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To be so fed up amd disheartened with all the xenophobia

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Nohqters · 04/08/2025 21:56

Honestly, I’m just feeling worn out and heartbroken lately. It seems like racism and xenophobia are becoming more and more mainstream again, wrapped up in the same tired scare stories, whether it’s splashed across a tabloid or coming straight out of Farage’s mouth. Then you see stupid threads on here about civil war trying to stir up more hate.

Even my own brother has started sounding like Tommy Robinson. Ten years ago, that would’ve been unthinkable. It’s like people have completely forgotten the lies we were sold during Brexit—by Farage, Tice and their crowd—and yet they’re still lapping up everything they say. No critical thought, just blind anger pointed in the wrong direction.
I’m so fed up with the endless nonsense about small boats, “white minorities,” and all the rest of it. It’s all designed to divide us, stoke hate, and distract from the real culprits—rubbish politicians, broken policies, and the ultra-wealthy hoarding resources while the rest of us struggle.

But instead of looking upwards, it’s always “blame Johnny Foreigner.” It’s exhausting, and frankly terrifying how quickly people fall for it.

Is anyone else feeling this? How are you managing conversations when even close family seem to be buying into this stuff? I’m trying to stay compassionate, but it’s getting harder to bite my tongue.

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skymagentatwo · 05/08/2025 10:59

AnonymousBleep · 05/08/2025 10:57

Oh, fuck off. (And I can trace my family back to the Norman Conquest, before you start).

Oh look, if your the calabre of people coming over then I'm not surprised people are not happy, not very polite are you.

Just to add for the record I could not give a shit who you claim ancestors were, there not the ones moving here and abusing the very population you moved into.

FreezeDriedStrawberries · 05/08/2025 11:00

AnonymousBleep · 05/08/2025 10:57

Oh, fuck off. (And I can trace my family back to the Norman Conquest, before you start).

Yep, and add another one from me.
"Be more grateful!'

Ugh. 🤢

Zov · 05/08/2025 11:01

yallahbye · 05/08/2025 10:37

I suggest that all of you who are in favour of the ‘boat people’ take them in personally and house them in your own property. Feed these men (because that’s what they all are!) give them a weekly allowance and trust them around your children and your valuables. Put your bleeding-heart, woke leftist ideology to the test and take them in yourself! Not one of you will do that because you talk the talk but don’t want to walk the walk!
I want to see a poster who has done this and posts about his/her experience. I don’t want to hear that you WOULD do this, because talking about a theoretical faint possibility that will never materialise is worth JACKSHIT!

HALLELUJAH to this! None of this type will do this though.

I know a woman who is 'woke' and very leftie... She is middle class, and privileged, and got a massive pay out when she split with her DH. She has a £500K house all paid for (5 beds) to herself, and a monthly allowance from him that is more than some people get in wages.. (he was loaded!) She is ALWAYS going on like some of the left-wing posters on here (incl the OP!) And throwing out accusations of bigot and gammon to anyone who doesn't think like her. She's so tedious!

She told me late last year that she was 'taking in a refugee' for a while, and I thought 'oh she DOES put her money where her mouth is then?' I said 'Gaza or Ukraine, or ... where???' She said 'oh no. Sweden.' I was like 'Sweden?! Are at war are they? Who invaded them?' Confused With a tinkly laugh she said 'no silly, they're not at war. I'm taking in Astrid for 3 months. My friend Debbie down the road knows her mother, she's English, and married a Swedish man some years ago and lives there.. Astrid is her 23 y.o.. daughter.'

She continued... She said 'Astrid has just come back from 9 months of travelling, and her parents have downsized their house to a one bed apartment, as they are finding it hard work looking after their large three bed house... So there's only one bedroom now instead of three. So she's staying with me, whilst her father gets the 2 bed apartment done out that he's bought for her in Stockholm. It needs modernising and decorating. So she needs somewhere to stay for a while...'

Refugee? Hmm She is no 'refugee FFS! She's a fucking privileged westerner whose daddy has bought her an apartment in the city!

Typical woke left winger this woman. How embarrassing that she ACTUALLY called her a refugee. 😖

I just walked away silently, with this face >>> 😑

skymagentatwo · 05/08/2025 11:01

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EasternStandard · 05/08/2025 11:01

Nohqters · 05/08/2025 10:59

We colonised and pillaged a lot of their home countries through the empire. We decimated their countries long before you claim they do the same to ours. Colonisation has consequences

What do want to see happen?

