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To want Elon Musk to stay the fuck out of U.K. politics?

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Birdscratch · 03/01/2025 11:19

And German politics and just focus on the President he’s already paid for and turning X into a toxic wasteland.

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ContactNightmare · 05/01/2025 18:17

Therearentenoughnamesleft · 05/01/2025 18:10

https://www.oxfordhealth.nhs.uk/ips/ketamine-trd/

A quick Google says otherwise.

If he's using it recreationally then views are obviously different to medical use.

It’s not licensed for depression. I can’t walk into a doctor and ask for ketamine. Largely because it is addictive and can make you incontinent. It’s a class B drug.

In the States you can get it on IV for severe depression.

2dogsandabudgie · 05/01/2025 18:19

ContactNightmare · 05/01/2025 18:17

It’s not licensed for depression. I can’t walk into a doctor and ask for ketamine. Largely because it is addictive and can make you incontinent. It’s a class B drug.

In the States you can get it on IV for severe depression.

Is it licensed in the US for depression? I read that Musk took it in a very small prescribed quantity for depression.

CandlesClementines · 05/01/2025 18:25

@PandoraSox because it's a chat forum and I'm...ummm chatting! It's a question broached.

I'm responding.

what he's highlighting is more important then the conduit.

RafaistheKingofClay · 05/01/2025 18:27

Efacsen · 05/01/2025 16:04

4chan

😂

RafaistheKingofClay · 05/01/2025 18:29

BIossomtoes · 05/01/2025 17:13

I’m not holding my breath. He’ll be offering Badenoch millions now.

He’s just thrown Badenoch under a bus by suggesting she can be the one to get Tommy freed. She’s not going to be able to do any media without having to answer that question now.

ilovesooty · 05/01/2025 18:31

PandoraSox · 05/01/2025 17:46

This thread is about Musk's influence on UK politics. He has suddenly turned on Farage so discussing it here does not detract from discussions elsewhere on MN about the terrible crimes of the grooming gangs and other abusers.

You need to stop accusing other posters on this thread of about not caring about CSE and VAWG.

Edited

I think anyone who accuses those critical of Musk of not caring about the abused girls is utterly reprehensible. To level that accusation at posters who believe Musk doesn't actually have highlighting the abuse as his primary motive is appalling.

PandoraSox · 05/01/2025 18:31

CandlesClementines · 05/01/2025 18:25

@PandoraSox because it's a chat forum and I'm...ummm chatting! It's a question broached.

I'm responding.

what he's highlighting is more important then the conduit.

I know, but this thread is about Musk interfering with UK politics rather than specifically about the horrors of the grooming gangs. That is why I wondered why you bothered posting if you don't care about him. but all's fair in love and internet forums I guess.

Back on topic, Farage must be furious. This morning he was singing Musk's praises to LK. This afternoon he is Musk's latest target.

I wonder if Musk's interference will cause some issues within Reform. But the upshot is what Farage says goes. They can't have a vote of no confidence in him.

DuncinToffee · 05/01/2025 18:32

CandlesClementines · 05/01/2025 18:25

@PandoraSox because it's a chat forum and I'm...ummm chatting! It's a question broached.

I'm responding.

what he's highlighting is more important then the conduit.

Even when the bloke he wants freeing could have helped guilty men walk free?

SuzieNine · 05/01/2025 18:32

Paul2023 · 05/01/2025 17:14

I don’t think that matters too
much, X are much bigger and I doubt those other site you mentioned will ever have the platform that X does.

People said the same about MySpace.

PandoraSox · 05/01/2025 18:34

RafaistheKingofClay · 05/01/2025 18:29

He’s just thrown Badenoch under a bus by suggesting she can be the one to get Tommy freed. She’s not going to be able to do any media without having to answer that question now.

Oh my god. It just gets better.

Musk must be really enjoying himself. He waits for Farage and Badenoch to butter him up and then chucks a bucket of shit over them.

DuncinToffee · 05/01/2025 18:38

2dogsandabudgie · 05/01/2025 18:19

Is it licensed in the US for depression? I read that Musk took it in a very small prescribed quantity for depression.

Here is Musk talking about it

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/03/18/tech/elon-musk-ketamine-use-don-lemon-interview

Therearentenoughnamesleft · 05/01/2025 18:39

Musk is trying to line himself up as some kind of master puppeteer overseeing global politics. He's got the money to get the influence.

biscuitandcake · 05/01/2025 18:40

CandlesClementines · 05/01/2025 18:25

@PandoraSox because it's a chat forum and I'm...ummm chatting! It's a question broached.

I'm responding.

what he's highlighting is more important then the conduit.

No, because he is muddying the waters. I don't care if someone who cares about CSE is far to the right of me or far to the left of me - its possible for someone to have radically different political views and still care about this stuff. But Musk has been quite open about using Twitter to cause chaos/mischief/insult people/say untrue things. Its irritating when you are trying to talk about football and someone keeps derailing the convo by trying to cause fights/say shocking things etc for their amusement. Its much worse when its something really serious and someone is jumping around talking about "free X", "Put Y in prison", "election now", "I like Farage", "now I don't like Farage". Its about generating headlines and attention and the more time politicians (including ones I dislike like Farage) have to spend time answering questions about him, the less they have to be asked about grooming/putting the recommendations of the inquiry into practice. And any normal troll could be ignored, but because the UK needs to keep ties with the US and he is a big player in their politics UK politicians have to pay him attention.

