Has everyone forgotten Jonathan Ross and Sachsgate?

[Greedybilly]

I love traitors but i detest Jonathon Ross. I clearly remember his vile phone calls to Andrew Sachs about his grandaughter. Along with his accomplice Russel Brand - vile, laddish behaviour. How is he even still working? Does he have mates in high places - people's careers have gone under for much less.
Also he makes my skin crawl and is ruining a damn good show.

Yes. 14 year olds I think ?

@OnlyOnAFriday - never heard of the stories, I know he was a father and a husband and his declining the invitation showed respect for women, to me at least

The past was certainly a different country!

I remember JR embarrassing several female guests with his crude sexual remarks and suggestions - Michelle Pfeifer was one. I felt ashamed of British TV on her behalf. She was clearly shocked.

Also, his brother Paul was on a reality show of some kind with the glamour model Abi someone..can’t remember her surname but she was very famous 15 years ago - and he just kept bullying her about her ‘beaky’ nose until she was extremely uncomfortable. His point was that she wasn’t the vision of perfection he thought she should have been. He was very, very far from an oil painting himself.🙄

I hope those times are gone.

Never liked Jonathan Ross. He was a good enough interviewer when interviewing men but with women, it might start ok tl then in about 2 minutes he would just be letching all over them and not really listening to them or asking good questions to elicit interesting answers, just teeing up the next sleazy double entendre, if he could be bothered to even do that.

I agree. I mentioned Sachsgate to my daughter when she asked me if I liked Jonathan Ross on Celebrity Traitors. Obviously, we didn't know about all the allegations of sexual misconduct against Russell Brand at that point, but it was disgusting behaviour and Jonathan Ross was egging him on like a naughty school boy hanging out with the cool kids.

Honestly this whole thread (assuming it's genuine and not a bunch of bots) is everything that's wrong with the world at the moment. The guy's a fairly middle ranking celebrity - on TV once a week in the UK only plus a weekly radio show. He acted like an overgrown schoolboy shouting down the telephone on a prank call 15(?) years ago - apologised, resigned from all his broadcasting responsibilities with the BBC and has kept his head down ever since. He is a family man with 3 kids and a wife he clearly adores and supports multiple charities. And still vicious posters on here want to attack and smear him with the usual default "perv" / paedo allegations. And before anyone accuses me of anything - I quite like him and find him watchable but it's more about being totally sick of seeing human beings being ripped apart on line.

@Christwosheds - was not aware of that.

I’m no particular fan of Ross’s but I’m not sure it’s completely reasonable to compare him to someone convicted of assault and false imprisonment.

I also think you have an odd view about the real world if you think that someone would be widely shunned for a horrible “joke” they made nearly 20 years ago.

Oh, come off it. Most of us don’t have sonething quite this disgusting in our twenty-years-ago stories.

Also the sainted John Peel. He admitted to several encounters with underage fans in the 70s, but he died before the climate of sexual permissiveness changed.

The lesson from this is a depressing one: some powerful men will do whatever they want if allowed, and also the behaviour of famous people is very much influenced by the moral climate fostered by broadcasters such as as the BBC. While the BBC was tolerant of all kinds of misogyny, they took advantage of. And the BBC very much enabled such as Saville and Harris.

What ? A prank call?! Come on

Ah yes, the heartening moral self righteousness of someone who slept with underage children.

I haven't forgotten it but I disliked him before that and still do.

Prank call!!?

To call an elderly grandfather on national TV and tell him you’ve fucked his granddaughter? And have a good old snigger about it?

Prank call?

What nightmare world are you living in?

Ohh I had forgotten he was involved with that. Of course!

why wasnt he cancelled?

I hate it every month when 6 music do a tribute to the paedo.
I also abhor JR in light of the Andrew Sach incident. I think it still has shock value today. He also seems talentless?

"I remember JR embarrassing several female guests with his crude sexual remarks and suggestions - Michelle Pfeifer was one. I felt ashamed of British TV on her behalf. She was clearly shocked."

He was the same with Gwyneth Paltrow. Puke. He was actually at his best playing an interview completely straight and seriously, because he could come across quite nice and get a guest to relax and talk, but with any remotely attractive woman he just defaulted to sleaze like they are just fuck toys not human beings. What was the point of even asking them any questions, he could have just walked them on set, got them to do a twirl, slavered over them for a bit and sent them on their way. It would have had the same effect.

Mind you the benchmark nation's favourite proper chat show host at the time was the beloved Parky. Smug git and a self satisfied, shit interviewer of both sexes but especially women.

It was shockingly disgusting even by the standards of back then.

’To err is human, too forgive is divine’

He made a mistake, he apologised, gave up his commitments and moved on. So should we. If he repeated his behaviours then that’s different but honestly this cleansing of anyone who doesn’t meet a perceived ‘good enough’ is just odd to me and where does it leave people who do commit mistakes? No ability to rehabilitate? Ever?

I am happy to just not like people and choose to not watch what they are in. I hate ‘cancelling’. If we get it wrong it destroys peoples whole livelihoods.

I can't say I'm still fussed about it tbh.

Do you work at the BBC by any chance?

I've seen many wonderful, inspirational, kind, intelligent people be dicks.

Everybody's a dick at some point.🤷‍♀️

I agree with you. I like him, I always have.

He acted like a complete dick 20 years ago, his show was cancelled, justice done. I’m not aware of any sleazy stories about him, he has been with his wife since 1986 and is supportive of his children.

David bowie, 🤯🤔👀

"Also the sainted John Peel. He admitted to several encounters with underage fans in the 70s, but he died before the climate of sexual permissiveness changed."

Yeah, DH waxes lyrical over JP's contribution to new music and that whole Boat That Rocked type era. And I say, oh you mean the guy Tim Westwood seems to have modelled himself on? Statutory rape John Peel? That John Peel?