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To be so fed up amd disheartened with all the xenophobia

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Nohqters · 04/08/2025 21:56

Honestly, I’m just feeling worn out and heartbroken lately. It seems like racism and xenophobia are becoming more and more mainstream again, wrapped up in the same tired scare stories, whether it’s splashed across a tabloid or coming straight out of Farage’s mouth. Then you see stupid threads on here about civil war trying to stir up more hate.

Even my own brother has started sounding like Tommy Robinson. Ten years ago, that would’ve been unthinkable. It’s like people have completely forgotten the lies we were sold during Brexit—by Farage, Tice and their crowd—and yet they’re still lapping up everything they say. No critical thought, just blind anger pointed in the wrong direction.
I’m so fed up with the endless nonsense about small boats, “white minorities,” and all the rest of it. It’s all designed to divide us, stoke hate, and distract from the real culprits—rubbish politicians, broken policies, and the ultra-wealthy hoarding resources while the rest of us struggle.

But instead of looking upwards, it’s always “blame Johnny Foreigner.” It’s exhausting, and frankly terrifying how quickly people fall for it.

Is anyone else feeling this? How are you managing conversations when even close family seem to be buying into this stuff? I’m trying to stay compassionate, but it’s getting harder to bite my tongue.

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jensondolally · 05/08/2025 09:55

VaseofViolets · 05/08/2025 09:49

Indeed I do. The Soviet Union and the Communist Party consistently referred to themselves as a socialist state, believing they were building the necessary conditions for a communist society.

Well yes, Hitler also called his party the National Socialists. Using the term is one thing. Using the ideology is quite another.

Dangermoo · 05/08/2025 09:55

MyNameIsX · 05/08/2025 09:55

Same here!

It was a literal LOL…

Edited

We're gonna need a bigger bingo card 😆 🤣

MyNameIsX · 05/08/2025 09:56

BIossomtoes · 05/08/2025 09:53

Nothing would ever change the abhorrent views these people hold, they’re way too entrenched and reinforced by Farage and his ilk.

Whats your view on the pejorative ‘gammon’ now please?

skymagentatwo · 05/08/2025 09:56

BIossomtoes · 05/08/2025 09:53

Nothing would ever change the abhorrent views these people hold, they’re way too entrenched and reinforced by Farage and his ilk.

So bright spark, explain to all us neanderthals what these abhorrent views are exactly?

FreezeDriedStrawberries · 05/08/2025 09:57

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Ooookay

MiloMinderbinder925 · 05/08/2025 09:57

MyNameIsX · 05/08/2025 09:46

I would not know in this case, because I am not wrong.

No amount of goading from you will change that.

Sorry/not sorry, for not biting.

You are wrong but you're too immature to admit it. Instead of admitting it and moving on with other examples of your original point, you're digging your heels in.

Dangermoo · 05/08/2025 09:57

skymagentatwo · 05/08/2025 09:56

So bright spark, explain to all us neanderthals what these abhorrent views are exactly?

I swear if we had a swear type Farage box, every time his name was mentioned, MN would be raking in the pounds.

BIossomtoes · 05/08/2025 09:58

skymagentatwo · 05/08/2025 09:56

So bright spark, explain to all us neanderthals what these abhorrent views are exactly?

RTFT. And numerous others, there’s plenty to keep you occupied.

VaseofViolets · 05/08/2025 09:58

Dangermoo · 05/08/2025 09:50

😆 🤣

This is the extent of your intellectual capacity? How embarrassing for you.

skymagentatwo · 05/08/2025 09:59

FreezeDriedStrawberries · 05/08/2025 09:57

Ooookay

Bye! would you like a your a right wing fascist scum bingo card before you go?

I`ll be handing them out, so we can all play spot left wing slur label by the small vocal left leaning MN commentators?

Dangermoo · 05/08/2025 09:59

VaseofViolets · 05/08/2025 09:58

This is the extent of your intellectual capacity? How embarrassing for you.

I'm embarrassed that you didn't spot what I did there.

Papyrophile · 05/08/2025 10:00

"If we all voted for a party committed to providing a good standard of living for EVERYONE, instead of the elite, we could live in harmony."

It is actually quite difficult for governments to whisk up a good standard of living for everyone -- as the last 35 years have shown. In addition, ask two or three random vox pops and you'd get very different definitions.

I used to think the Tories were more pragmatic -- until Boris and Liz; then I thought Sunak was getting to grips with the Brexit, Covid and Ukraine triple whammy, and had the economy starting to tick-over well. I hoped SKS would prove steady, honest and competent and that RR would be an inspired Chancellor. Instead she talked the economy into a tailspin. I cannot bring myself to contemplate Farage as PM, or Jezbollah... so politically adrift and planning to spoil any ballot paper right now.

skymagentatwo · 05/08/2025 10:00

BIossomtoes · 05/08/2025 09:58

RTFT. And numerous others, there’s plenty to keep you occupied.

