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Are there any conspiracy theories you believe in?

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Errors · 22/12/2024 18:07

Inspired by another thread

I find conspiracy theories really interesting. I have never ‘believed’ any of them, more enjoy discussing them and how likely it seems that they could be true. I also think it’s more far fetched to believe that everything we have ever been told or ever will be told is the whole truth.

Are there any CTs you believe in? Lead me down a rabbit hole please!

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x2boys · 23/12/2024 09:06

pushchairprincess · 23/12/2024 08:29

The red haired gene is recessive - is it likely that both would be read haired and not have black hair like their 'mom' ? being redheaded suits that narrative. I do believe that they may be Harrys children, and maybe using MM's eggs - but do believe they came from surrigate births and should not be in the line of succession.
I feel truly sorry for these children growing up not being part of a family -however dysfunctional (arnt all families) knowing that they were kept from their families when they grow up will create a huge impact on those two.

Beatrice is red head are you suggesting Andrew is not her father
Or is only H&M,s kids you have a problem with.?

Luddite26 · 23/12/2024 09:06

Startingagainandagain · 23/12/2024 08:49

@Errors · Yesterday 18:42

'Whatsthepointhey · Yesterday 18:37
What happened then and why?
I’m not entirely certain but I believe Courtney Love had something to do with it. Wasn’t there a guy who was hired by her as a PI and he got suspicious and devoted his life to trying to prove she was behind it. He found scraps of paper where she had practiced his hand writing (presume to fake his suicide note) and plenty have said that with the amount of Heroin in his system and the gun that was used that it would have been impossible for him to have died by his own hand'

Kurt Cobain had a long history of depression.

He had already tried to commit suicide by swallowing pills when in Italy (and was taken to hospital on time thanks to Courtney).

He also had several relatives who had taken their own lives.

He was struggling with addiction, fame and physical health issues.

It is very sad but frankly not surprising that he ended his life.

There is a lot of misogyny against his wife at the root of this silly conspiracy theory...

And you are welcome to your opinion. 😊

DappledThings · 23/12/2024 09:06

And they think we didn't notice the constant moving of the goalposts.
I think most of us are sensible enough to understand that it was a rapidly changing situation with people having to make decisions about public health policy constantly with changing information. Did they always make the best decisions? Maybe not, that certainly is a matter of opinion. But the idea that there was a plan from the start to say "let's tell them it's three weeks then after 2.5 weeks we'll make it 8 weeks and then on day X we will mention masks then make a new policy about masks and see how far we can push it hee hee" is ludicrous.

Of course the regulations and time frames kept changing. So did the situation, numbers of cases, variants etc etc. It was always going to be changeable. That's not people involved in a nefarious conspiracy.

x2boys · 23/12/2024 09:10

DappledThings · 23/12/2024 09:06

And they think we didn't notice the constant moving of the goalposts.
I think most of us are sensible enough to understand that it was a rapidly changing situation with people having to make decisions about public health policy constantly with changing information. Did they always make the best decisions? Maybe not, that certainly is a matter of opinion. But the idea that there was a plan from the start to say "let's tell them it's three weeks then after 2.5 weeks we'll make it 8 weeks and then on day X we will mention masks then make a new policy about masks and see how far we can push it hee hee" is ludicrous.

Of course the regulations and time frames kept changing. So did the situation, numbers of cases, variants etc etc. It was always going to be changeable. That's not people involved in a nefarious conspiracy.

And they always said that restrictions would tighten and loosen depending on What the virus was doing.

Applesonthelawn · 23/12/2024 09:10

I think it's clear from the pictures when she wore the white sleeveless dress and she and Harry showed Archie to the press that she was a woman who had just given birth. Everything about the weight around her face and the whole post pregnancy look can't be faked. And why wouldn't she want to carry her own children anyway?

pushchairprincess · 23/12/2024 09:12

x2boys · 23/12/2024 09:06

Beatrice is red head are you suggesting Andrew is not her father
Or is only H&M,s kids you have a problem with.?