Wilfulignoranceabounds · 05/08/2025 11:01

skymagentatwo · 05/08/2025 10:52

And there you have it, the thanks you get for providing you a new country to settle in "FUCK OFF" 🙄

“Thanks”? I’m here because my parents legally came here as immigrants from the West Indies, so this is where I was born. They were entitled to come here as citizens of the Commonwealth. How they and their ancestors came to be citizens of the Commonwealth is well-documented and nothing to be thankful about. I know that people like to start yawning when they get presented with the unpalatable actions of the British Empire but actions have consequences… some of them very long lasting.

AnonymousBleep · 05/08/2025 11:02

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JamesMacGill · 05/08/2025 11:02

Nohqters · 05/08/2025 10:57

You can't colonise half the world, pillage it for resources like the UK has done with its empire, cause conflicts elsewhere in the world and then complain when migrants turn up here. It's hypocrisy

Why do they want to turn up to their oppressor? Why not seek to transform their country given we are no longer pillaging it?

skymagentatwo · 05/08/2025 11:02

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Id suggest you read back through the thread. 🙄

AnonymousBleep · 05/08/2025 11:03

Zov · 05/08/2025 11:01

HALLELUJAH to this! None of this type will do this though.

I know a woman who is 'woke' and very leftie... She is middle class, and privileged, and got a massive pay out when she split with her DH. She has a £500K house all paid for (5 beds) to herself, and a monthly allowance from him that is more than some people get in wages.. (he was loaded!) She is ALWAYS going on like some of the left-wing posters on here (incl the OP!) And throwing out accusations of bigot and gammon to anyone who doesn't think like her. She's so tedious!

She told me late last year that she was 'taking in a refugee' for a while, and I thought 'oh she DOES put her money where her mouth is then?' I said 'Gaza or Ukraine, or ... where???' She said 'oh no. Sweden.' I was like 'Sweden?! Are at war are they? Who invaded them?' Confused With a tinkly laugh she said 'no silly, they're not at war. I'm taking in Astrid for 3 months. My friend Debbie down the road knows her mother, she's English, and married a Swedish man some years ago and lives there.. Astrid is her 23 y.o.. daughter.'

She continued... She said 'Astrid has just come back from 9 months of travelling, and her parents have downsized their house to a one bed apartment, as they are finding it hard work looking after their large three bed house... So there's only one bedroom now instead of three. So she's staying with me, whilst her father gets the 2 bed apartment done out that he's bought for her in Stockholm. It needs modernising and decorating. So she needs somewhere to stay for a while...'

Refugee? Hmm She is no 'refugee FFS! She's a fucking privileged westerner whose daddy has bought her an apartment in the city!

Typical woke left winger this woman. How embarrassing that she ACTUALLY called her a refugee. 😖

I just walked away silently, with this face >>> 😑

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Yeah, that sounds like it totally happened.

JamesMacGill · 05/08/2025 11:03

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She’s dyslexic. If you can’t grasp her basic point then her spelling isn’t the issue, it’s your analytical thinking skills.

JamesMacGill · 05/08/2025 11:03

Wilfulignoranceabounds · 05/08/2025 11:01

“Thanks”? I’m here because my parents legally came here as immigrants from the West Indies, so this is where I was born. They were entitled to come here as citizens of the Commonwealth. How they and their ancestors came to be citizens of the Commonwealth is well-documented and nothing to be thankful about. I know that people like to start yawning when they get presented with the unpalatable actions of the British Empire but actions have consequences… some of them very long lasting.

I’m not disputing the actions of the Empire. But that doesn’t mean we need an open border policy now.

AnonymousBleep · 05/08/2025 11:03

skymagentatwo · 05/08/2025 11:02

Id suggest you read back through the thread. 🙄

Why, have you been more articulate elsewhere? Honestly, for someone who's such a patriot, you don't even write like English is your first language.

skymagentatwo · 05/08/2025 11:03

JamesMacGill · 05/08/2025 11:03

She’s dyslexic. If you can’t grasp her basic point then her spelling isn’t the issue, it’s your analytical thinking skills.

Thanks at least some one has the courtesy to read the thread 😊

FreezeDriedStrawberries · 05/08/2025 11:04

Dangermoo · 05/08/2025 10:59

Well tv ads is where I dont agree. Ethnic minorities exist, and have as much right to be represented on TV. I don't like the objection to that and, quite frankly, that's when I do see racism.