So that would be a no then, you cannot. As usual the empty vessel makes the most noise.

JamesMacGill · 05/08/2025 10:01

VioletandDill · 05/08/2025 09:48

Alright then, majority immigrant then. And in the areas I've been in, majority non-white. I'll change it. My point was Farage and Tommeh would have a headfit in them.

Would you have a ‘head fit’ in Afghanistan do you think?

Dangermoo · 05/08/2025 10:01

skymagentatwo · 05/08/2025 09:59

Bye! would you like a your a right wing fascist scum bingo card before you go?

I`ll be handing them out, so we can all play spot left wing slur label by the small vocal left leaning MN commentators?

The name calling has started early today. It's the left's go to response, when posters aren't agreeing. Have we got enough room on the bingo card for the new addition "neanderthal"? 😆 🤣

FreezeDriedStrawberries · 05/08/2025 10:01

skymagentatwo · 05/08/2025 09:59

Bye! would you like a your a right wing fascist scum bingo card before you go?

I`ll be handing them out, so we can all play spot left wing slur label by the small vocal left leaning MN commentators?

Where have I even said anything like that?!
You're the one wittering on about "woke" and bizarrely going on about oat milk latte's and middle class suburbs
😂
So it's all your posts deserve. Full of stereotypes yourself, aren't ya

Brendahollowayreconsider · 05/08/2025 10:02

skymagentatwo · 05/08/2025 09:56

So bright spark, explain to all us neanderthals what these abhorrent views are exactly?

I was on the fringe's of the extreme right in the 90s think along the lines of BNP/C18 ideology.
I couldn't type what my opinions were as they'd be classed as hate crime.Now I wised up years ago but those opinion's are still held by many that populate the far right.

BIossomtoes · 05/08/2025 10:02

skymagentatwo · 05/08/2025 10:00

So that would be a no then, you cannot. As usual the empty vessel makes the most noise.

Sure does. How many times have you posted on this thread?

skymagentatwo · 05/08/2025 10:02

FreezeDriedStrawberries · 05/08/2025 10:01

Where have I even said anything like that?!
You're the one wittering on about "woke" and bizarrely going on about oat milk latte's and middle class suburbs
😂
So it's all your posts deserve. Full of stereotypes yourself, aren't ya

Look you want a bingo card or not 😂

skymagentatwo · 05/08/2025 10:04

BIossomtoes · 05/08/2025 10:02

Sure does. How many times have you posted on this thread?

What does how many times have i posted on this thread mean? Are you suggesting i owe you some sort of liberal left tax or fee or some thing? 😂

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 05/08/2025 10:04

There's a hotel not far from where I live that has been used to house asylum seekers for the last few years. Up until recently it's been families but some single men have now been housed there. Women and children living at the hotel have been assaulted so guess what the plan is - move the families out and house all single men there.

Why should the families suffer? Why should the local residents have to put up with these men who clearly have no respect for anyone, especially women and girls? Thankfully the local MP and council are doing what they can to oppose the change but I'm not optimistic

Quellycat · 05/08/2025 10:05

Nohqters · 04/08/2025 22:02

You just have to look at the US right now to see fascism in full swing.

…. America isn’t deporting based on race, or religion, or national origin, nor sexual orientation.

You are misinformed.

America is deporting people who are not legally in America.

Wherever you are from, would you expect to stay indefinitely in another country when you have not got a visa, or where you have committed crimes? What nation has a policy that allows this?

Wake up and please educate self on facism and United States Immigration policy. Stop being an uninformed & emotional.

Many nations take their borders and national security seriously. It’s not facism.

skymagentatwo · 05/08/2025 10:05

Brendahollowayreconsider · 05/08/2025 10:02

I was on the fringe's of the extreme right in the 90s think along the lines of BNP/C18 ideology.
I couldn't type what my opinions were as they'd be classed as hate crime.Now I wised up years ago but those opinion's are still held by many that populate the far right.

Sorry i was not asking you, but your post to me does not fit the definition of explain though!

User32459 · 05/08/2025 10:06

MincePiesAndStilton · 04/08/2025 22:34

I agree entirely. And what’s most terrifying, is the sane and sensible people getting caught up in it. However, there are some bad decisions being made which are playing into the hands of these people.

Because sane and sensible people are calling out nonsensical policies.

Andbegin · 05/08/2025 10:07

History repeats because human nature is what it is.
The vitriol towards others is as strong on the anti fascist/ remainers / pro refugee side as the other.
Currently the UK is seeing price rises and a lack of affordable housing. Combined with a influx from countries that have been unable to sort themselves out for decades.
What do you expect?

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