I have a problem with the deception not the children - Sarah Ferguson is a redhead obvs. So many questions/conspiracies over the pregnancies - and as Harry had his biological father a questionmark in the media - why would he not speak out over the surrogacy rumours ?

wastingtimeonhere · 23/12/2024 09:12

CrystalMud · 23/12/2024 08:54

I think you mean 'mudflood' 😂

😂 that's the one...

Corinthiana · 23/12/2024 09:12

Applesonthelawn · 23/12/2024 09:10

I think it's clear from the pictures when she wore the white sleeveless dress and she and Harry showed Archie to the press that she was a woman who had just given birth. Everything about the weight around her face and the whole post pregnancy look can't be faked. And why wouldn't she want to carry her own children anyway?

Yes, plus her whole face shape changed.

Corinthiana · 23/12/2024 09:13

pushchairprincess · 23/12/2024 09:12

I have a problem with the deception not the children - Sarah Ferguson is a redhead obvs. So many questions/conspiracies over the pregnancies - and as Harry had his biological father a questionmark in the media - why would he not speak out over the surrogacy rumours ?

He doesn't "speak out" on most things.

pushchairprincess · 23/12/2024 09:14

x2boys · 23/12/2024 09:03

You explain ?

How would a pregnant belly move from the middle to lower abdomen ?

Applesonthelawn · 23/12/2024 09:14

Also I know several mixed race couples whose children are redheads. I think it's more complicated than just "red is recessive" - it's about the combination.

I realise I've tried to shoot down the Harry's father, the kids aren't theirs, and she didn't carry her own kids theories all at once but honestly there cannot reasonably be any truth in those three at all, and I'm no fan of the royal family.
On the other hand, I always thought it was pretty likely about the Chinese lab.

AwfullyWeeBillyBigchin · 23/12/2024 09:19

spuddy4 · 23/12/2024 07:58

Doesn't matter who's in government because the civil servants all stay the same. MI5 etc are far more capable than any politician. You only have to look at Covid to see that the government didn't make the decisions the scientists and medical professionals did, and then there's the COBRA committee, the government probably makes hardly no decisions themselves because there's so many other people involved.

Actually, it was the government making the decisions. The scientists only advised them. And that was the problem. If the gov has actually followed the scientific guidance, things may well have been better. The gov, against the scientific advice, failed to introduce mitigating measures, locked down too late, and opened up to early.

People also take the changing scientific advice as a failure, when it is, in fact, the opposite. The advice changed as we learned more about the virus. As it should.

Isatis · 23/12/2024 09:19

The Covid jabs where a complete money making scam that have killed more than Covid, again not a conspiracy really as proven true.

Where has this been proven true, @Alwaysinamood? I look forward to you showing us all the statistics and scientific proofs.

Who on earth would need to make money out of Covid jabs, and how do you account for all those deaths and full covid and intensive care wards before they were invented and the fact that the figures dropped dramatically once they had been sufficiently administered for herd immunity? It's not as if drug companies are short of diseases to work on.

x2boys · 23/12/2024 09:20

pushchairprincess · 23/12/2024 09:12

I have a problem with the deception not the children - Sarah Ferguson is a redhead obvs. So many questions/conspiracies over the pregnancies - and as Harry had his biological father a questionmark in the media - why would he not speak out over the surrogacy rumours ?

Oh grow up you just don't like H&M and are now being nasty about two small children.

pushchairprincess · 23/12/2024 09:22

x2boys · 23/12/2024 09:20

Oh grow up you just don't like H&M and are now being nasty about two small children.

It's the deception - the topic of this thread🙄
Why can't H & M be clear about the children who are in the LOS ?

AwfullyWeeBillyBigchin · 23/12/2024 09:23

Ghgggggg · 23/12/2024 08:05

After having a Covid vaccine injury I absolutely hate the conspiracy theories around it. Also the other side that insist it was completely safe. There is a middle ground where some people had heart damage, blood clotting problems and nerve damage. We should be able to talk about it openly. I was hospitalized, my case fully investigated and diagnosed, then officially accepted as a vaccine injury. The reality is lost under the noise of the conspiracies and also the insistence it is completely safe (there are government payouts and autopsies that definitively show for some it was not).