PandoraSox · 05/01/2025 18:41

Ketamine killed poor Matthew Perry I think. It is not to be messed around with.

PandoraSox · 05/01/2025 18:42

@biscuitandcake you have nailed it. He is a troll with massive wealth and power.

CandlesClementines · 05/01/2025 18:43

Because pandora or whoever my response about musk and not caring for his opinion was in response to another poster saying pretty much the same thing and I was agreeing.

If I went info on electric cars or star link I'll certainly pay attention but since when did anyone credit him being an expert on who is right to lead or not lead or do this and that?

He's scattering everywhere and he's just happened to have hit on a huge scar in the UK and for that I'm greatful

Feelingathomenow · 05/01/2025 18:43

randomchap · 05/01/2025 15:20

The abuse had already been highlighted, and there was a big inquiry into child sex abuse in England and Wales (Scotland and NI have separate legal systems)

It doesn't need more highlighting, especially by a man who's using it to attack a government he doesn't like.

It needs the recommendations from the enquiry acting upon.

The report came out in 2022 and the government in power did nothing, the new government has said they will implement the recommendations.

If you were unaware of the inquiry/abuse before Musk got involved, then that's on you.

Oh no, it needs highlight again and again until it stops. Just because a person is happy that someone with international visibility has highlighted the child rape gangs who are still operating in the UK, it doesn’t mean that that person agrees with everything Musk says. Surely people understand this?

Surely everyone is happy about any discussion around how to get rid of these appalling gangs, surely we need to pursue every angle as to why this has been allowed to happen?

Yes there are aspects of Musk which aren’t desirable, some elements of what he does are very useful. An intelligent person looks at each separate aspect and is constantly weighing up the desirable and undesirable.

biscuitandcake · 05/01/2025 18:43

PandoraSox · 05/01/2025 18:34

Oh my god. It just gets better.

Musk must be really enjoying himself. He waits for Farage and Badenoch to butter him up and then chucks a bucket of shit over them.

Its chaos for the sake of chaos. If that amuses him then fine, whatever. But its fucking awful to hijack a conversation around child rape to do it. Its like calling someone a pedo and then arguing it was "just a silly insult." I believe him, but he thinks its a funny insult because he doesn't care. And he thinks its funny to watch people getting wound up about this issue because he doesn't care and its incapable of understanding the real reasons people are upset. He is a prick.

ObieJoyful · 05/01/2025 18:44

Who the fuck voted YABU??

CandlesClementines · 05/01/2025 18:44

@biscuitandcake far from muddying waters he's got everyone talking about this and that's all good thing.
I did lots of research at the time but I've learned so much more over the past two days.

PandoraSox · 05/01/2025 18:45

biscuitandcake · 05/01/2025 18:43

Its chaos for the sake of chaos. If that amuses him then fine, whatever. But its fucking awful to hijack a conversation around child rape to do it. Its like calling someone a pedo and then arguing it was "just a silly insult." I believe him, but he thinks its a funny insult because he doesn't care. And he thinks its funny to watch people getting wound up about this issue because he doesn't care and its incapable of understanding the real reasons people are upset. He is a prick.

Totally agree with you.

WilmaFlintstone1 · 05/01/2025 18:45

A few years back he accused cave rescuers of being paedophiles because they rejected his assistance. As they were likely to know much more about cave rescue than he did I noted him down as a prick. Nothing since has changed that opinion.

He’s a Bond villain and we need to send Pierce Branson (or Bond of choice) over to kick him up the arse.

What we should no be doing is allowing him to interfere in British justice to get Tommy Ten Names released.

Grooming gang members nearly walked free because of that tosser and dear Elon thinks he’s been a victim of a miscarriage of justice.

Bless!

RafaistheKingofClay · 05/01/2025 18:45

PandoraSox · 05/01/2025 18:34

Oh my god. It just gets better.

Musk must be really enjoying himself. He waits for Farage and Badenoch to butter him up and then chucks a bucket of shit over them.

Scratch that. I’m not sure that he actually has said that.

PandoraSox · 05/01/2025 18:48

RafaistheKingofClay · 05/01/2025 18:45

Scratch that. I’m not sure that he actually has said that.

OK. Has Badenoch ever said anything about Yaxley Lennon being in prison? If Musk seriously wants to back a party which supports YL's release, he will be hard pressed to find one.

CorbyTrouserPress · 05/01/2025 18:49

CandlesClementines · 05/01/2025 17:40

No I just don't really care what he thinks?
It's not law, he's just a rich man splurging stuff out.

His dad has just been on the news sm I supposed to care what he thinks now as well 😬

Considering his dad got his own step daughter (who he brought up from age 4) pregnant I bloody hope not!

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