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To be so fed up amd disheartened with all the xenophobia

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Nohqters · 04/08/2025 21:56

Honestly, I’m just feeling worn out and heartbroken lately. It seems like racism and xenophobia are becoming more and more mainstream again, wrapped up in the same tired scare stories, whether it’s splashed across a tabloid or coming straight out of Farage’s mouth. Then you see stupid threads on here about civil war trying to stir up more hate.

Even my own brother has started sounding like Tommy Robinson. Ten years ago, that would’ve been unthinkable. It’s like people have completely forgotten the lies we were sold during Brexit—by Farage, Tice and their crowd—and yet they’re still lapping up everything they say. No critical thought, just blind anger pointed in the wrong direction.
I’m so fed up with the endless nonsense about small boats, “white minorities,” and all the rest of it. It’s all designed to divide us, stoke hate, and distract from the real culprits—rubbish politicians, broken policies, and the ultra-wealthy hoarding resources while the rest of us struggle.

But instead of looking upwards, it’s always “blame Johnny Foreigner.” It’s exhausting, and frankly terrifying how quickly people fall for it.

Is anyone else feeling this? How are you managing conversations when even close family seem to be buying into this stuff? I’m trying to stay compassionate, but it’s getting harder to bite my tongue.

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sleepwouldbenice · 05/08/2025 11:52

JamesMacGill · 05/08/2025 11:46

How nice to be appalled by a Facebook post when a 12 year old girl is receiving specialist care as we speak having been kidnapped, raped and strangled.

How pathetic to see absolutely everything through this lense and not be able to understand more than one crucial issue

MrsSkylerWhite · 05/08/2025 11:53

(No idea where those emojis came from!)

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 05/08/2025 11:53

JamesMacGill · 05/08/2025 11:51

Still no comment on the 12 year old; and how many young girls being raped you think is a price worth paying to accommodate these men? 100? 1000?

It is terrible that a child was raped, but I am not going to engage with your attempts to weaponise her trauma to legitimise your racist bile.

SawPalmettoPrincess · 05/08/2025 11:53

Honest question. What do people think about the country of Australia? Are all of the people there racists because they stopped illegal immigration and took control of their borders? Would you visit Australia now, or would you be too concerned about their attitudes towards immigrants and foreigners?
Or is Australia somehow fine?

sleepwouldbenice · 05/08/2025 11:53

JamesMacGill · 05/08/2025 11:52

Btw I support permanent residence for Windrush, Afghan women (not that they have the chance to come here having been deserted) and rejoining the EU. So ‘racist’ won’t work on me.

Yes, you are

JamesMacGill · 05/08/2025 11:54

Youcantwinthemall · 05/08/2025 11:52

I’m going to engage with you once and once only because I have read all your other posts and I am fairly confident nothing will penetrate - you’re firmly entrenched in your racist views. You do realise white, British men rape also don’t you? The ethnicity is irrelevant. Also, my cousin’s post was so easily proven as false that it confirmed to me that what was prompting it was racism rather than rational, thoughtful research so yes I blocked him because I choose not to associate with racists. Goodbye.

But are those British men given direct access to their victim by the government? Are they let into this country unvetted, from much more misogynistic countries? We can’t DO much about home grown criminals apart from let the criminal justice system take its course. But the asylum rapists did NOT need to be here to gain access to their victims. Such a pathetic argument.

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 05/08/2025 11:54

JamesMacGill · 05/08/2025 11:52

Btw I support permanent residence for Windrush, Afghan women (not that they have the chance to come here having been deserted) and rejoining the EU. So ‘racist’ won’t work on me.

Is that the new equivalent of "but I have a black friend..."?

JamesMacGill · 05/08/2025 11:54

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 05/08/2025 11:54

Is that the new equivalent of "but I have a black friend..."?

Is your ‘racist’ the equivalent of ‘children being raped is a bit uncomfortable for me so let’s not acknowledge it’?

