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To be so fed up amd disheartened with all the xenophobia

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Nohqters · 04/08/2025 21:56

Honestly, I’m just feeling worn out and heartbroken lately. It seems like racism and xenophobia are becoming more and more mainstream again, wrapped up in the same tired scare stories, whether it’s splashed across a tabloid or coming straight out of Farage’s mouth. Then you see stupid threads on here about civil war trying to stir up more hate.

Even my own brother has started sounding like Tommy Robinson. Ten years ago, that would’ve been unthinkable. It’s like people have completely forgotten the lies we were sold during Brexit—by Farage, Tice and their crowd—and yet they’re still lapping up everything they say. No critical thought, just blind anger pointed in the wrong direction.
I’m so fed up with the endless nonsense about small boats, “white minorities,” and all the rest of it. It’s all designed to divide us, stoke hate, and distract from the real culprits—rubbish politicians, broken policies, and the ultra-wealthy hoarding resources while the rest of us struggle.

But instead of looking upwards, it’s always “blame Johnny Foreigner.” It’s exhausting, and frankly terrifying how quickly people fall for it.

Is anyone else feeling this? How are you managing conversations when even close family seem to be buying into this stuff? I’m trying to stay compassionate, but it’s getting harder to bite my tongue.

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FreezeDriedStrawberries · 05/08/2025 11:44

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 05/08/2025 11:41

Try reporting your own thread, OP, and ask MN to take it down.

The bile on here merely illustrates the problem that you started the thread to highlight. I hope that MN will delete it for you.

The bile on here merely illustrates the problem that you started the thread to highlight
Completely agree, and just said the same. Although am torn on whether I agree it should be taken down or not, maybe it should be left to stand so everyone can see it for what it is.

JamesMacGill · 05/08/2025 11:45

FreezeDriedStrawberries · 05/08/2025 11:44

The bile on here merely illustrates the problem that you started the thread to highlight
Completely agree, and just said the same. Although am torn on whether I agree it should be taken down or not, maybe it should be left to stand so everyone can see it for what it is.

Yawn.

Youcantwinthemall · 05/08/2025 11:45

I agree completely. I blocked a cousin yesterday because he posted a vile anti immigration rant that had zero factual basis to it. He is a well educated man so has no excuse. I take heart that there are others who are similarly appalled by it though.

JamesMacGill · 05/08/2025 11:45

FreezeDriedStrawberries · 05/08/2025 11:42

Flowers try and look on the bright side, at least it shows up that there is actually a problem when it comes to racism/xenophobia and YANBU

Racism against sex attackers and men who have deserted their female relatives to face the Taliban?

Simplestars · 05/08/2025 11:45

JamesMacGill · 05/08/2025 11:39

What’s that got to do with this? I’m a remainer, and hugely concerned about illegal immigration.

I understand what you’re saying about the shift from EU to non-EU migration, but for many people, the impact is what matters — and both legal and illegal migration can put the same pressure on housing, healthcare, and other services. Brexit was sold as a way to “take back control,” yet overall numbers are higher and illegal crossings continue, so it’s hard to see how that promise was delivered.

JamesMacGill · 05/08/2025 11:46

Youcantwinthemall · 05/08/2025 11:45

I agree completely. I blocked a cousin yesterday because he posted a vile anti immigration rant that had zero factual basis to it. He is a well educated man so has no excuse. I take heart that there are others who are similarly appalled by it though.

How nice to be appalled by a Facebook post when a 12 year old girl is receiving specialist care as we speak having been kidnapped, raped and strangled.

sleepwouldbenice · 05/08/2025 11:47

Wilfulignoranceabounds · 05/08/2025 11:42

What is your source for this “factual statement”, please?

I would like this source as well please. Genuinely would like to know this as farage quoted it the other day and the other quote he had was completely disingenuous

skymagentatwo · 05/08/2025 11:48

Back and i see not one person from the left has answered my question, I thought not all equally complicit.

Absentmindedsmile · 05/08/2025 11:48

And by the way sex realists (who you call ‘GC’) understand the most basic biology. And don’t want men in girls and women’s spaces. Are there parallels there?

Certainly there are people who obfuscate about some women having penises and parallels with a lack of ability (or willingness) to clearly define the terms they use in daily discourse.

FloridaCat · 05/08/2025 11:48

Nohqters · 05/08/2025 11:39

How can I get thread deleted, sick of the hateful comments and bile on here

Report your thread to MNHQ and see what they say.

I am sorry your thread has turned out this way. But it very much proves your point.

Simplestars · 05/08/2025 11:49

JamesMacGill · 05/08/2025 11:45

Racism against sex attackers and men who have deserted their female relatives to face the Taliban?

Serious crimes must be punished, but there’s no solid UK data showing boat arrivals commit more sexual offences than others. Research shows immigration isn’t linked to higher violent crime overall. We need better screening, not blanket labels.

