Do you believe there will be a civil war?

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I’ve been thinking about this a lot lately and I wonder if others feel the same. With everything going on, from the arrival of illegal migrants in small boats to a government that seems powerless, and with Farage gaining popularity because people are fed up, it feels like tension is rising across the country.

People are frustrated. You try to raise concerns and are instantly labelled a racist or bigot, even when your worries are about integration, safety, and national identity, not race. It feels like any honest conversation is being shut down.

There are parts of the UK where people who were born and raised here no longer feel at home. In some areas, if you are not part of the dominant local community, you can feel completely out of place or even unsafe walking alone at night. That is not right in your own country.

It is not just about people coming from Muslim-majority countries or those arriving illegally. There are also large numbers of Eastern Europeans, including Bulgarians, Romanians, and Russians. Many work hard and contribute, but there are also communities forming where people keep to themselves, speak no English, and make no effort to integrate. Some of these areas are experiencing rising antisocial behaviour, crime, and a breakdown of community life.

You can find videos online showing the state of some of these areas, with rubbish piling up, people ignoring the rules, and no sign of enforcement. It looks lawless, and it often is. But speaking about it honestly is considered of limits.

I live next to a Muslim family and they are wonderful people. Friendly, respectful, hardworking. So this is not about judging individuals. This is about a wider pattern where people are arriving, not integrating, and changing the fabric of our country in ways no one voted for.

We are a Christian country with our own traditions, values, and way of life. Why is it seen as wrong to want to preserve that? If we moved to Saudi Arabia, Bulgaria, or Russia, we would be expected to adapt to their culture. So why is it unacceptable to ask the same here?

The anger and division in this country are growing. I do not want unrest or conflict, but I cannot ignore what feels like a serious shift. When ordinary people feel ignored for too long, things eventually boil over.

Is anyone else feeling this? Or are we just not allowed to talk about it anymore?

That won't get MNHQ attention. Maybe post a thread in site stuff?

Not really. Op does, though.

I think they will start losing a lot of users and be left with just these shite threads night after night.

Maybe it’s worth living amongst terrible white people and their bad food for our glorious UK weather?

Going back to the original question : who on earth would be on the two sides of this civil war? Immigrants vs those with Saxon bloodlines? Or maybe Norman bloodlines?
or white people vs everyone else? Humanitarians vs racists? Left vs right, with those in the middle hiding in bunkers

Yes I was wondering this too

Would it be… white English people going around with pitch forks door to door, and anyone not looking completely white English, they get bashed up, no matter how long they’d been here?

Maybe they’d get asked to clutch a can of Stella and sing engerlaaand engeraand or something. Those who fail get their heads stoved in perhaps.

Is it that kind of civil war?

I should @AWitchCalledMeg. My internet history would have your hair standing on end. Delia, Nigella, James Martin - the things I’ve learned! I’ll be dragged away from my seasoning cupboard kicking and screaming. I’ll rid this country of chicken nuggets and biege food, so help me Jamie Oliver.

It's actually an evolution that took place between 50 and 10,000 years ago.

It's a genetic difference in the ability to process vitamin D, natural selection over thousands of years in limited sunlight caused those with the vitamin D processing gene to survive in the north.

This genetic difference hasn't gone away and is the underlying cause of different health conditions.

Again - why is skin colour so important to you?

Think I'll just stick to trying to enjoy my life, I'm not up for any sort of war thanks.

Well as an awful woke lefty who should be on a prevent watch list for hating er, chicken nuggets @Dymaxion I’m going to say a nice selection of punchy salads, mezze type plates for days when it’s all go go go and there’s no time for a sit down meal and some nice tofu dishes for protein on days when I have to arm wrestle the patriots in the battle of Skegness.

Ah things were so much better when Friday night was Vesta night weren’t it. Although maybe that was the start of all of this and we nevva knew it - I mean what if the sneaky Vesta killed off the proppa English crispy pancake?

There's getting off your phone, and there's getting your head out of the sand. We are living in dangerous times.

Some do some don't, but of course they all should.

@NaicePeachJoker as a white people myself, I do find I am suited to the gloom and damp quite well, as it happens.

You know very well I wasn't using the word "only" in that context, nor was I trying to imply any of these crimes are acceptable.

What is this question in reference to?

😂I'm a 57 year old immigrant from the Netherlands. Nobody would know it, because I have zero accent and I even understand cricket. I'll join your task force.

My legs are also hefty.

I agree. The racist shite is dragging the site in to the gutter. It is a shame MNHQ can't seem to get a grip.

No, many of us are just sickened by the hate and racism babes

Maybe we should follow your suggestion and start a thread on Site Stuff.

The thing is though that lots of countries literally don’t take people or anywhere near the amount of people we do. So why is it that we are out of line for not being like yeah come on in to everyone but other countries are totally fine for it? So why, when we actually do invite a lot of immigrants coming from both illegal and legal routes compared to a lot of countries, are we all arseholes who oooh wouldn’t it be funny if we all got stuck needing asylum during a war?? Si

@MurdoMunro St Findus be with the days when boil in the bag meant white fish in white sauce that didn’t need teeth to eat it. Vesta was the beginning of the end.

I did eat a crispy pancake once - the inside was hotter than the face of the sun. I can’t even remember what flavour it was, just molten.

Actually OP, unlike some other previous posters, I don’t think you do need to take your tin hat off. Until yesterday, I thought the whole idea was totally ridiculous but in the last 24 hours, it transpires that two large hotels in the very rural area I live are being sold off to house illegal immigrants, 10 houses have been bought in the local town for the same purpose, and my cash strapped council are recruiting for a refugee resettlement officer. On top of that, anyone who listened to Jeremy Vine today on ID cards can hear how polarised the debate has become. I don’t think it is beyond the realms of possibility.

Seriously?? Off you go then. To 'elsewhere' in Utopia.