Brendahollowayreconsider · 05/08/2025 11:54

Absentmindedsmile · 05/08/2025 10:45

Well well well that is a way to avoid answering my question isn’t it. I hope @Brendahollowayreconsider is more intellectually coherent, and able to describe what she / he meant by ‘extreme far right’, given he she claims to have been ‘extreme far right’ in the past.

It's not a claim and giving up Neo Nazi ideology definitely wasn't a bad thing.
The 90s were a long time ago and people change for all types of reasons.
The extreme far right has never gone away.
I'm definitely not advocating all and sundry wander in to Britain but violence is not an answer.

skymagentatwo · 05/08/2025 11:54

jensondolally · 05/08/2025 11:52

What was your question?

I quoted a pro imigration poster using there facts and the question was

I'm going to open this up to all the left leaning supporters on here and no one has ever addressed this point.
Over 88% of the illegal boat immigrants are male (quote " they will NEVER bring their families over here".)
Most will struggle to get their sexual needs met, a majority of the local population of girls and women do not want to date them. So what happens next when you dump large numbers into local communities?

You have groups of sexually frustrated young men (many with different values and cultures), what are you going to do?

This is played out in prison systems also.

CaptainMyCaptain · 05/08/2025 11:54

millymollymoomoo · 04/08/2025 22:07

Perhaps just look at the crime stats and the actual costs associated. Fed up of the racist card thrown out all the time instead of having rationale debate about social and economic impact of taking in tens of thousands of illegals and nearly a million legal immigrants a year !

And here we are as per the thread title. I'm out.

BIossomtoes · 05/08/2025 11:54

SawPalmettoPrincess · 05/08/2025 11:53

Honest question. What do people think about the country of Australia? Are all of the people there racists because they stopped illegal immigration and took control of their borders? Would you visit Australia now, or would you be too concerned about their attitudes towards immigrants and foreigners?
Or is Australia somehow fine?

Given the way it treated its indigenous people - no it’s not fine. It’s a horribly racist country.

Wilfulignoranceabounds · 05/08/2025 11:55

FreezeDriedStrawberries · 05/08/2025 11:49

Thanks to the British being in control of their education system, my parents and their ilk were given to believe that the Mother Country saw them as fellow Brits. Thanks to Christianity, they were taught to forgive. They were taught about the motherland as if it was some kind of Utopia, full of work, joy and good will to your fellow man. They learnt the English language to a higher standard than anyone I have ever met who was born in this country
It's really interesting to hear your perspective, thank you (genuinely)
I've been reading a few celebrity autobiographies lately which have said the same.
Where they were invited to come over to help rebuild after the war etc, and that they were always thought of as British etc. Until they got over here and faced outright hostility and disgusting comments thrown at them.

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Yes, I can’t imagine. So many of them left their families to, nervously but excitedly, come here. When I think about it, it breaks my heart actually because, to be quite honest, even if they were welcomed with open arms, it would still have been so difficult. Imagine coming from such hot countries and being faced with British weather, especially in the winter when central heating didn’t even exist. But to be faced with racism and open hostility that you haven’t been primed for, I just can’t imagine.

FreezeDriedStrawberries · 05/08/2025 11:55

JamesMacGill · 05/08/2025 11:52

Btw I support permanent residence for Windrush, Afghan women (not that they have the chance to come here having been deserted) and rejoining the EU. So ‘racist’ won’t work on me.

Oh, well, you can't possibly hold any racist views at all then if you support Windrush. That makes it all ok Confused Hmm

FreezeDriedStrawberries · 05/08/2025 11:56

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 05/08/2025 11:54

Is that the new equivalent of "but I have a black friend..."?

Ha, exactly

SawPalmettoPrincess · 05/08/2025 11:56

BIossomtoes · 05/08/2025 11:54

Given the way it treated its indigenous people - no it’s not fine. It’s a horribly racist country.

Ok, and Germany now?

Shakeoffyourchains · 05/08/2025 11:57

NidaNearby · 05/08/2025 10:37

Funny you’re telling people to ‘educate themselves’ when you’re either telling bare-faced lies or are just exceptionally ignorant yourself.

