16

Confiscate prohibited items like knives that people use to randomly stick in the necks of women waiting at bus stops.

Then what?

TeenagersAngst · 10/11/2025 06:35

CurlewKate · 10/11/2025 06:31

Then what?

Reduce the number of crimes occurring where knives are randomly stuck into the necks of women standing at bus stops.

C’mon, Kate, if you’ve got something to say, just say it.

CurlewKate · 10/11/2025 07:27

TeenagersAngst · 10/11/2025 06:35

Reduce the number of crimes occurring where knives are randomly stuck into the necks of women standing at bus stops.

C’mon, Kate, if you’ve got something to say, just say it.

But presumably they’ll just go and buy another knife?

StrongLikeMamma · 10/11/2025 07:57

AlwaysHopefull89 · 08/11/2025 23:26

Right I’ve completely missed then thanks!! I checked the daily mail and couldn’t see anything Blush

Maybe don’t read such a shite paper ?

StrongLikeMamma · 10/11/2025 08:00

JHound · 09/11/2025 13:08

So what do you want the PM to do about mentally ill people attacking people on the street?

Improve mental health services?