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Has everyone forgotten Jonathan Ross and Sachsgate?

288 replies

Greedybilly · 18/10/2025 19:50

I love traitors but i detest Jonathon Ross. I clearly remember his vile phone calls to Andrew Sachs about his grandaughter. Along with his accomplice Russel Brand - vile, laddish behaviour. How is he even still working? Does he have mates in high places - people's careers have gone under for much less.
Also he makes my skin crawl and is ruining a damn good show.

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PrancingBean · 18/10/2025 20:48

Puppylucky · 18/10/2025 20:36

What ? A prank call?! Come on

You’re right. Just last night I called an elderly man and sniggered while my friend left sexual messages and then shouted “he fucked your granddaughter”

it was hilarious. Such a prank.

Keepoffmyartichokes · 18/10/2025 20:49

I would love to be as perfect as most of the posters on here, he made a mistake. Yes it was absolutely awful what he did but it was almost 20 years ago. Some people on here need to get a grip.

Iwanttoliveinagardencentre · 18/10/2025 20:50

I have never forgotten it and agree he his behaviour should have been career ending.

He is repulsive.

I could never really see the point of him before that disgusting episode but I make sure to never watch anything with him in it since.

It showed his attitude to women and his cruelty disguised as so called humour.

A pair of overgrown teenage bullies.

He isn’t fit to lick Andrew Sachs boots.

Thortour · 18/10/2025 20:52

I haven't. He has two daughters who are part of the pro trans movement. The entire family seem ghastly.

mydogisthebest · 18/10/2025 20:53

I really like him and always have. The only reason I am watching Traitors is because he is in it. I probably would not bother otherwise

SirRaymondClench · 18/10/2025 20:53

VivienneDelacroix · 18/10/2025 20:03

I agree. I feel the same way about Boy George. Disgusting men who in the real world would have been shunned by anyone with any sense.

I feel that way about BG. My old flatmate was a huge fan of his in the 90s and bought his autobiography.
I read it after him and was horrified by what a nasty little misogynist he is.

CoffeeCantata · 18/10/2025 20:54

Keepoffmyartichokes · 18/10/2025 20:49

I would love to be as perfect as most of the posters on here, he made a mistake. Yes it was absolutely awful what he did but it was almost 20 years ago. Some people on here need to get a grip.

It wouldn’t be possible for me to disagree with you more. Do you actually remember what happened?

And for what it’s worth, I think Andrew Sachs was a refugee from the Holocaust. He must have thought the country had gone downhill since his arrival.

BoredZelda · 18/10/2025 20:54

Yes. And worse, a whole lot of people have blamed Sachs’ granddaughter for being attention seeking and having orchestrated the whole thing to get herself a career. Utterly shameful, but the narrative persists. It’s never the fault of the sleazy middle aged men, always their young target to blame.

incognitomouse · 18/10/2025 20:55

I agree with @Puppylucky and I also thought it was a huge overreaction at the time.

Yes it was an absolute shitty thing to do but come on. The fact that Andrew Sachs then didn't talk to his granddaughter for years over it - that was his own doing. She did nothing wrong, other than make some questionable life choices, but who hasn't done that.

They apologised, there was no real damage done - it wasn't pleasant but worse things have happened. Far far worse.

sarahw131 · 18/10/2025 20:55

mumofoneAloneandwell · 18/10/2025 19:57

I mean, sexist comments about a woman usually go completely unpunished (especially back then!) so her being related to Andrew sachs meant justice was served 🤷‍♀️ and their show was cancelled

People in the media do far worse than that, even today, so I can let it go

You should watch some of Russell Howard's older stand up. And the first season of Would I Lie To You, i had a shock when I watched that, omg

Edited

Did you mean Russell Howard or Russell Brand? Just curious I’ve never heard anything like this about Russell Howard?

Greedybilly · 18/10/2025 20:55

@PuppyluckyAm I a viscious poster then?
'Family man' ' keeps his head down' - what does that have to do with it? So he's got kids and hasn't done anything actively awful for a few years to save his own ass!
Give him a medal!
He's a slime ball - vile towards women - horrible harrassment of an old guy purely for his own entertainment.
I just think he's slipped through the net for a long time when other misogynistic behaviour has been called out.
He never really apologised he just realised he had to stop being a dick before he lost his career and that's a very different thing.
And if that's me/social media visciously tearing a strip off yet another over paid dick on TV then so be it.

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PeonyBulb · 18/10/2025 20:56

No I haven’t forgotten but it’s old news and I just don’t care

deadpan · 18/10/2025 20:59

Greedybilly · 18/10/2025 19:54

@didntlikeanyofthesuggestions--well yes obviously but why? When others have been shot down for much less?

Because of when it happened, it was during a time when it still didn't really matter to the powers that be and he was a big name. If it happened now he wouldn't get away with it. Not that he should have got away with it then. Brand's so called comedy routines were way over the line but he was still given jobs ie: Celebrity Bake Off.

