National Trust & tampons

[oncemoreuntothebeachdearfriends]

NT have made free tampons available in the gents' toilets in a castle in the Lake District. Not unisex toilets, but actual gents.

Not just any tampons, but vegan tampons (WTF are they?).
And they're also available in the ladies.

YABU They are demonstrating what a kind, caring organisation they are, & covering their arses.

YANBU They are bonkers, tossers... add your own words.

This happened near us when the local authority brought in free sanpro for anyone who needs it. There was slight uproar until it was pointed out that there are Men and boys who care for Women & Girls and they may also benefit from the free provision.

Sadly it became clear the scheme didn’t work in public toilets as they were all taken (in bulk, far more than a woman could use in a month or even a year) within minutes of restocking so now they’re working with the local supermarkets to have free provision after the tills to take as you need. Doesn’t all get swiped because it’s in public view. Free provision also available in the toilets of all public buildings.

DH says

• nose bleeds after a punch up
• bullet holes

Neither seems to fit with the usual ambiance or clientele of a NT site..

It seems an odd thing to be so worked up about.

Can you read?

This is what the laughing emoji was for.

It’s the chemicals used on the materials that are tested
plus some tampons contain animal by products

I wasn't aware there was a limit on the number of things we are allowed to worry about. Also, where did the OP say she was worried? Sounded more incredulous and pissed off to me. Personally, I'm fortunate to have sufficient brain power to be incredulous and pissed off about a great number of things.

Why worry about it?

Me neither! Never seen it at any property.

I blame the small boats and Meghan Markle

Not worried, but as said above, incredulous.

BTW, Sizergh Castle

My mum will love this - she always bangs on about how woke they are and refuses to go.

I think I’m being dim (I do have a horrible cold).

Who would use the men’s toilets - women who have transitioned to men or men who have transitioned to women?

I think the latter …?

Do men who have transitioned to women have periods? I didn’t know they would?

Genuine question. May be wrong on either of my assumptions.

Some tampons are tested on animals, not just the chemicals.

The point is, it's the thin end of the let the 6 foot 5 man who began to identify as a woman 5 minutes ago, with size 13 feet, a full beard and a history of child sexual offences swing his planet-sized testicles in 10 year old DDs line of sight in the swimming pool changing rooms to be a 'good person' wedge.

Obviously
It's incase one of the men has a nose bleed
Tampons are great for that

OP, vegan means it includes no animal products.

It does not do you any harm. It doesn't do anyone else any harm either. No harm is caused by anyone of either sex using the gents. No harm is caused by making the gents a welcoming place for anyone who wants to use it.

They'll soon get rid of them when they start getting flushed down the toilets and blocking the 'historic draining system' 😄

Transmen use the ladies, because they're women.

Really ?

I learn something new every day on MN.

Of course they are.

Putting them in the men’s loos doesn’t mean anything’s being taken away from the women’s loos, FFS.

Struggling to see why this is even a problem for gender-critical people. For whatever reason, someone who is biologically female might prefer to use the men’s toilets. That might be because they consider themselves to be and appear male - or it be because they are a woman who is simply butch and gets mistaken for a man so often that she gets abuse when she uses the women’s loos (this has happened many times to one of my colleagues, who is a butch lesbian, to the point where she feels safer in the Gents - it’s happened to her a lot more in recent years).

Regardless of you what think about the way those women present themselves - in what way are you as a woman being harmed by them choosing to use men’s toilets, and by tampons being present in those facilities?

Men aren’t going to catch periods by seeing a tampon. Given that there’s currently a thread on here about a man who kicked off because his wife accidentally left a wrapped sanitary towel where her son could see it, I’d say it’s a good thing for boys to see sanitary products in spaces that aren’t exclusive to women.

You can of course think it’s ridiculous, but it doesn’t have any impact on women. At all.

A trans man should, by law, be in the women’s toilets.

It's for trans men, no?

(women who present as a man but still have a period)

So still there for women.

No, of course they don't.
They don't acquire a uterus when they "transition".
How could they?
Amazed that this needs to be explained.