Nohqters · 05/08/2025 11:49

FreezeDriedStrawberries · 05/08/2025 11:42

Flowers try and look on the bright side, at least it shows up that there is actually a problem when it comes to racism/xenophobia and YANBU

Yes the point has been proven, all the xenophobes duly turned out to spread their hate and bile

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FreezeDriedStrawberries · 05/08/2025 11:49

Thanks to the British being in control of their education system, my parents and their ilk were given to believe that the Mother Country saw them as fellow Brits. Thanks to Christianity, they were taught to forgive. They were taught about the motherland as if it was some kind of Utopia, full of work, joy and good will to your fellow man. They learnt the English language to a higher standard than anyone I have ever met who was born in this country
It's really interesting to hear your perspective, thank you (genuinely)
I've been reading a few celebrity autobiographies lately which have said the same.
Where they were invited to come over to help rebuild after the war etc, and that they were always thought of as British etc. Until they got over here and faced outright hostility and disgusting comments thrown at them.

JamesMacGill · 05/08/2025 11:50

FloridaCat · 05/08/2025 11:48

Report your thread to MNHQ and see what they say.

I am sorry your thread has turned out this way. But it very much proves your point.

What point? She wants it deleted as it has presented arguments she finds uncomfortable and irrefutable. She wants to indulge in luxury offence while a 12 year old is receiving specialist care having been raped and strangled. She hasn’t even mentioned this girl. If white men had kidnapped and raped an asylum seeking child, woah, I can only IMAGINE what her posts would be.

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 05/08/2025 11:50

FreezeDriedStrawberries · 05/08/2025 11:44

The bile on here merely illustrates the problem that you started the thread to highlight
Completely agree, and just said the same. Although am torn on whether I agree it should be taken down or not, maybe it should be left to stand so everyone can see it for what it is.

There are so many threads though. The racist bile on MN will be evident whether this particular thread is taken down or not.

jensondolally · 05/08/2025 11:50

@Zovcare to explain your comment on TV adverts / TV programmes and how it shouldn’t be construed as racist? I’ve asks once but you seek to be ignoring that point.

JamesMacGill · 05/08/2025 11:51

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 05/08/2025 11:50

There are so many threads though. The racist bile on MN will be evident whether this particular thread is taken down or not.

Still no comment on the 12 year old; and how many young girls being raped you think is a price worth paying to accommodate these men? 100? 1000?

FreezeDriedStrawberries · 05/08/2025 11:51

JamesMacGill · 05/08/2025 11:45

Yawn.

Productive comment, maybe take a little nap if you're that easily bored/tired

Absentmindedsmile · 05/08/2025 11:51

JamesMacGill · 05/08/2025 11:46

How nice to be appalled by a Facebook post when a 12 year old girl is receiving specialist care as we speak having been kidnapped, raped and strangled.

That poor girl 🥺

jensondolally · 05/08/2025 11:52

skymagentatwo · 05/08/2025 11:48

Back and i see not one person from the left has answered my question, I thought not all equally complicit.

What was your question?

BIossomtoes · 05/08/2025 11:52

JamesMacGill · 05/08/2025 11:51

Still no comment on the 12 year old; and how many young girls being raped you think is a price worth paying to accommodate these men? 100? 1000?

You’ve made enough comments for the entirety of MN. You’re obsessed.

MrsSkylerWhite · 05/08/2025 11:52

ForWittyTealOP · 04/08/2025 22:54

Yes it's upsetting and demoralising. Being overtly racist and prejudiced used to be something people kept quiet about unless they were sure they were in like minded company. . Now they're encouraged to call it "common sense". It's as ugly as it ever was, no matter what algorithm leads you down a rabbit hole of believing that most people are also racist.

Also being left wing and aware isn't an insult, no matter how many people try to manipulate us into thinking it is.

It is.
I’m not sure where I am politically these days, probably conservative with a small c. I welcome immigration, it’s made the UK what it is and abhor racism 🤷♀️
What I see being said by mainstream politicians these days is frightening.

Youcantwinthemall · 05/08/2025 11:52

JamesMacGill · 05/08/2025 11:46

How nice to be appalled by a Facebook post when a 12 year old girl is receiving specialist care as we speak having been kidnapped, raped and strangled.

I’m going to engage with you once and once only because I have read all your other posts and I am fairly confident nothing will penetrate - you’re firmly entrenched in your racist views. You do realise white, British men rape also don’t you? The ethnicity is irrelevant. Also, my cousin’s post was so easily proven as false that it confirmed to me that what was prompting it was racism rather than rational, thoughtful research so yes I blocked him because I choose not to associate with racists. Goodbye.

FreezeDriedStrawberries · 05/08/2025 11:52

jensondolally · 05/08/2025 11:50

@Zovcare to explain your comment on TV adverts / TV programmes and how it shouldn’t be construed as racist? I’ve asks once but you seek to be ignoring that point.

Yes, why is people who aren't white a problem when it comes to seeing more of them on the telly?

JamesMacGill · 05/08/2025 11:52

Btw I support permanent residence for Windrush, Afghan women (not that they have the chance to come here having been deserted) and rejoining the EU. So ‘racist’ won’t work on me.

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