This is why the "discussion" will always go round in circles. Because on the one hand people will say they've 'just got legitimate concerns" about there being too many people coming over, and then you get others who have a problem full stop with even seeing people who aren't white on TV. Yet you'll still get people saying "define racism' and "no such thing as racism" when there clearly is such a thing.
The so called legitimate concerns hides so much more underneath.

AnonymousBleep · 05/08/2025 11:05

JamesMacGill · 05/08/2025 11:03

She’s dyslexic. If you can’t grasp her basic point then her spelling isn’t the issue, it’s your analytical thinking skills.

Her 'basic point' just seems to be 'anti-woke' jeering. Yours seems to be that all Afghan men are rapists. I can see why you two are great mates.

skymagentatwo · 05/08/2025 11:05

AnonymousBleep · 05/08/2025 11:03

Why, have you been more articulate elsewhere? Honestly, for someone who's such a patriot, you don't even write like English is your first language.

Is that the best you can come up with? please try harder 😂

YourAmplePlumPoster · 05/08/2025 11:05

The Care for Calais CEO was on Nicky Campbell's show yesterday stating that the poor boat people are living in rat infested sub human conditions with cockroaches everywhere at which point Nicky intervened and asked him if he thought the 4 star Thistle hotel recently commandeered for migrants was sub human? The Care for Calais bloke then went on to say that asking a 14 year old girl for a kiss wasn't that bad really. Another little known fact is that when a hotel is commandeered by Serco all the hotel staff are turfed out and they bring their own people in. I wonder why the unions are so quiet about this.

skymagentatwo · 05/08/2025 11:06

AnonymousBleep · 05/08/2025 11:05

Her 'basic point' just seems to be 'anti-woke' jeering. Yours seems to be that all Afghan men are rapists. I can see why you two are great mates.

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We do not know each other, another false fallacy thrown out by you. You don't seem to get facts straight do you?

Zov · 05/08/2025 11:06

Nohqters · 05/08/2025 10:57

You can't colonise half the world, pillage it for resources like the UK has done with its empire, cause conflicts elsewhere in the world and then complain when migrants turn up here. It's hypocrisy

That was like a million years ago. Time to start moving on and getting over it. This old chestnut is getting rather stale.

yallahbye · 05/08/2025 11:06

Teanbiscuits33 · 05/08/2025 10:18

They don’t ’go back’ for the women as in cross the channel again, they apply for them to come over after they have refugee status, and the women stay. The reason the women and kids stay behind is because

  1. the journey is perilous so the men do it so the women and kids can come over safely after the men are settled, and

  2. women and kids are at risk of being trafficked, so it’s safer for them to stay behind initially for that reason.

Did you think they did two journeys in boats?

Stop being a delusional fool. They NEVER bring their families over here. Loads of them don’t even have families of their own yet - as in wife and children - as they are obviously too young. Even if they bring them over (which I massively doubt) YOU can take them in as I previously suggested here. Please take the necessary steps in order to achieve this, such as prepare a spare room and allocate a weekly allowance for them, feed and clothe them, teach them English etc..then get back on this thread and report your success rate. If you don’t/aren’t willing to do all this and just intend to lecture us, then stay quiet.
Anyone who favours these migrants but is not taking them into their own property, don’t have integrity and are dishonest.

Teanbiscuits33 · 05/08/2025 11:07

skymagentatwo · 05/08/2025 10:52

And there you have it, the thanks you get for providing you a new country to settle in "FUCK OFF" 🙄

Jesus Christ. Superiority complex or what? why should she thank a country for providing her a place to live as if it’s some act of selfless altruism. Are you ok? 😂😂 she pays her own way. If you moved to another country, would you be falling on your knees in gratitude? You’re off your rocker 😂😂 one of the funniest comments I’ve read on here. The entitlement!

AnonymousBleep · 05/08/2025 11:07

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Dangermoo · 05/08/2025 11:08

skymagentatwo · 05/08/2025 11:03

Thanks at least some one has the courtesy to read the thread 😊

Well said @JamesMacGillJ@skymagentatwo i was pleased to see last night's poster's bogotted posts, deleted. Those who call out bigots, exhibiting the same behaviour, aren't going to get credible recognition x

Zov · 05/08/2025 11:09

usedtobeaylis · 05/08/2025 10:46

Ugh this thread is minging.

Blame the OP. She started it. Did you think everyone was going to agree with her? Bit of a shock that many people aren't thinking from the middle of a 'woke' bubble eh? Wink

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