A) There’s this little thing called ‘per capita.’ Nobody is denying the existence of native criminals, but the groups we are importing commit criminal offences, particularly sexual offences, at a significantly higher rate. That is making us all less safe.

B) No, net migration has rocketed because more people are moving here, because of changes made by Boris Johnson’s government. It has nothing whatsoever to do with fewer people leaving.

In 2015, pre-Brexit, 630,000 people moved here and 297,000 left, giving us net migration of 333,000. In 2023, post-Brexit, 1,218,000 people moved here and 532,000 people left, giving us net migration of 686,000.

So net migration has actually doubled even while gross emigration has increased, because gross immigration has doubled.

And it's funny you should mention lies and ignorance because the very per capita stats you're referring to were manipulated by some media outlets to push a particular narrative.

Like when The Telegraph claimed that nearly a quarter of sex crimes were committed by foreigners. Only, when you looked at the actual data, it showed that foreign nationals accounted for around 15% of convictions, roughly in line with the UK’s foreign-born population. They got to that inflated figure by lumping in the 8% of convictions listed as “unknown nationality” with the foreign-born total to create a more sensational headline.

Or the recent Sun article claiming 4 in 10 sex crime suspects in London were foreign-born. Turns out, it was based on a report by a so-called "think tank" that's just one person with links to Reform UK. They not only cherry-picked the Met data, they literally deleted columns and tabs that didn’t support their narrative.

JamesMacGill · 05/08/2025 11:57

FreezeDriedStrawberries · 05/08/2025 11:55

Oh, well, you can't possibly hold any racist views at all then if you support Windrush. That makes it all ok Confused Hmm

All you do - ALL you do - is say ‘racist’.

I can bring dozens of children being kidnapped and raped; and still, ‘racist’.

A woman being stabbed to death in the asylum hotel she worked in. ‘Racist’.

Hundreds of women being sexually attacked in ONE NIGHT in Cologne. ‘Racist’.

The attempted abduction of a 10 year old girl this week. ‘Racist’.

Pathetic, and you know it.

JamesMacGill · 05/08/2025 11:58

BIossomtoes · 05/08/2025 11:54

Given the way it treated its indigenous people - no it’s not fine. It’s a horribly racist country.

Is it racist for people to see non believers of their religion as worthy of death? I suppose not. Is there a term for that?

BIossomtoes · 05/08/2025 11:58

SawPalmettoPrincess · 05/08/2025 11:56

Ok, and Germany now?

Are you going to keep going through every country in the world until you get one right?

EasternStandard · 05/08/2025 11:58

SawPalmettoPrincess · 05/08/2025 11:53

Honest question. What do people think about the country of Australia? Are all of the people there racists because they stopped illegal immigration and took control of their borders? Would you visit Australia now, or would you be too concerned about their attitudes towards immigrants and foreigners?
Or is Australia somehow fine?

It’s not battling the same issues now, if posters choose to avoid it I’m sure they’d be happy with that.

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 05/08/2025 11:59

JamesMacGill · 05/08/2025 11:54

Is your ‘racist’ the equivalent of ‘children being raped is a bit uncomfortable for me so let’s not acknowledge it’?

No, I just don't hold all asylum seekers collectively responsible for the actions of a few. Because it would be racist to do so.

But like I said, I'm not prepared to engage with you on this. Attempting to weaponise the rape of a young girl to spread your messages of hate tells me everything I need to know about you. I don't believe for a moment that you give a shit about the safety of women and girls.

BIossomtoes · 05/08/2025 11:59

JamesMacGill · 05/08/2025 11:58

Is it racist for people to see non believers of their religion as worthy of death? I suppose not. Is there a term for that?

Is that what Aboriginal people believe? I never knew.

Petitchat · 05/08/2025 11:59

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JamesMacGill · 05/08/2025 12:00

BIossomtoes · 05/08/2025 11:59

Is that what Aboriginal people believe? I never knew.

I knew you’d try to get out of answering.

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