Edited

This is what I've been saying. I'm sorry to hear that you genuinely suffered Ill effects. I can only imagine how frustrating it must be with people claiming every slightest thing is a vaccine injury.

Betchyaby · 23/12/2024 09:23

WEF agenda for globalisation. If you look up their published goals it's not so much of a conspiracy theory but more of a plan.

Climate change.

Vaccines being 'safe and effective'

TheKeatingFive · 23/12/2024 09:23

pushchairprincess · 23/12/2024 09:14

How would a pregnant belly move from the middle to lower abdomen ?

It's a photo. Nothing anything close to a conclusion could be drawn based on this. Probably just a trick of the light or how the material of the dress fell.

Of all the conspiracy theories, this has to be dumbest.

Isatis · 23/12/2024 09:24

pushchairprincess · 23/12/2024 07:25

Meghan Markles moonbump and Archie and Lillibet are Eugenies children for the photos. They used a surrogate

Why would she need to borrow children if they used a surrogate?

x2boys · 23/12/2024 09:25

pushchairprincess · 23/12/2024 09:22

It's the deception - the topic of this thread🙄
Why can't H & M be clear about the children who are in the LOS ?

They don't need to tell you anything and you wouldn't believe it anyway.

JudgeJ · 23/12/2024 09:25

LuluBlakey1 · 23/12/2024 08:38

Why do you love people so much who you don't know, will never know and who will never care a jot about you?

Isn't that the same as those who were hysterical when Elvis, Michael Jackson, James Dean and the bloke the other week died? They were not personally known to the majority.

deeahgwitch · 23/12/2024 09:26

I'd like to know was MM married twice before she married Harry.
I don't believe the surrogate stuff.

Diana may have been murdered.
The driver doesn't appear drunk to me in the video of them before they went on that fatal journey.
I feel he has been scapegoated.
Surely Diana's bodyguard would have noticed before they got in the car.

There is more to JFK's assassination.

Marilyn Monroe was murdered.

I think Pope John Paul the First was murdered.

I believe Covid inadvertently came from the lab in Wuhan.

Betchyaby · 23/12/2024 09:27

@deeahgwitch I think they released it! 😂

LeftoverTurkeyPie · 23/12/2024 09:27

I have another, but I haven’t read the last 14 pages so it could be a repeat.

There’s a theory that schools were developed to create compliant workers, and I believe that to be true. If you look at public sector workers (NHS and schools in particular) they tend to be the sort of people who follow orders and don’t particularly question anything, those who start to question the status quo are often discredited and struck off or become so jaded with the system that they leave.

Spoke to a retired dr recently who now believes that now he’s out of the NHS. He spoke about gender ideology within the NHS and how people in certain departments were scared to speak out as they would be disciplined for it, even when updating drug guidelines there are certain drugs that have to be monitored carefully in women and girls due to the catastrophic effects certain drugs can have on a foetus, but by all accounts caused huge ructions within the panels of doctors responsible for updating them who wanted to word the info leaflets in a gender neutral way so as not to offend a tiny part of the population No idea what the outcome was though.

Schools have arguably become unsafe places for many children, with reports of much higher numbers of SN and behavioural problems, and increasing numbers of parents withdrawing their children. Having talked to several ex teachers (interesting that many are amongst those withdrawing children) they feel they know what’s gone wrong and when it started, and left when they found they couldn’t fight against the speeding juggernaut, but there are plenty of teachers willingly following the guidelines and ignoring the impact on children.

Isatis · 23/12/2024 09:28

pushchairprincess · 23/12/2024 08:29

The red haired gene is recessive - is it likely that both would be read haired and not have black hair like their 'mom' ? being redheaded suits that narrative. I do believe that they may be Harrys children, and maybe using MM's eggs - but do believe they came from surrigate births and should not be in the line of succession.
I feel truly sorry for these children growing up not being part of a family -however dysfunctional (arnt all families) knowing that they were kept from their families when they grow up will create a huge impact on those two.

If they were Harry's children and MM's eggs, then they are fully biologically theirs and using a surrogate would make no difference to that fact. Nor would it make any difference to their hair colour.

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