Audiprettier · 18/10/2025 21:01

Ditto!
he really is a creepy vile guy who obviously thinks he's magnificent.
He's spoiling Traitors for me too.
the sooner he's booted off the better!

Pollqueen · 18/10/2025 21:02

Can't stand Jonathan Ross and can't watch or listen to anything with him in it

mumofoneAloneandwell · 18/10/2025 21:02

sarahw131 · 18/10/2025 20:55

Did you mean Russell Howard or Russell Brand? Just curious I’ve never heard anything like this about Russell Howard?

Cardi B Drink GIF by MOODMAN

Well i'm glad you brung it up cos Ive been dying to talk about it!

I remember one of Russell Howard's sexist rants about childhood obesity being along the lines of:

'One woman said her kid doesnt want eat healthy food - well i think "ban your fanny until you can control what comes out of it"'

And another - 'there's a group of hens, all wearing velor trousers bejewelled with words like 'sexy' or 'nice arse'. Then there's their one fat friend who has 'nice eyes' written on them, bahahahaha'

Just nasty stuff. Hes since rebranded but the North remembers.

Ratafia · 18/10/2025 21:02

VivienneDelacroix · 18/10/2025 20:03

I agree. I feel the same way about Boy George. Disgusting men who in the real world would have been shunned by anyone with any sense.

Edited: Posted by mistake

Teaforthetotal · 18/10/2025 21:03

mydogisthebest · 18/10/2025 20:53

I really like him and always have. The only reason I am watching Traitors is because he is in it. I probably would not bother otherwise

Those who do like JR, what do you like about him?!I am genuinely curious.

mydogisthebest · 18/10/2025 21:04

Audiprettier · 18/10/2025 21:01

Ditto!
he really is a creepy vile guy who obviously thinks he's magnificent.
He's spoiling Traitors for me too.
the sooner he's booted off the better!

He is making Traitors for me. I really hope he doesn't leave soon. In fact I would like him to win although doubt he will. Probably drippy bore Lucy will

FirstCuppa · 18/10/2025 21:05

Teaforthetotal · 18/10/2025 21:03

Those who do like JR, what do you like about him?!I am genuinely curious.

Maybe it's the big pimp coats, as seen on others such as Leo Di Caprio, Kanye or Jared Leto... Birds of a feather...

PrincessSophieFrederike · 18/10/2025 21:06

I'm Gen Z & at uni so too young to remember this, but whole family are big Fawlty Towers fans & I've known about this for a while. Vile man.

Marina Hyde a while ago did a mea culpa because she treated it (like many at that time, not that that's an excuse) as prudish finger wagging. A good reminder of how 90s lad culture prude-shamed kickbacks against sexualised misogyny.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/sep/19/brave-victims-russell-brand-misogyny-deserve-full-support&ved=2ahUKEwi614ODxq6QAxWEXEEAHekRHcgQFnoECCwQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2mJLdsHLKT1crfwOONXru0

https://www.google.com/url?opi=89978449&rct=j&sa=t&source=web&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fcommentisfree%2F2023%2Fsep%2F19%2Fbrave-victims-russell-brand-misogyny-deserve-full-support&usg=AOvVaw2mJLdsHLKT1crfwOONXru0&ved=2ahUKEwi614ODxq6QAxWEXEEAHekRHcgQFnoECCwQAQ

Puppylucky · 18/10/2025 21:06

CoffeeCantata · 18/10/2025 20:40

Prank call!!?

To call an elderly grandfather on national TV and tell him you’ve fucked his granddaughter? And have a good old snigger about it?

Prank call?

What nightmare world are you living in?

It wasn't national TV it was Russell Brands radio show on 6 live - a late night show with notoriously edgy content in a very different time . Do you know what you are talking about at all?

Teaforthetotal · 18/10/2025 21:06

FirstCuppa · 18/10/2025 21:05

Maybe it's the big pimp coats, as seen on others such as Leo Di Caprio, Kanye or Jared Leto... Birds of a feather...

Wish I had the laugh emoji.His boiler suit in the traitors cracked me up.

YourAmplePlumPoster · 18/10/2025 21:07

There's an off button. Switch off and you will not have to see him.

CoffeeCantata · 18/10/2025 21:07

incognitomouse · 18/10/2025 20:55

I agree with @Puppylucky and I also thought it was a huge overreaction at the time.

Yes it was an absolute shitty thing to do but come on. The fact that Andrew Sachs then didn't talk to his granddaughter for years over it - that was his own doing. She did nothing wrong, other than make some questionable life choices, but who hasn't done that.

They apologised, there was no real damage done - it wasn't pleasant but worse things have happened. Far far worse.

What you say in your post proves that terrible damage was done.