To be so fed up amd disheartened with all the xenophobia

[Nohqters]

Honestly, I’m just feeling worn out and heartbroken lately. It seems like racism and xenophobia are becoming more and more mainstream again, wrapped up in the same tired scare stories, whether it’s splashed across a tabloid or coming straight out of Farage’s mouth. Then you see stupid threads on here about civil war trying to stir up more hate.

Even my own brother has started sounding like Tommy Robinson. Ten years ago, that would’ve been unthinkable. It’s like people have completely forgotten the lies we were sold during Brexit—by Farage, Tice and their crowd—and yet they’re still lapping up everything they say. No critical thought, just blind anger pointed in the wrong direction.
I’m so fed up with the endless nonsense about small boats, “white minorities,” and all the rest of it. It’s all designed to divide us, stoke hate, and distract from the real culprits—rubbish politicians, broken policies, and the ultra-wealthy hoarding resources while the rest of us struggle.

But instead of looking upwards, it’s always “blame Johnny Foreigner.” It’s exhausting, and frankly terrifying how quickly people fall for it.

Is anyone else feeling this? How are you managing conversations when even close family seem to be buying into this stuff? I’m trying to stay compassionate, but it’s getting harder to bite my tongue.

Xenophobia seems to be OK when it's aimed at the English. I've lost count of how many threads are started hating on them.

We have no culture apparently. The rest of the world does, and it should be lauded and celebrated. But we don’t. The only ones in the world not to.

Good attempt

I agree. It’s a tragedy that instead of address issues head on with practical common sense, people with concerns with immigration are labelled as racist. What’s happened is it has taken the stigma/heat out the accusation as people laugh and think, “wait I’m not racist in the slightest, but I’m being called racist? Well then “racist” becomes a meaningless thing thrown about to shut down debate. It’s like the boy who cried wolf.

And for people saying that immigration is a distraction to keep the working class fighting each other while the rich get richer…mass immigration keeps wages down and makes the rich richer at the expense of the working class. Rishi Sunak wanted immigration to rise, to keep wages down and keep inflation steady. Mass immigration and class struggle are linked.

I personally live in an affluent area insulated from the impact of a lot of this stuff, and I think a lot of people who dismiss those who are concerned as racists/thugs/bigots are actually just very privileged and unable to empathise with people from poor towns who have seen the structure of their community change massively, combined with austerity and policies like not removing graffiti swiftly - it’s all built up to make them feel that their towns aren’t what they once were.

Labour need to get their act together, it shouldn’t be only “alt-right” parties like Reform who own the rhetoric around this issue - left wing parties who represent the working class should be the most nimble and solutions minded about safeguarding communities and workers wages and women’s safety.

More denial.

Haha me and my DH were watching Yellow stone on Netflix last night and in a scene at a rodeo they were riding a horse with the American flag flying and every one was singing the american anthem.

Both me and my Dh looked at each other and both said in sync that would not happen here it would be canceled and they would be locked up 😂

Sooner or later you'll realise that this line of attack doesn’t work any more. They can see the state of the towns and cities around them, and suddenly they're not bothered about being smeared by bad faith actors. They want the issue dealt with and no amount of teeth gnashing and snarling will make that sentiment go away. We have eyes and we can see whats going on around us.

so many lies on this thread ffs

only 44,000 illegal immigrants this year NOT ‘a million’

scare lingering facism and racism

No, just 1/10 for your offering

I'm not here to do your work for you!

Perfect example. The bullying into submission will only work on those, who are weak.

I think when a country is well run and the economy is doing well it's easier to cope with immigration. Unfortunately things are going badly wrong for the UK now and the population are stressed and miserable and this is why there's a backlash against more stress and competition for resources. The rape gangs don't help either, or the sexual assaults. Perhaps the migrants might be more welcome if they were mainly women and children, but the resources question would still apply.

It's awful. I don't have to deal with it in my own family, thankfully, but it has become so normalised. It's deeply depressing.

We are the minus scale for offerings of nicknames and gaslighting.

Do you want to borrow @awkwardasfuck `s label maker. I warn you though the glue is shit and the "fascism" & "racism" labels are nearly empty.

😆 🤣 😂 😹

Don't you like facts?

Usually but any facts from you wont hold up, your label gun has shit glue and every thing you have said so far is bollocks. So any thing you say will fall on deaf ears with me.

Poor quality of life is the fault of:

Poor policy decisions by multiple Governments
Brexit
The war in Ukraine and it's effect on prices
Lack of investment in infrastructure
Inflation
Etc

Yet we put 95% of the blame and focus on immigrants - how is that right?

That wasn't amusing or clever the first time round. Really banal "debate".

Quick @awkwardasfuck @ForWittyTealOP has a new "Banal" label, there is a chance that might stick but i doubt it.

Nicking that one @@skymagentatwo I know I will have plenty of opportunity to use it!

Oh dear.

Where did they state 95% of the blame - they never. You have plucked out that figure and I bet do not live even close to an area like this to understand peoples feelings .

'Progressives' stifle debate, when it doesn't suit their purpose. The tactics are well rehearsed.