To be so fed up amd disheartened with all the xenophobia

[Nohqters]

Honestly, I’m just feeling worn out and heartbroken lately. It seems like racism and xenophobia are becoming more and more mainstream again, wrapped up in the same tired scare stories, whether it’s splashed across a tabloid or coming straight out of Farage’s mouth. Then you see stupid threads on here about civil war trying to stir up more hate.

Even my own brother has started sounding like Tommy Robinson. Ten years ago, that would’ve been unthinkable. It’s like people have completely forgotten the lies we were sold during Brexit—by Farage, Tice and their crowd—and yet they’re still lapping up everything they say. No critical thought, just blind anger pointed in the wrong direction.
I’m so fed up with the endless nonsense about small boats, “white minorities,” and all the rest of it. It’s all designed to divide us, stoke hate, and distract from the real culprits—rubbish politicians, broken policies, and the ultra-wealthy hoarding resources while the rest of us struggle.

But instead of looking upwards, it’s always “blame Johnny Foreigner.” It’s exhausting, and frankly terrifying how quickly people fall for it.

Is anyone else feeling this? How are you managing conversations when even close family seem to be buying into this stuff? I’m trying to stay compassionate, but it’s getting harder to bite my tongue.

🙋♀️ me too 😂🤷♀️

I don't give two fucks what you think.
I know the fuckwits that populate the extreme far right I've met them fuck I'm ashamed to say I was one of them.

It's always the women and children, who suffer. We are told the men go back for the women, after they have made the crossing to get here. That delusion gives you an idea of why some of the violent 'visitors' will always be protected.

So what changed your mind?

ETA: aside from the one comment about burning hotels down?

It's interesting to hear your perspective and insight,and that you've changed your views since.
What made you change your mind? Sorry if that sounds totally nosey, you don't have to answer of course, I just find it interesting!

Sorry see I've just cross posted with someone else asking the same thing

Spain has immigration and housing and social welfare problem with boat arriving immigrants …. Not British immigrants.

There are tent cities, squatters and people living on the streets. Some begging, and others mugging.

Im sure some Spanish people love the new arrivals, but equally, many don’t.

You lose credibility suggesting that the British in Spain are there as asylum seekers, refugees.

Also @Brendahollowayreconsider what does ‘extreme far right’ mean these days, to you?

Does that include all the dinghy bros?

Sorry to burst your bubble but your self righteous denunciation of your past is just waffle and hot air

It's actually really interesting and definitely part of the discussion/thread.
Dismissing every opinion you don't like with comments about oat milk latte etc says a lot more about you than you realise.

According to the Telegraph just ahead of the women's football final, the Spanish are a bit mystified by the British, but they arrive legally, buy or rent homes, have medical insurance and generally pay their way.

Most of the original EU countries are losing patience with migrants, unless they arrive legally with visas and jobs.

I'm amazed that we are called racists, at the drop of a hat. MN doesn't provide a platform for racists. I think I will carry on holding my views, within talk guidelines.

That it was pureil way of thinking to hate people on their religion or ethnicity it accomplished nothing.
Also some very strange characters,the NF organiser liked to spend time with teen skinheads oh and he got busted with child abuse magazines.
I was shown photos of a rock against communism rally..there were grown men dressed as Nazi brown shirts and some as Hitler.. fucking weirdos.

They don’t ’go back’ for the women as in cross the channel again, they apply for them to come over after they have refugee status, and the women stay. The reason the women and kids stay behind is because

1. the journey is perilous so the men do it so the women and kids can come over safely after the men are settled, and

2. women and kids are at risk of being trafficked, so it’s safer for them to stay behind initially for that reason.

Did you think they did two journeys in boats?

I think you cannot spot the irony, Im treating all the vocal left wing posters whom insist on sticking labels on every opposing view in the same indination and joke they are.

If you and your little squad would like to be taken more seriously learn to have civilised conversation without calling everyone racist, fascist, thick, uneducated ect. Until that point I will treat you all like the silly children you are acting throwing names around. Comprende?

Thanks for reaffirming my original.point, about delusion.

The deleted posts, speak volumes.

"My little squad"
What are you even on about? You do realise we're all individual posters on here, right?

Okay bright spark, you called me racist, so lets clear this up.

1st. I don't care what you call me, your a joke.
2nd What have I said what is racist?

Until that point I will treat you all like the silly children you are acting throwing names around

Point to me where I've done that.

What racist views?

So, by your logic, their country is so perilous (not to mention misogynistic) that they are forced to flee, yet their wife and kids remaining there exposed with no male protector for 2 years while they leg it and loiter in a hotel getting paperwork sorted is perfectly fine?

So, you want us to have respectful debate and say that calling you stupid, racist etc achieves nothing - which is correct I take that point, but as soon as I say something sensible that you don’t want to hear that goes against your existing beliefs, you shut it down and call me deluded. It’s not really a wonder people get frustrated. It’s pointless. There’s something more fruitful to be had out of banging one’s head against a brick wall.