Do you believe there will be a civil war?

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I’ve been thinking about this a lot lately and I wonder if others feel the same. With everything going on, from the arrival of illegal migrants in small boats to a government that seems powerless, and with Farage gaining popularity because people are fed up, it feels like tension is rising across the country.

People are frustrated. You try to raise concerns and are instantly labelled a racist or bigot, even when your worries are about integration, safety, and national identity, not race. It feels like any honest conversation is being shut down.

There are parts of the UK where people who were born and raised here no longer feel at home. In some areas, if you are not part of the dominant local community, you can feel completely out of place or even unsafe walking alone at night. That is not right in your own country.

It is not just about people coming from Muslim-majority countries or those arriving illegally. There are also large numbers of Eastern Europeans, including Bulgarians, Romanians, and Russians. Many work hard and contribute, but there are also communities forming where people keep to themselves, speak no English, and make no effort to integrate. Some of these areas are experiencing rising antisocial behaviour, crime, and a breakdown of community life.

You can find videos online showing the state of some of these areas, with rubbish piling up, people ignoring the rules, and no sign of enforcement. It looks lawless, and it often is. But speaking about it honestly is considered of limits.

I live next to a Muslim family and they are wonderful people. Friendly, respectful, hardworking. So this is not about judging individuals. This is about a wider pattern where people are arriving, not integrating, and changing the fabric of our country in ways no one voted for.

We are a Christian country with our own traditions, values, and way of life. Why is it seen as wrong to want to preserve that? If we moved to Saudi Arabia, Bulgaria, or Russia, we would be expected to adapt to their culture. So why is it unacceptable to ask the same here?

The anger and division in this country are growing. I do not want unrest or conflict, but I cannot ignore what feels like a serious shift. When ordinary people feel ignored for too long, things eventually boil over.

Is anyone else feeling this? Or are we just not allowed to talk about it anymore?

If it wasn’t bollocks would you change your view?

I just don't believe you.

You have no idea about where I live. You’ve got me mixed up with the poster who asked the question originally. The question you are still deflecting.

Would you change your view if it was true?

For goodness sake, go back a few thousands years an all the inhabitants of the British isles were black

If there were signs like that it would be all over social media & front page news on some papers. They’d absolutely love to have photos of something like that, if it was true it would 100% be in the news

Nasrine, I am trying to do the EXACT opposite.

Please read my post again. I am demonstrating that only a tiny fraction of foreign nationals commit these crimes.

What makes it sound undesirable?

I love Streatham Hill btw! So many nice houses, Streatham common, some FANTASTIC schools. I don't live there btw - I live in a poorer part of London.

I suspect you're finding it a struggle to explain what it is specifically you hate about living in a multicultural area without saying something bigoted and racist. Just give it a go. What do you hate?

I think the wealth gap may be what would drive serious unrest in the future

The wealth gap is the underlying factor in all this.

But those with wealth own powerful media companies and lobby MPs to do their bidding. They wrap the country’s problems up in a smokescreen around immigration, and make off with the wealth as they pump their bullshit to the not so astute. And here we are.

@AWitchCalledMeg you might need someone to hold your hand when I tell you some of the things Britain did to indigenous people in their own lands, where their ancestors had lived for 1,000s of years, rooted in envy, avarice and wickedness.YOU expose YOURSELF more than you know.

What’s so nice about these threads is that the aphorism ‘projection is confession’ rings like a bell.

Have a think about why you are so afraid of people doing here what your ancestors did over there.

I’ve lived in a few different parts of the uk, including London, in the past ten years and this sounds so removed from ANYTHING I’ve experienced.
I’m sure there are places where immigration has become an issue but I’ve not seen it. it’s not as widespread as people are led to believe. All this utter nonsense about becoming ‘a minority in our own country’.

On another note, we can’t have a history of invading and plundering other countries, bragging about how great our country is, then not expecting immigrants to come along looking for a better life.

Oh yeah sorry, what is your question then? Why don’t I want to live next to 4 illegal migrant hostels and my kids be the only white kids at school?

Why DONT you want your kids to be the only white kids at the school? Genuine question

@AWitchCalledMeg

"Personally I think cheering on indigenous people being colonised and outnumbered in their native land, a place where their ancestors have resided for 1000s of years, is an ugly thing - rooted in envy, avarice and wickedness. You expose yourself more than you know."

I really suggest you do some reading. You obviously have zero understanding of the UK's colonial history - if you did, you'd be utterly embarrassed to try to make it analogous to modern immigration.

London, though has changed considerably over the past few decades. I'm not saying it's a good thing or a bad thing, but the demographic has rapidly changed.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_London#/media/File:London_ethnic_demographics_from_1961_to_2021.gif

So you can’t provide a source for any of your assertions, just as I thought.

would you change your mind if you realised what you were talking was baseless and without evidence; nonsense? lol.

geebeebies is that way——>

I’d say that’s the joy of London though. It’s like nowhere else.

Most Muslims name their first-born son Mohammed. The next most popular Muslim name in 2024 was Yusuf, at number 67. (Data)

In 2023 there were 4,661 Mohammeds born in the UK, out of 591,072 live births. I think the white race will survive this "dilution". 🙄

For girls, the only remotely Muslim names in the top 100 are Fatima, Layla, Maryam, and Zara, and I know non-Muslim women with all of those.

You mean you are too craven to say what we all know to be the truth, that it has changed for the worse. Immeasurably so.

I don't understand what you are trying to say. Perhaps this explains it to you?

The figures would mean that the conviction rate for foreign nationals is 5.75 per 100,000 of the population and 1.77 per 100,000 for the British population - a conviction rate which is 224% higher. In other words, foreign nationals are convicted for sexual assault on a female at a rate 2.24 times higher than the British population.

Hahaha. No. We Brits are way too lazy to actually fight a war. The benefits scroungers can just about make it out the house to Greggs. The London elite required paid help to even change a tyre or a lightbulb. No one in this country can be arsed to go to war. Now we can all agree on one thing, whatever your political side - let’s sit down, calm down and have another drink.

I assume Goodwin decided to portray any child with a foreign parent as non white British. So if you have an Irish parent for example.

he’s the same chap that thinks Sunak is less English than Angela Rayner. Or has less linkage. Also can’t recognise London.

No, that’s the image you later projected on to her. Nasrine’s post at 21.12 that you responded to by saying that you wouldn’t want to live in and then ‘sounds fucking awful’ talked of shops, mosques and churches, no mention of ‘illegal migrant hotels’, that’s a red herring you’ve slapped down there. Again. Deflecting

I've already expressed specific concerns in previous posts.

@NaicePeachJoker

"Why don’t I want to live next to 4 illegal migrant hostels and my kids be the only white kids at school?"

I think you mean 'asylum hostels'. I said there were two within walking distance of my home. One of them I've been in, one I haven't.

I'm not sure why you think I should be bothered by the existence of an asylum hostel? Other than maybe having loads of drunk white people gathering outside it threatening violence? Luckily there aren't enough thick drunk white people where I live to engage in this sort of mayhem, so there's no harassment of asylum seekers.

Also - I said my son was the only white (or white passing) boy in his class. Not in his school. No bother though - he was never bullied or excluded. I know it's hard for you to understand, but most young children aren't hateful towards other children who don't look the same as them. Or maybe that's not true in your family and friendship group, which maybe isn't a surprise given the sort of comments you've made on this thread.